Exodus: The Violet Gate 2.05.1

[Nyctaeus]

is the bug where heroes who use the skill shockwave causing the game to stutter fixed after chapter 1 any hero who has the skill shockwave every time its used would cause the game to stutter

Cause is unknown so far. It's vanilla skill with just fourth level that we added, so we have no idea what's causing da lag. We're still investigating this one.

 

[Footman16]

Cause is unknown so far. It's vanilla skill with just fourth level that we added, so we have no idea what's causing da lag. We're still investigating this one.

It's the terrain deformation most likely, replace it with either a spell based on carrion wave or crushing wave which have same effect but no terrain deformation.

 

[Jarl Bob]

Hi
chapter eight
is there a way to move the convoys or is it a bug ->>?
I tried to clean the entire map but still not working.

 

[HuanJuan]

"Once we shall return".

Spoiler: SPOILER

Spoiler: SPOILER

I was hope for a nice good ending. Sadly, no. No one can rest peacefully now.

 

[Macielos]

Hi
chapter eight
is there a way to move the convoys or is it a bug ->>?
I tried to clean the entire map but still not working.

A bug unfortunately. For now just use "allyourbasearebelongtous" to advance to the next mission.

 

[夜间精灵]

Hello author, I am a Warcraft player from China, your work is very good, can I translate your work?

 

[Mamal]

Hey guys
Great job on this campaign, i really had a great time playing it,the missions aren't too long and boring.the dialogs and custom voices are pretty good and funny and the story is great.really liked the idea of random item drops and super strong heroes too.
previous comments already mentioned all the bugs that i saw.(fps drop cause of snow,shock wave,TC. and chapter8)
The septer item is kinda too op,maybe put it only on hard difficulty ot make it 1% heal?or give enemy stronger heroes on the 2 last missions cause your heroes alnoe can kill their entire armies with that septer.
Again, Great job to u guys and thank u for making such a good campaign.hope to see more of your amazing work in the future,do u have any plans for continuing the story line?

 

[Kasrkin]

Almost done with the campaign will post final feedback, thoughts, bugs and anything else together likely later today.

Spoiler

 

[Macielos]

Alright, slowly moving through the buglist. The Ranger's suicidal Bladestorm was tricky. It was only in Chapter Two because there was an old version of this skill in the object editor that was initially planned to be active (like Black Arrow), but due to some problems I simplified it to a passive one. Why it was there and why it reset to default Bladestorm stats, I have no idea. It had conflicted id with a current campaign skill, so I couldn't remove or reset it. Eventually I had to export "clean" object data and import it to Chapter Two, effectively erasing old trash and fixing the skill.

 

[Nyctaeus]

do u have any plans for continuing the story line?

Sequel is in the works.

Hello author, I am a Warcraft player from China, your work is very good, can I translate your work?

Thank you. I suggest to wait a bit until we deploy a patch and fix couple important issues.

 

[Kasrkin]

It seems skipping the intro has it so Margoth doesn't have 0 lumber.
I know he's controllable in some missions but Margoth could use an initial starting item or two, his spell kit as it is already more built for a player than being AI friendly anyhow.
Farm in the trees
Not as important but the path units can walk on goes a little past the bridge itself.
Some units stuck in the arena with the demolisher occasionally trying to move out.
'Power of the forsaken'
And the good captain gets -the- axe for her excellent service.
After a restart I thought it best to just leave the sea portion alone considering how easy the ogres are to actually fight with their low armor and no upgrades. Also the allied alteraci not willing to fight while the ogres came down to kill them all was rather humorous.
The altar of flames model seems to have a problem with its portrait icon it will always show up as a building under construction.
Well they have workers this time but do they have a gold mine, or was the tick rate for the gold mine a regular amount and it collapsed by the time I completed the objective.

It's a fun mission but I completely ignored the waterway portion to just fight everything head on, while the extra gold in the center island is a nice prospect I'd rather just kick the absolute crap out of the forsaken and take their gold. Bit of a dead horse at this point but the way allied AI acts for these types of missions is not very helpful, retreating when losing and liking to follow you most of the time getting in the way when doing the latter. Ultimately the mission seems more scary than it actually is, kill the forsaken and GET THE AXE.


