Fortress of Pain - WIP

[Chaos]

I gonna post here my WIP's for the Fortress Challenge ... positive as negative critics are welcomed, and I started Terraining a few days ago

Chaos

 

[Karzvitch]

Very nice job, but add some units (incase you were done)

 

[operator]

Yes add some units

 

[Chaos]

Oh come on ... I am not rdy yet ... of course, but UNITS is the last thing to do ...
Just some units, so I get a picture of the whole thing, they will be removed or changed later on ...

Chaos

 

[Xarwin]

Wow man, impressive job!
I'm getting the idea to vote for this one if I can ..

 

[Chaos]

Wow man, impressive job!
I'm getting the idea to vote for this one if I can ..

You can ... I will finish it next week ... I hope I can win this Contest, so do the others

Chaos

 

[Rui]

Looks a bit too... plain? Variate the tile a bit, maybe?

 

[Dr Super Good]

The terane looks too blocky especialy in screenshot 5 so perhaps line it with doodads or makes some towers along the wall (good looking towers).

The last 2 screenshots feature some kind of mining opperation. . .
The rails and carts look very good in it but the carts need to be higher up since it looks like they are running on the rail by their axles and on on the wheles.

Otherwise looks very good.

 

[Deep Sea Kraken]

Its good -- for a terrain, but it looks less like a fortress to me. it looks like some of the wc3 campaign lvl that are in outland.

 

[Rui]

To me it looked like the first interlude of the RoC Undead Campaign, changed here and there. I still think the ground textures should varie a bit, though. I don't like it for some reason, I think Dungeon tileset it's just not my style.

 

[Chaos]

I'm on it ... and somehow I get the feeling that you think this was not made by me ... This is 100% made by my own ...
... however ... I'll submit the map for the contest ... there you'll see it ... and yes I'm a beginner terrainer and I gonna fix your suggestions ... as good as I can ... anything else, cause I know there is not much to see in these ones ...

Chaos

 

[Karzvitch]

Err, my fav is the first one

 

[Rui]

I didn't say it wasn't made by you. I simply said it reminded me of the RoC UD Campaign interlude of the Dreadlord reunion.

Well, the first one is ok. The sky just blesses it all.

 

[Chaos]

Nearly Finished

Chaos

 

[Rui]

Those look better. The huntress breathing fire is funny.

 

[Xarwin]

More awesome then before, you will have my vote for sure.

 

[Chaos]

More awesome then before, you will have my vote for sure.

Thanks ... I do my best ...

Chaos

 

[Herio-san]

Looks pretty nice. I see you made use of the raise and lower trick

 

[demonsofdante]

Evil.....blizzard....cliffs..... My only real problem with it.

You can make better looking and more natural cliffs by editting a few parameters in the Warcraft 3 folder.


Open up the Warcraft 3 folder and open the UI folder. Under Misc data (It should be there already, its a text document) do a search for terrain. Look around that area for something with the words
// Maximum slope in degrees, (86+ will disable slope limits)


and set MaxSlope for any number greater than 86. This is will allow you to do immensly steep cliffs with the raise and lower terrain tool and avoid the disgusting blizzard cliffs.

If you do not have the file, google Warcraft 3 world edit max slope or something and you should be able to find the text file (I cant seem to upload anything on this site =/)

 

[Chaos]

Evil.....blizzard....cliffs..... My only real problem with it.

You can make better looking and more natural cliffs by editting a few parameters in the Warcraft 3 folder.


Open up the Warcraft 3 folder and open the UI folder. Under Misc data (It should be there already, its a text document) do a search for terrain. Look around that area for something with the words
// Maximum slope in degrees, (86+ will disable slope limits)


and set MaxSlope for any number greater than 86. This is will allow you to do immensly steep cliffs with the raise and lower terrain tool and avoid the disgusting blizzard cliffs.

If you do not have the file, google Warcraft 3 world edit max slope or something and you should be able to find the text file (I cant seem to upload anything on this site =/)

Would be nice if you explain me this later on, a bit more detailed, cause I do not know what you everything stands for ...

Chaos

 

[demonsofdante]

well a lot of terrainers abandon blizzards gaudy looking cliffs for ones they feel are more natural and much less restricting. These arent exactly cliffs, but extreme elevations of terrain with a much steeper slope.


*****I cannot seem to upload the text file, however if you email me at [email protected] or IM me on Facelessgreed, ill be happy to send it to you (Or someone else can upload it)****


With this file you can raise the terrain to extreme heights and by using the plateau tool on the cliff. This will create the slope using only one medium gridspace. This can then be smoothed using the smooth tool to create a more well rounded cliff.


Some examples of the differences:

Shallow water:



Steep Cliffs/Regular Cliffs



Waterfall w/ Blizzard cliffs:


Waterfall w/ Steep cliffs:

I kind of went nuts on the last one. lol



When you do get the file (And im sure theres other places you can find it), open up your Warcraft 3 folder. (Should be something like C:\Program Files\Warcraft III.

After opening that folder, make a new folder titled UI. This is the folder you place the text file in.


Again i apologize for not uploading it but Hive Workshop seems to hate my computer.

 

[2-P]

Attached the file. Don't forget to place it in the "UI" folder.

 

[GoldenRam]

A quick question, lets say you make a map with the maximum slope tweaked. If someone else were to dl it and play it, would the large slopes be there? Or would their own settings restrict them from seeing these edits?

 

[2-P]

Works for the others as well.

 

[demonsofdante]

Yep they show up fine. However if someone tries to edit it and does not have the misc.txt file, it will simply reset (very confusing when i first started looking at terrains)



Anyone else thinking i should just make the tutorial and petition for it to get stickied?

(I cant upload the file anyways, so if someone else wants to make the thread w/ what i put thats fine)

 

[Rui]

Very good examples. I usually avoid using the cliffs unless really necessary. And even after using them, I always do my best to find ways around to exchange them.

 

[HappyTauren]

lol, i NEVER use cliffs, there isnt any in my terrains

 

[Herio-san]

I use plateau, but never cliffs. lol wow this thread has gotten really off track. haha