Frontier Hero Siege 1.05

[Moderator]

Vengeancekael - [Contact]
Date: 2012/Jun/05 15:23:41

Comment: [Approved]
Updated and approved.

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Vengeancekael - [Contact]
Date: 2012/May/28 18:30:52

Reasons:
The disabled versions of custom icons are not imported.
Other:

Comment: [Rejected]

• Fix the icon positioning: View picture
• The tooltips are in-depth when learning, but become really short once learned
• "Summon Mastery" has an active icon
• "Soul Recover" says it'll heal all summoned units, but you have to select one summoned unit
• "Ninjato" and "Muramasa Blade" have missing disabled icon versions

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[sonofjay]

You might want to add a screenshot.

 

[LoneBee]

Screenshot Added, i hope i do it right

 

[sonofjay]

Dunno to others but I can't see the pictures.

 

[LoneBee]

Eh? But, i can see it on my screen, or.. Maybe it's just me

 

[sonofjay]

NVM, I can see the screenshots now.

The terrain is flat and empty. You might want to improve it,

 

[LoneBee]

Hmm, maybe on the next version, this one has not been approved, right?

 

[sonofjay]

Yeah so while the moderators are not moderating this.. IMPROVE IT NOW OR ELSE THEY WILL REJECT THIS IF ITS NOT ACHIEVE THE HIVE STANDARD!!!

 

[LoneBee]

You're right.. I've improved the terrain quality, is that enough? Have you tried the gameplay? Please tell me more about what is lacking.. Thanks

 

[sonofjay]

okay I'll try it out later.

 

[Setokaiva]

Well I tried it out, it's neat and simple but yeah still needs work. Here's a preliminary set of suggested fixes...

- Level one Spirit Wolves far too weak and could use an HP upgrade, they useless as it is.
- Up the regeneration rate of Heroes and Minions to about 3 so they don't have to constantly find a healer but can still easily die.
- Give periodic gold over time to Heroes so they can earn a little without needing to kill anything, good for getting those last few coins to complete an armor set.
- Increase base mana regeneration of all Heroes to at least 1.5 or 2 so they can comfortably use their spells without constantly running out of mana.
- Battle Mage needs fix; if he is supposed to fight in melee he needs to not die in the first few seconds. Lower his mana, increase his health to at least 600, change his model to the Spell Breaker and give him defensive wards and runic weapons instead of straight-up magic attacks, that is more for the pure mages. If you do not do this for him or if you leave these abilities to another hero, then please change the icon setup so his W ability is not located on the far right of his card, it's more confusing the way it is now.
- Enemy Cannon spawn is too weak, need large improvement in damage and give them hardened skin to weather some weak attack; this means the city defenders will have trouble stopping them on their own needing the heroes to do it... also give them a less underwhelming projectile art, the little spiky ball is kinda weaksauce.
- The first boss, Gorth the Forth Hell General is misnamed because the event says he is the First Hell General, also he is far too weak I saw the city defenders take him down alone without me so much as lifting a finger to stop him.
- It makes absolutely NO sense to have the bosses spawn in the middle of the city right in the range of your inner towers which can pour damage on him, have them spawn in the middle lane instead.
- The Solar Knight's Crimson Heart ability gives FAR, FAR too little HP regen to be worth sinking points into, his Solar Impulse ability is using the wrong effect; doesn't make sense to have an ability that uses solar or fire power to use a pillar of rock to deal damage.

 

[LoneBee]

Well I tried it out, it's neat and simple but yeah still needs work. Here's a preliminary set of suggested fixes...

- Level one Spirit Wolves far too weak and could use an HP upgrade, they useless as it is.
- Up the regeneration rate of Heroes and Minions to about 3 so they don't have to constantly find a healer but can still easily die.
- Give periodic gold over time to Heroes so they can earn a little without needing to kill anything, good for getting those last few coins to complete an armor set.
- Increase base mana regeneration of all Heroes to at least 1.5 or 2 so they can comfortably use their spells without constantly running out of mana.
- Battle Mage needs fix; if he is supposed to fight in melee he needs to not die in the first few seconds. Lower his mana, increase his health to at least 600, change his model to the Spell Breaker and give him defensive wards and runic weapons instead of straight-up magic attacks, that is more for the pure mages. If you do not do this for him or if you leave these abilities to another hero, then please change the icon setup so his W ability is not located on the far right of his card, it's more confusing the way it is now.
- Enemy Cannon spawn is too weak, need large improvement in damage and give them hardened skin to weather some weak attack; this means the city defenders will have trouble stopping them on their own needing the heroes to do it... also give them a less underwhelming projectile art, the little spiky ball is kinda weaksauce.
- The first boss, Gorth the Forth Hell General is misnamed because the event says he is the First Hell General, also he is far too weak I saw the city defenders take him down alone without me so much as lifting a finger to stop him.
- It makes absolutely NO sense to have the bosses spawn in the middle of the city right in the range of your inner towers which can pour damage on him, have them spawn in the middle lane instead.
- The Solar Knight's Crimson Heart ability gives FAR, FAR too little HP regen to be worth sinking points into, his Solar Impulse ability is using the wrong effect; doesn't make sense to have an ability that uses solar or fire power to use a pillar of rock to deal damage.