While this isn't the screen I intended for this it'll have to do, the good captain does not actually look at nathanos when she moves to confront him instead seemingly staring at the forsaken sharpshooters on the left.
I don't know what possessed me to make sure I took a cavalier during the nathanos fight but I did so he doesn't count toward the objective.
Don't know what caused this happen, tried to cast the spell on the elementalist he interrupted it. Tried it again on another unit, lo and behold I get the magic man and enforcer.
Don't remember why I took this one, that's what I get for not taking notes but I don't do that a lot anymore. Anyway, the references to wow's stupid writing are a bit jarring when they're there because it's purely meta.

I am disappointed sylvanas didn't die and the hypocrisy of a character and a faction that was always evil trying to blame it on something else sounds like something the forsaken would do even in wow.

Crippling blow does not have the correct text for damage.
I blew up the besieger base before the red one, yeah I committed once I went in.
It seems the forsaken ran out of gold in their mine, probably a different tick rate maybe.
At the same time my observation of the two forsaken AI is that the vanguard is the only one that actually does anything. While the mission states you need to juggle between the various undead bases otherwise they all attack you that's not the case as the scourge factions and the forsaken vanguard all attack you and only you. I saw a building in the forsaken army base that was damaged and it was one of the northernmost parts of the base and a tower.
I have no idea what happened here Eldin got stuck and was unable to get out until I blew up the transport.
Another hostile mine.
Once you get down to it, the scourge bases aren't actually that hard to fight.
This wide shot in the outro has a rather bad fps drop.

Hmm, now that I'm actually done with the campaign I gotta say this mission feels more like the climax than chapter eleven does. With the non threat of even the forsaken vanguard you just need a few towers against them the real challenge is being able to set up the rangers' base in peace while all the undead factions send flyers up in your craw forcing you to rebuild cause it's all at once. There's also the goblin labratory with its zepplins not costing any food so you don't have to worry about all the transports taking up space, if I knew it was over there earlier I would have taken all I could. If you're wondering about the high gold I was really tired when starting this mission so I took a long time before coming back to it the next day.

The intro has terrible fps with all the heavy snow everywhere even when the scene switches to being inside the background tanks it a little.
Solymus has a bit of a problem in this mission in wanting to hug the walls really badly.
The napalm drop doesn't actually tell you how long it lasts.
That moloch timer doesn't tell you how long until the trebuchets are actually ready.
Summons from Solymus immediately go somewhere else whenever he summons them for combat.
I'm not trapped in this valley with you, YOU'RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME!
Might need to increase tree hitpoints with AI workers just stopping over here once nearby trees are gone, there's also the giant hole that opens up from cutting down the tree line but the enemy AI don't use it anyway.
You can't actually get pretty far off the bridge with a unit in the middle area of the bridge it seems haven't checked the other parts, only noticed because all the skeletons got bunched up.

It's a certainly engaging mission but I hate the timer because it doesn't give me enough time to wipe out kel'thuzad's paltry forces with the time given to me and the events that happen during the mission. Plot demands I lose the keep but I know I kicked their asses.

While the states of your units seemingly get refreshed in this cutscene, the marshal still has his disease effect.
The enclave towers belong to the alliance faction.
Were the unit states frozen once it switched over to the captain? It's a bit strange to see all your units still under the effects of curse and disease cloud.
Just now realizing the golem isn't actually classified as mechanical so you can heal it with every spell you got.
Might need to despawn those initial elementals from Solymus
Solymus also tries to attack the reinforcing undead after summoning new elementals for the cinematic you can see he does try with that mana shield effect floating there.
Snow coming inside barely in the final shots.

That was fun, a bit rough in some spots but it was a fun campaign. I do like that you two ultimately did something with the lore blackhole that is alterac with the ogres and orcs that were somehow just there even before roc went down. Using the fact that alterac's population was still pretty much intact after their capital was destroyed was nice I appreciate that. Lordaeron as Azeroth blue will always annoy me but that's just me heh. The power your heroes get is still rather crazy, the randomized loot in a lot of places makes the potential even crazier. The level of engagement was problematic in some levels or that might've just been me as I found myself not caring at times until suddenly it went from 0 to 100 in a blink of an eye and now I'm unprepared for something. Was a bit miffed I couldn't really use the syndicate and enclave tech trees to their fullest but eh.

