Evasion and Critical with agility

[Xenogamer]

Hello, i making a RPG map and i want to use agility that influence the chance of the hide passive of Evasion and Critical Strike with a trigger, i been looking but i don't find a clear solution to do this.

 

[Luciano Alencar Boi]

How about creating an evasion with 99 levels, from 1% evasion to 99% evasion. Give to all heroes.
Then make a trigger with a periodic event to set the level of the Evasion to the % you want based on that hero's agility.
For example, if 2 agility = 1% evasion. You'd set ability level to Hero's agility / 2.

 

[Chaosium]

You can trigger it all to have flexibility, here are the bare bones of a system (reforged needed for this useful event in GUI):

• Evasion
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit About to take damage
  • Conditions
    • ((Triggering unit) is A Hero) Equal to True
    • (Damage From Normal Attack) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Set VariableSet EvadeChances = (Real((Agility of (Triggering unit) (Include bonuses))))
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Random real number between 0.00 and 100.00) Less than or equal to EvadeChances
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- Cancel the damage --------
        • Event Response - Set Damage of Unit Damaged Event to 0.00
        • -------- Show a little text like the real evasion --------
        • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads |c00FF0000miss!|r above (Damage source) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 9.00, color (100.00%, 100.00%, 100.00%), and 0.00% transparency
        • Floating Text - Set the velocity of (Last created floating text) to 64.00 towards 90.00 degrees
        • Floating Text - Change (Last created floating text): Disable permanence
        • Floating Text - Change the lifespan of (Last created floating text) to 2.00 seconds
        • Floating Text - Change the fading age of (Last created floating text) to 1.00 seconds
      • Else - Actions

• Crit
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit About to take damage
  • Conditions
    • ((Damage source) is A Hero) Equal to True
    • (Damage From Normal Attack) Equal to True
  • Actions
    • Set VariableSet CritChances = (Real((Agility of (Damage source) (Include bonuses))))
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Random real number between 0.00 and 100.00) Less than or equal to CritChances
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- Deal double damage or whatever value you want --------
        • Event Response - Set Damage of Unit Damaged Event to ((Damage taken) x 2.00)
        • -------- Show a little text like the real crit --------
        • Floating Text - Create floating text that reads (|c00FF0000 + ((String((Integer((Damage taken))))) + !|r)) above (Damage source) with Z offset 0.00, using font size 9.00, color (100.00%, 100.00%, 100.00%), and 0.00% transparency
        • Floating Text - Set the velocity of (Last created floating text) to 64.00 towards 90.00 degrees
        • Floating Text - Change (Last created floating text): Disable permanence
        • Floating Text - Change the lifespan of (Last created floating text) to 2.00 seconds
        • Floating Text - Change the fading age of (Last created floating text) to 1.00 seconds
      • Else - Actions

You can add conditions and probably array based on how many heroes can benefit from those, and do something about the text so that it doesn't overlap, but that's basically it

 

[Xenogamer]

Sorry for replying so late, I haven't had time to review it.

From what I understand and what I've been testing, evasion and critical increases 1% for each point of agility, wouldn't that mean that having 100 agility would always cause critical hits and attacks would always miss?

 

[Chaosium]

Yup, but then it's up to you to find a balanced value in the stat economy of your map

 

[Xenogamer]

OK thanks for the help.
I was able to find a way to balance it so that it works the way I want on my map.
I appreciated

Is there a way to limit the amount of evasion/critical hit that can increase? Like limiting evasion to more than 60%, for example? Eventually, agility will increase so much that evasion will increase too much, and I don't want the condition for increasing evasion to be so high that it becomes useless or never works.

 

[Luciano Alencar Boi]

OK thanks for the help.
I was able to find a way to balance it so that it works the way I want on my map.
I appreciated

Is there a way to limit the amount of evasion/critical hit that can increase? Like limiting evasion to more than 60%, for example? Eventually, agility will increase so much that evasion will increase too much, and I don't want the condition for increasing evasion to be so high that it becomes useless or never works.

You can make an if / then / else like:

If hero agility greater than X
Then set evasion rate to X%
Else set evasion rate to Agility x X%

Or you can find a math formula to make the evasion / critical % not linear. Like 1 agility = 1%, 3 agility = 2%, 6 agility = 3%... But you need to be good at math to do it and I'm not hehe.

 

[Luciano Alencar Boi]

Hey, I was thinking about the math on this...
Here's a formula based on the Armor damage reduction formula for WC3.

((Agility*0,01)/(1+Agility*0,01))*100

This gives back
1 = 0.99% 5 = 4,7%
10 = 9% 15 = 13%
20 = 16% 30 = 23%
50 = 33% 100 = 50%
200 = 66% 300 = 75%
1000 = 90% 3000 = 96%

You'll get a graph like this:
View attachment 542511

You can change the value of 0,01 to other numbers to change how fast or how slow the progression goes (bigger numbers will progress faster and smaller numbers will progress slower).
The armor formula uses 0.06 for example giving about 5% variation for every point initially, but this formula will never go above 100%.

 

[Nichilus]

You can just use "Math - Min" function which returns whichever value is lower out of the two arguments. As one parameter provide your calculated chance, as other provide your cap/max value. Works for both reals and integers.
For example:

• Set VariableSet crit_chance = "some calculation that can possibly get number over 60.00"
• Set VariableSet crit_chance = (Min(crit_chance, 60.00)) //this caps the chance at 60.00 max