Thanks for review, well:
-First, i think you're right, I will fixed them as you suggested
-Lv 1 wolf is weak, but its damage isn't too bad, so i think i'll just increases its HP
-Solar impulse, i think the only think that wrong is the skill name, i'll change it
-battle mage, uh.. I think i won't change the model, but about armor spell, or runic weapon, and about the HP and MP, that's a good idea, i'll change the starter stats, maybe greater STR and less INT

Well.. maybe it'll take some time. Also, i'll add more heroes too, please give me your review after I updated to next version

EDIT: I've updated

 

[Vengeancekael]

Still not approvable, you've always forgotten to import "DISBTN..." of a custom icon. Contact me again later.

 

[ToPsYoNe]

"Version 1.03
-Icons Placement Fixed
-Some Skills Explaination Fixed
Version 1.03b
-Icons Malfunctions Fixed"

The only thing that you has make a version 1.03b is for update some icons ?

i can see the 1.03c :
Version 1.03c
- Add 1 doodad for a better gameplay
im joking, i will try your map

 

[Schamanu]

You should add a description of how wood is earned in the quests section (F9). I figured you get it over time or maybe every 10, 15 or so kills, clarification would be good. I played 2 heroes, and for the Dwarven Desperado i noticed that the ultimate is rather week, it does the same dmg as the first skill (150dmg) but i think in a lower radius and at a lower rate and with higher mana costs, maybe u want to increase the damage of the ultimate (you might increase the cooldown, mana cost etc.).

All in all its still a rather simple (i.e. not as elaborate as others) Hero def (not ment to sound negative) but its entertaining. Good job.

 

[LoneBee]

You should add a description of how wood is earned in the quests section (F9).

Good Idea

and for the Dwarven Desperado i noticed that the ultimate is rather week, it does the same dmg as the first skill (150dmg) but i think in a lower radius and at a lower rate and with higher mana costs, maybe u want to increase the damage of the ultimate (you might increase the cooldown, mana cost etc.).

I think i will increased the damages and radius a bit

The only thing that you has make a version 1.03b is for update some icons ?

lol, well, about that, This map was once rejected because that icons problem

 

[nhammen]

Some suggestions for next version:
1- Make the bosses more dificult for each player that enter in game current dificulty perfect for solo, After each boss is defeated increase armor and dmg of mobs
2- Maybe some recipes that gives you stats
3- I would like to have some kind of eventto earn some extra money
4- And after the final wave destroy the portals no more creeps easy to max out with money

 

[sonofjay]

Nice to see this map get approved. Good job mate, +rep

 

[LoneBee]

Some suggestions for next version:
1- Make the bosses more dificult for each player that enter in game current dificulty perfect for solo, After each boss is defeated increase armor and dmg of mobs
2- Maybe some recipes that gives you stats
t with money

Two of them will be added at next update

3- I would like to have some kind of eventto earn some extra money

Hmm.. It will take some times to make it, but i'll try

4- And after the final wave destroy the portals no more creeps easy to max out with money

About this, maybe it'll make the Stone of Life left unharmed, but i'll think about that

Nice to see this map get approved. Good job mate, +rep

Thanks

 

[LoneBee]

UPDATED, its now have a major changes from before, but i haven't tested it on multiplayer yet.. So let me know if there is any bugs or errors

 

[Revis]

good map but the heroes were not lively

 

[Schamanu]

tested the latest version in singleplayer, couldnt find any bugs, but you could consider to make it possible to drop the "Ankh of ressurection", i didnt need the ankh and in mid game i really needed the inventory slot, so i had to run into masses of creeps and stop attacking them to get killed just to get rid of the 2 ankhs, while they are really helpful for the beginning, at some point in time you just dont need them anymore.