Looking forward to the next chapter guys.

 

[Macielos]

Okay, I'm nearing the end of fixes in Chapter Four.

Also, in the little dialogue after the finale, what exactly is Solymus reffering to when he calls for Inaylia? Im not making any assumptions but ehm...

Spoiler: Spoiler

It's a little hint (another one actually) about Inaylia's future within the Enclave. Sorry, I don't want to reveal much more until we release some more info about the sequel .

Edit: I know the scepter of healing was part of the first campaign in the same mission where Reynart goes around the villages looking for supplies and you probably wanted to keep true to the original, but it would honestly be best to have the item completely removed because having a walking healing fountain on any hero really makes it trivial, even on hard difficulty.

Well, I didn't notice it heals by a percentage. I added it mostly for the Holy Light. The aura will be nerfed.

One last thing I'd go over the dialogue again grammar wise I had a hard time understanding what was being said at times,

Well, I'm fixing several little grammar errors on the fly with almost every testing iteration, but with the amount of text it's difficult to catch all. Letting someone else do the proofreading is also problematic - it's either sending a list of changes like "change this for that in trigger XYZ" or freezing all the bugfixes until the proofreader finishes his job. So for now I'm just doing small steps .

also for the few sound bytes there were in cinematics and gameplay the text sometimes did not match.

Any examples? Were there a lot of them? I can't compare them in editor as I play on Polish version. Several cutscene dialogs were simply copied from YT playthroughs, and for the rest I asked someone with English version on Discord, I believe it was Footman16.

Were the ogres meant to be an AI faction? Their gold mine is at a very odd number.

Nope, they're just creeps with a small passive base. I'll set the amount to a more round number.

The lairs, assuming burrows, shoot at you without anything in them. Unless a worker model is broken or something.

They were created from burrows, I think, but it turned out they shoot on their own, so I just left them as secondary turrets. I may nerf their damage if necessary.

Revenair actually gathers by ten gold per tick before completing their quest then it's the typical one per tick.

Eh, one of these tiny things that are tricky to fix. Adding an idle AI will require me to lock units in cutscenes or add another player etc. I think I'll just hide the peasants.

Of course, if I don't refer to some of your feedback, it mostly just means I have no objections and it will be applied .

 

[Arthas_the_Mad]

Great campign. I had a lot of fun playing it. Can't wait for the sequel to appear. I would like for the syndicate to have a bigger palying time in the future campaign. Looking forward to it.

 

[Kasrkin]

Just noticed when Garithos comes back to his base his head is looking behind him.
The rocks near to your base allow you build inside them at least a little.
The first time I've ever seen sylvanas's groupies be attacked.
More rocks you can go inside of.
Cowardly lich when he's got nowhere to go.
The creep high necromancer in the city doesn't drop gold like the other units.
It might be best to make this gate invulnerable to give the illusion the city is bigger than it actually is.
The captain is stuck in a channel animation for the rest of the level after going through the dock section.
"Not before this filthy creature is dead by our hands"
"No need to tell me twice, captain."

Any examples? Were there a lot of them? I can't compare them in editor as I play on Polish version. Several cutscene dialogs were simply copied from YT playthroughs, and for the rest I asked someone with English version on Discord, I believe it was Footman16.

"I'll have to lead them myself."
"Feel the wrath of the Legion!"
"You vile traitors will suffer for this outrage!"

Just in the cinematics it seems.

 

[BossJohnnyDay]

Okay, I'm nearing the end of fixes in Chapter Four.

Spoiler: Spoiler

It's a little hint (another one actually) about Inaylia's future within the Enclave. Sorry, I don't want to reveal much more until we release some more info about the sequel .

Well, I didn't notice it heals by a percentage. I added it mostly for the Holy Light. The aura will be nerfed.


Well, I'm fixing several little grammar errors on the fly with almost every testing iteration, but with the amount of text it's difficult to catch all. Letting someone else do the proofreading is also problematic - it's either sending a list of changes like "change this for that in trigger XYZ" or freezing all the bugfixes until the proofreader finishes his job. So for now I'm just doing small steps .

Any examples? Were there a lot of them? I can't compare them in editor as I play on Polish version. Several cutscene dialogs were simply copied from YT playthroughs, and for the rest I asked someone with English version on Discord, I believe it was Footman16.

Nope, they're just creeps with a small passive base. I'll set the amount to a more round number.


They were created from burrows, I think, but it turned out they shoot on their own, so I just left them as secondary turrets. I may nerf their damage if necessary.

Eh, one of these tiny things that are tricky to fix. Adding an idle AI will require me to lock units in cutscenes or add another player etc. I think I'll just hide the peasants.

Of course, if I don't refer to some of your feedback, it mostly just means I have no objections and it will be applied .

oi don't remove the scepter of healing i do love my hero as a healing tank for my soldiers

 

[Macielos]

oi don't remove the scepter of healing i do love my hero as a healing tank for my soldiers

Well, I didn't remove it, you can still holy light your troops with it, but the regeneration bonus is very small now. Sorry .

 

[Macielos]

While not as bad the shockwave drop is still there on this map.
The stomp ability from the basilisk caused a short drop as well.

Damn, I don't have almost any noticeable FPS drops when using these skills on 1.31, but what can I say, I'm one of these guys who bought RTX3060 to play Warcraft. I guess I'll have to replace this skill either way.

The arcane shield spell doesn't work, it's just the anti magic shell at the moment unless it's meant to be the vanilla shell and tooltip.

Well, it wasn't supposed to be much more than a rebranded banshee's skill. I didn't use it often, but I didn't have good enough ideas how to alter it. If you have one, I'm open to suggestions.

The ultimate difficulty of this section is very low for a long time until the very end, this made me complacent because there was no real defending going on until the last two minutes.

I had a problem to balance this section because the player - if he didn't screw up earlier parts really hard - has two big squads of units and two heroes from the beginning. So far I boosted attack waves a bit, increased their intensivity in the final part and removed some of Reynart's men (they were just sent to meet with Alfric). You'll see if that's enough.

The captain isn't green

Ehh, this is a pain in the ass. Her unit has a color fixed to emerald, I even changed her color by trigger, but in cutscenes she still speaks as dark blue. Apparently even Blizz can't do it right, e.g. in "New Power in Lordaeron" (which was a base for chapter two) they went as far as changing player color to red every time Varimathras spoke. So far I ended up adding a dummy emerald player and changing Inaylia's owner to that player for major cutscenes.

As always, thanks for the feedback, it's very useful. 05 and 06 done, slowly going forward.

 

[Footman16]

Damn, I don't have almost any noticeable FPS drops when using these skills on 1.31, but what can I say, I'm one of these guys who bought RTX3060 to play Warcraft. I guess I'll have to replace this skill either way.

As I said during testing and in this thread simply make a new shockwave skill based off of carrion swarm or crushing wave and change all their fields to be just like shockwave and you'll fix it. Its caused by the terrain deformations that shockwave causes.

Ehh, this is a pain in the ass. Her unit has a color fixed to emerald, I even changed her color by trigger, but in cutscenes she still speaks as dark blue. Apparently even Blizz can't do it right, e.g. in "New Power in Lordaeron" (which was a base for chapter two) they went as far as changing player color to red every time Varimathras spoke. So far I ended up adding a dummy emerald player and changing Inaylia's owner to that player for major cutscenes.

I use Transmission from Unit-Type at the position of whatever unit is talking to get around this.

 

[Tuwnew]

That was pretty cool!
At first, I thought it would be a simple "remake", but it went on a totally different way!

Very good job, congrats!

If I could suggest one thing: try Jass AI

 

[DjSSPECTRE]

TFW you complete such a good campaign that your life has no meaning again. In all seriousness, this campaign is one of the best ones I've played. The story kept me playing for hours in one sitting, the familiar but somewhat altered techtree was nice, really loved the Enclave units and their skins, the realistic appearance of cliffs and canyons is something that absolutely blew me away, especially when it showed the Alterac City. The Heroes are just great together. Overall, the campaign really sent me on a rollercoaster of emotions, had me worried for Inaylia in the epilogue lol. Can't wait for the sequel!