 

[LoneBee]

good map but the heroes were not lively

Really? Then give me your suggestions, and I would think and improve it into more better

tested the latest version in singleplayer, couldnt find any bugs, but you could consider to make it possible to drop the "Ankh of ressurection", i didnt need the ankh and in mid game i really needed the inventory slot, so i had to run into masses of creeps and stop attacking them to get killed just to get rid of the 2 ankhs, while they are really helpful for the beginning, at some point in time you just dont need them anymore.

Hmm... Well, thanks for that useful info, i'll definitely change it in the next update

 

[Almia]

Its Artifacts

 

[LoneBee]

Another Update: See Changelog
Haven't tested it in multiplayer, and it seems it doesn't have any bugs and errors..
But maybe if you find it, please let me know..

 

[StaticMan]

Played it on solo multi, and have a few comments:

1. I liked the idea of fighting the final boss in a separate area. Basically it gives the players the choice of either leaving the base unguarded and chasing after the boss or staying in the base to protect it from the constantly spawning creeps even after the boss runs away. The creeps can constantly put pressure on the base, and the players will be forced to either split up or abandon the base entirely in order to go full force against the boss. However, the creeps are easy enough to dispatch once your hero attains a certain level, and the cpu hero who'll eventually aid you makes it far too easy to defend and farm gold and lumber to buy better items and upgrades, and to eventually outfit your cpu ally with items.

2. Speaking of the cpu hero, he really makes the game easier once you get him to aid you in the defense. However, I noticed some strange things that he does in the game:
- when he's too far away from the base, like very near the sides of the map, he just stands where he killed the last creep and rarely comes back to the base unless he either dies or completely makes it to one of the three portals. Funny thing is, once he gets to the level where it's most unlikely that he'll die from the creeps, he sometimes he gets stuck at one side of the map, camping and slaughtering the creeps that pass by him, then going back to the edge.
- and when he does make it to one of the portals and decides to come back to the base, he always ends up selling the first item he has in his inventory. Kinda made me both sad and mad to see him first sell the +150 damage orb, followed by the serathil and vamp medal i made especially for him lol.

And a few suggestions:

1. You could make the creeps stats scale up after each wave, especially after the boss runs away, like for example, giving them a minor damage/armor/life increase after every wave to make things harder for players who do choose to "fatten up" before going for the boss.

2. Make the cpu hero return to his post infront of the stone when he's too far away from it. Or remove him entirely and plunge all of us players in a really challenging game (frankly, having him defend the base after he's been outfitted with damage + lifedrain + atkspd items makes the game wayyy too easy lol).

3. Perhaps you could make the units generated by the town's portal move a bit forward infront of the stone instead of crowding behind it. They usually end up blocking the most direct path from the recipe guy to the shops, and together with the towers, they end up forcing players to circle around them. Not good when being pressured by attacking vampires supported by bannermen while trying to make an item that requires running back and forth from the blacksmith/artifact shop to the recipe guy. Or, you could move the shops to the extreme left/right of the base so anyone who wishes to spend some time away from combat in order to do some item combining may be able to do so with minimal disturbance and collision with other units.

4. So far I have only tried one hero (the Arcane Maiden) but I find it weird that her ultimate, Waking the Fallen, somehow changes its name to "Air Strike" once you've learned it. Maybe you can fix this bug in the next update?

Overall a good game, one that I definitely enjoyed, even on solo.

 

[LoneBee]

1.Generally, the big problems are about the allies movement, am I right? Well, I realized some of AI Allies movement that kinda stuck in one place, but i still try about how to fix it.. So, for the time being, please make use of the command system that i already made there, you can see F9 and then check the command system info section there for further information..
2.About the difficulty, i've made it easier when you play solo, but the more players join, the more difficult the game will be.. I've once tried to make the game a bit hard, but it become too hard and the game become imbalance (you'll be surrounded by enemies and too easy to die).. But i'll try to make the game more balanced so it'll not be too easy nor hard..

you could move the shops to the extreme left/right of the base so anyone who wishes to spend some time away from combat in order to do some item combining may be able to do so with minimal disturbance and collision with other units.

Nice idea, I'll try it

but I find it weird that her ultimate, Waking the Fallen, somehow changes its name to "Air Strike" once you've learned it. Maybe you can fix this bug in the next update?