 

[Nyctaeus]

TFW you complete such a good campaign that your life has no meaning again. In all seriousness, this campaign is one of the best ones I've played. The story kept me playing for hours in one sitting, the familiar but somewhat altered techtree was nice, really loved the Enclave units and their skins, the realistic appearance of cliffs and canyons is something that absolutely blew me away, especially when it showed the Alterac City. The Heroes are just great together. Overall, the campaign really sent me on a rollercoaster of emotions, had me worried for Inaylia in the epilogue lol. Can't wait for the sequel!

I can say that sequel is gonna be...

Spoiler: ...

...much more focused on the Enclave, and it will come with fully-fledged tech tree for them. Perhaps maybe even with opportunity to lead their army into battle.

:].

 

[BossJohnnyDay]

will the sequel focus entirely on thier quest to settle in jiluun while exploring the ruins and finding artifacts from the civilization that once existed thier and since it's gonna focus on the enclave will alinthor and co have a new armor style to fit the enclave theme and maybe thier own unique named weapon like those of war glaives of azinoth, light's vengeance, frostmourne, and shalamayne

 

[DjSSPECTRE]

I can say that sequel is gonna be...

Spoiler: ...

...much more focused on the Enclave, and it will come with fully-fledged tech tree for them. Perhaps maybe even with opportunity to lead their army into battle.

Awesome. Can't wait to play it . Oh, i forgot to mention one thing in my previous comment. In Chapter 11, after a Moloch is ready to fire, the timer just stays at 00:00:00. After all 6 are deployed, it kinda becomes a mess in the upper part of the screen

 

[Macielos]

If I could suggest one thing: try Jass AI

Yep, we're going to. I began reading about it already, I didn't want to rework Exodus AIs on the last lap, but we will probably use it in the sequel's AIs.

will the sequel focus entirely on thier quest to settle in jiluun while exploring the ruins and finding artifacts from the civilization that once existed thier and since it's gonna focus on the enclave will alinthor and co have a new armor style to fit the enclave theme and maybe thier own unique named weapon like those of war glaives of azinoth, light's vengeance, frostmourne, and shalamayne

Spoiler: Spoiler

Yes, it will focus on Jiluun and include lots of stuff that we don't reveal for now . There's a high chance Inaylia and Reynart will receive new models by then. As for items, we haven't thought of it yet, but surely there will be a large variety of new Enclave-style items to collect, including some unique ones.

I use Transmission from Unit-Type at the position of whatever unit is talking to get around this.

Damn, so simple, yet I didn't think of it... But to my defence - neither did Blizz devs .

 

[Ann]

Eldin cannot lift the possession spell, especially in chapter 9, instead, it causes mini-stun. I played on 1.31 version.

 

[Macielos]

Eldin cannot lift the possession spell, especially in chapter 9, instead, it causes mini-stun. I played on 1.31 version.

Hmm, my guess is that an enemy unit simply used a skill to interrupt and stun him (e.g. Syndicate elementalist's fire bolt). I noticed it happened in my playthroughs from time to time. Kasrkin mentioned the same.


Damn, I can't reproduce the bug in Chapter 8 with the convoy not appearing after blowing the horn. I remember it appeared in earlier stages of making this mission, but it stopped appearing when I changed the trigger's event from "begins casting ability" to "finishes casting ability". Now I tried several approaches, i did it before and after the ogre part, I clicked it once, I tried mass-clicking, I triggered several convoys simultaneously, but the trigger is always... well, triggered. I even added a horn sound as a form of debug and it just works.

 

[johnmax]

I post most of the camping here

https://www.youtube.com/@johnmaximous383/playlists

 

[Macielos]

I post most of the camping here

https://www.youtube.com/@johnmaximous383/playlists

That's great news, keep going. I just hope you won't bump into this bug in Chapter 8 (or if you will, don't publish the playthough yet, but show it to me so I can finally reproduce and fix it ).

 

[Saniok]

Speaking of Convoy in Chapter 8.
Did you know, that the convoy units stop spawning when the circle has no player's units on it?
Bring at least a single unit right on the circle (right on top of the circle), only then convoy will start/continue moving (new units will continue to spawn).

UPD.
That's just my guess, i did not have much problems with it, so did not need or had time to test it.

Also, maybe someone doesn't know, you not just need to initially bring your units to the circle, but also select the circle, and use an ability in the command card while circle is selected, only then convoy units will start spawning & moving.

 

[Macielos]

Speaking of Convoy in Chapter 8.
Did you know, that the convoy units stop spawning when the circle has no player's units on it?
Bring at least a single unit right on the circle (right on top of the circle), only then convoy will start/continue moving (new units will continue to spawn).

That's strange behaviour, I've never observed anything like this, and I always trigger the convoy spawn and then send units north to intercept any attackers. Are you sure the convoy units aren't getting stuck anywhere? Is the counter not incrementing when you're away from the beacon?

And standard question about the version you play on.

 

[Bodregg]

I'm running on 1.31.1 and placed the w3n file for this campaign into my Campaigns folder, but it isn't showing up in-game. Several other campaigns that are also made for 1.31 are in the same file and function properly. Can anyone help me out with this?

 

[Saniok]

That's strange behaviour, I've never observed anything like this, and I always trigger the convoy spawn and then send units north to intercept any attackers. Are you sure the convoy units aren't getting stuck anywhere? Is the counter not incrementing when you're away from the beacon?

And standard question about the version you play on.

Maybe im wrong, and/or there is a limit on max amount of simultaneous convoy units, but it looked, like new spawned, when i brought my units back to the circle. I did not test it thoroughly, because i did that without too much time spent on the convoy process (and also i did all 3 lines at the same time, after i cleared the map), so i can not say for sure, if my workaround is correct, or not, it is more a suggestion, guess, or idea, rather than a tested workaround.

 

[Tryndamere]

Hello sir.. I have a suggestion, is it possible to make enemy heroes equal in level to our heroes every chapter? and also make them carry an item to add to the impression of resistance, because our hero must be equipped with a lot of items but enemy heroes don't have a single item so it feels one-sided if we meet them every chapter

 

[Macielos]

Hello sir.. I have a suggestion, is it possible to make enemy heroes equal in level to our heroes every chapter? and also make them carry an item to add to the impression of resistance, because our hero must be equipped with a lot of items but enemy heroes don't have a single item so it feels one-sided if we meet them every chapter

They have much higher level and more skills on Hard, but you're right, I'll buff them a bit in the later missions, items might be a good idea. I also consider a slight nerf for all heroes, i.e. reducing hitpoints and mana gained per each attribute point.

 

[deepstrasz]

I'm running on 1.31.1 and placed the w3n file for this campaign into my Campaigns folder, but it isn't showing up in-game. Several other campaigns that are also made for 1.31 are in the same file and function properly. Can anyone help me out with this?

Try shortening the name of the name of the campaign file to Exodus. Also, make sure the Campaigns folder is under C: (or where your Windows is)/documents\Warcraft III\Campaigns or something like that.

 

[Saniok]

Chapter 9:
1) when beginning channeling an ability on hero (for the main quest), elf-hero (i forgot his name) not just changes faction, but also you lose his vision (vision should be shared with the player)
2) while he has a different faction, if he dies - the main quest does not fail, which requires manual restart/load game (should be the "defeat" dialog).
.
Why vision matters, because there is risk of accidentally killing Alteraci hero (i didnt test this case), so you run away your units and only take an elf-hero for casting once again (when his guards are already dead and he his injured)

 

[Bodregg]

Try shortening the name of the name of the campaign file to Exodus. Also, make sure the Campaigns folder is under C: (or where your Windows is)/documents\Warcraft III\Campaigns or something like that.

Shortening the name didn't help, unfortunately. It was already in the correct Campaigns folder, so that wasn't the issue.

 

[deepstrasz]

Shortening the name didn't help, unfortunately. It was already in the correct Campaigns folder, so that wasn't the issue.

Hmm. You are using 1.31.1 and not the 1.31 PTR, yes?
Also, make sure the campaign file was downloaded correctly. Check the file size on the site and on your HDD. If there are issues with the download, try using the Legacy Download button instead of the big DOWNLOAD one.

 

[BossJohnnyDay]

when is the patch gonna be released i wanna play again but the lag bug with shockwave is annoying

 

[Macielos]

when is the patch gonna be released i wanna play again but the lag bug with shockwave is annoying

The shockwave, the caravan bug in 08 (although still not reproduced by me) and some AI testing are the last major things left for me to do before I release the patch. I'll work on them at the weekend.