My apologies, i'll definitely fix it in the next update..

I appreciate your comments and suggestions, Sir. Thank you very much.

 

[Daredeamon]

You have a shop titled: Artefacts.

I couldn't help but urge myself to tell you... It's spelled "Artifacts"

Nice map though;

 

[LoneBee]

Its Artifacts

He already said it but i still forgot
I'll change it in the next update, lol thanks

 

[andre5913]

I'd said its a lot of fun.However i'd like to said.
1.As many have commented the enemy creeps should grow stronger.I'd suggest they'd grow stronger when the final boss rans away , so that attemping to get fed a lot before the boss be harder, however this should also came with an slowly increasing bounty for kill
2.They are still some icons screwed up , the lunar knight passive is iconless (green) when learned but has icon before learning.Arcane Maiden ultimate is named Air strike upon learn
3.The AI hero needs some changes , he sells the items you give him/her and if (s)he cans he'll block the midde portal.It would be smart to make him/her stay at the base and going up to the middle of the map
4.Some heroes description is a bit long and people dont bother to read , finishing with and unplesant hero , and some descriptions fail to accuratly said if the hero is support , tank ,mage , killer...
5.While i dont find any hero extremely poweful i do found some too weak , as both summoners.I suggest to lower cooldowns
6.Sightly increase the hp regeneracion early game , having to return to the stone constanly can be distruptive.The same for mana in agility and strength heroes
7.I would be nice to be able to buy towers back(But they should be expensive) I could also be viable to improve the max hitpoints of the towers and their attack.
8.They bosses hit too hard and have weak and few spells.I suggest to weaken their attack and improve their spells , for example , the final boss barely summons weak infernals , but beats the crap out of you with attacks.This is true for all bosses but the second one , who transforms into bats that are annoying and damagefull
9.The final boss and the lunar knight are hard to select

 

[TheLol156]

I'd said its a lot of fun.However i'd like to said.
1.As many have commented the enemy creeps should grow stronger.I'd suggest they'd grow stronger when the final boss rans away , so that attemping to get fed a lot before the boss be harder, however this should also came with an slowly increasing bounty for kill
2.They are still some icons screwed up , the lunar knight passive is iconless (green) when learned but has icon before learning.Arcane Maiden ultimate is named Air strike upon learn
3.The AI hero needs some changes , he sells the items you give him/her and if (s)he cans he'll block the midde portal.It would be smart to make him/her stay at the base and going up to the middle of the map
4.Some heroes description is a bit long and people dont bother to read , finishing with and unplesant hero , and some descriptions fail to accuratly said if the hero is support , tank ,mage , killer...
5.While i dont find any hero extremely poweful i do found some too weak , as both summoners.I suggest to lower cooldowns
6.Sightly increase the hp regeneracion early game , having to return to the stone constanly can be distruptive.The same for mana in agility and strength heroes
7.I would be nice to be able to buy towers back(But they should be expensive) I could also be viable to improve the max hitpoints of the towers and their attack.
8.They bosses hit too hard and have weak and few spells.I suggest to weaken their attack and improve their spells , for example , the final boss barely summons weak infernals , but beats the crap out of you with attacks.This is true for all bosses but the second one , who transforms into bats that are annoying and damagefull
9.The final boss and the lunar knight are hard to select

I have to agree,This is VERY annoying and buggy,atleast its still approved,I picked up another problem once as well.The A.I hero didnt spawn,is there an explanation for this?(im not telling andre5913 to reply,im asking LoneBee to.)

 

[LoneBee]

Guys, I've came back after quite some years.
However, I did plan to discontinue this project years ago. So, I just came here a bit to check up my map.
I can't even imagine my map has been downloaded (and hopefully enjoyed) by thousands of players, although w3 players are
less likely foundable now, but regardless I'd like to say my thanks to all of you guys! I remembered that this project was the very first step I took into the world of computers, albeit impulsively and vaguely (I think I was in junior high that time). Making this project alone (with online resources from awesome authors) has been a meaningful experience to me. I'm sorry to all of those (if there were any) who waited for an update in vain. Know that I still strive in developing something liveful like games, novels (although as a hobby for now) and if any of you are interested in contacting me, maybe to share aspirations, asking for a joint project, or maybe interested on taking over this map? haha.. feel free to contact me on email: [email protected]

 

[deepstrasz]

3/5.
Everything happens so fast.
I don't think the difficulty is adjusted depending on the number of players.
Could use more item variety.