Although I still have no idea why these deformations are so laggy, as it's just the normal RoC shockwave with extra level. Okay, terrain is much less flat in Exodus than in Blizz campaigns, but still...

Chapter 9:
1) when beginning channeling an ability on hero (for the main quest), elf-hero (i forgot his name) not just changes faction, but also you lose his vision (vision should be shared with the player)
2) while he has a different faction, if he dies - the main quest does not fail, which requires manual restart/load game (should be the "defeat" dialog).
.
Why vision matters, because there is risk of accidentally killing Alteraci hero (i didnt test this case), so you run away your units and only take an elf-hero for casting once again (when his guards are already dead and he his injured)

Noted, thx.

 

[Jayred0320]

This campaign was just amazing. The plot was really interesting and it pulled through until the end. The gameplay is really enjoyable as well, my favorite section was whenever you're controlling the Lordaeron Rangers, they're really fun to use. And secondly the terror of the skies the Gunship. That piece of Dwarven brilliance was outstanding. And of course, I can't forget about the terrain design. It was beautiful in all aspects, overall this campaign for me is a solid 9/10.

Can't wait for the next installment. I hope it doesn't take too long for it to be released but I don't mind either way. I mean having it rushed will no doubt make its quality drop a lot, and I'd rather wait quite a while than have it half-baked.

 

[BossJohnnyDay]

The shockwave, the caravan bug in 08 (although still not reproduced by me) and some AI testing are the last major things left for me to do before I release the patch. I'll work on them at the weekend.

Although I still have no idea why these deformations are so laggy, as it's just the normal RoC shockwave with extra level. Okay, terrain is much less flat in Exodus than in Blizz campaigns, but still...

Noted, thx.

why not try to remove the terrain deformation caused by the skill shockwave like replace it with carrion swarm but change it to look like and act like the skill shockwave and then test it out if it still lags or not because shockwave only started to lag starting at chapter 2 i tried using cheat engine to levelp up my hero to 10 on the first level to see it maxing out shockwave to level 4 is causing the lag but nothing it didn't garithor was level 8 so i doubt a maxed up shockwave is the cause i do feel it's because of the custom terrain that shockwave is causing the lag though as you said chapter 1 stayed as it is with no custom terrain or if it has just the minimum but starting from chapter 2 until the last chapter were pretty much all custom terrain which might the causing the lag shockwaing is causing

 

[Macielos]

why not try to remove the terrain deformation caused by the skill shockwave like replace it with carrion swarm but change it to look like and act like the skill shockwave and then test it out if it still lags or not because shockwave only started to lag starting at chapter 2 i tried using cheat engine to levelp up my hero to 10 on the first level to see it maxing out shockwave to level 4 is causing the lag but nothing it didn't garithor was level 8 so i doubt a maxed up shockwave is the cause i do feel it's because of the custom terrain that shockwave is causing the lag though as you said chapter 1 stayed as it is with no custom terrain or if it has just the minimum but starting from chapter 2 until the last chapter were pretty much all custom terrain which might the causing the lag shockwaing is causing

Yeah, that's probably the case, several people mentioned it already. I already replaced the shockwave with carrion swarm based version, it should help. Footman16 also noticed I may need to replace a war stomp (for Mug'thol for example) and the thunder clap (for Thamdan) as it also causes terrain deformations, but I don't have a replacement yet, apart from taking e.g. fan of knives and adding a stun chance by triggers.

 

[Saniok]

In the finale chapter, the cinematic, that starts after killing the big spider (when 2 heroes got rescued to the base) will end up with the black screen (only when cutscene is cancelled).

Can you change cutscene triggers to replace cinematic ending part by calling the cinematic cancel trigger, so that trigger would be called in both cases:

1. By default, at cutscene ending
2. When cutscene is cancelled

It would reduce code and help avoid the differences.
I dont remember where i have seen it, either in reforged blizz maps, or in starcraft 2, but it is a good idea to use, if possible.

 

[Macielos]

In the finale chapter, the cinematic, that starts after killing the big spider (when 2 heroes got rescued to the base) will end up with the black screen (only when cutscene is cancelled).

Can you change cutscene triggers to replace cinematic ending part by calling the cinematic cancel trigger, so that trigger would be called in both cases:

1. By default, at cutscene ending
2. When cutscene is cancelled

It would reduce code and help avoid the differences.
I dont remember where i have seen it, either in reforged blizz maps, or in starcraft 2, but it is a good idea to use, if possible.

I'm doing that with every cutscene. I have a "skip" trigger and a "cleanup" trigger called both by skip and at the end of a cutscene.

I checked this cutscene triggers and while skipping logic is fine, a few waits and messages were missing this after them:

If (BarrierSkipped Równa się TAK) then do (Skip remaining actions) else do (Do nothing)

so perhaps you were unlucky to skip the cutscene during one of these and some actions (including a fadeout) were executed anyway. Either way, that's fixed now.

 

[HoagTrain]

Hey! I just started playing this yesterday and am on chapter four (Alterac) and the game keeps crashing 3 mins in. Right after the small fight with the bandits in the first town. About 1 min after the second cinematic - when you inherit the town after.

At first i thought it was crashing when i was pressing hotkeys (like f1 to select my hero) but i've tried restarting it probably 7 times now and this latest time it just crashed within a minute of taking over the first town without me pressing anything at all. Just flagging! Not sure if its a timed trigger that's doing it but I'm dying to play this level as it seems awesome!!

I just downloaded the version at the top of this page that says "this bundle is pending."

P.s. i'm going to try to download the earlier version now, but is there some sort of cheat code i can type in to skip the first three levels since i already played and beat them on this version? Or if i'm an idiot is there any way to have the campaign unlock all the levels. Just don't want to spend 2-3 hrs having to catch up on levels I already played!

 

[Macielos]

Hey! I just started playing this yesterday and am on chapter four (Alterac) and the game keeps crashing 3 mins in. Right after the small fight with the bandits in the first town. About 1 min after the second cinematic - when you inherit the town after.

At first i thought it was crashing when i was pressing hotkeys (like f1 to select my hero) but i've tried restarting it probably 7 times now and this latest time it just crashed within a minute of taking over the first town without me pressing anything at all. Just flagging! Not sure if its a timed trigger that's doing it but I'm dying to play this level as it seems awesome!!

Sorry to hear that. I'm not an expert in why this game may crash. You'd probably want to find and analyze a crash dump. I found this tutorial that should give some hints: https://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php?view=146107. You can also upload it here. The location for logs seems fine, at least I have some old dumps there.

But first of all, on what WC3 version are you playing? 1.31.1 is recommended. Newer ones should work, but have some issues. Older ones - I doubt so.

Based on the mission timestamp you mentioned, it may be an AI issue as it starts just about that time. Or maybe something changes when you skip a cinematic or not?

I just downloaded the version at the top of this page that says "this bundle is pending."

It's pending because it hasn't been reviewed by the moderation yet. A patch for some other issues is underway and should arrive this or next weekend, but I don't know if it fixes yours.

P.s. i'm going to try to download the earlier version now

Sorry, there is no earlier version apart from the one I made 12 years ago . Which is completly different campaign to be honest, it just shares some heroes.

, but is there some sort of cheat code i can type in to skip the first three levels since i already played and beat them on this version? Or if i'm an idiot is there any way to have the campaign unlock all the levels. Just don't want to spend 2-3 hrs having to catch up on levels I already played!

The standard allyourbasearebelongtous should work in all missions. You can also just open the campaign in the world editor and in the second tab enable visibility of any mission you want (that way is better if you stopped playing on one version and want to continue on another because you keep your progress from the previous mission).

 

[Griffith]

One of the greatest campaign I have played in a while The characters, the theme, the story, the models, everything—even though humans are my least favorite race—but, wow man, this campagin is insane. Really good job making this amazing project, and I'm looking forward to the sequel! When defending the Lonaly bridge from the countless undead attacks in the second-to-last chapter, the air forces and catapults have the feel of an actual battle, similar to the Game of Thrones' Long Night episode.

 

[Macielos]

similar to the Game of Thrones' Long Night episode.

But with a better scenario and tactics of both sides

 

[Griffith]

But with a better scenario and tactics of both sides

I 100% agree with this man!