Enemies Spawning

[Impereal Gardian]

Hello!

I seem to be running into a problem. What the problem is, is that I have <Region 1> spawns units randomly in the region.

But what i am aiming for is to make enemies spawn globally, except for certain regions.

If this is unclear, I can provide some pictures.
Thanks !

 

[Solu9]

Events -
Conditions -
Actions -
Set Temp_Point = Somewhere in the map
if -
Region X contains Temp_Point
Then -
Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_pTemp_Point)
Run This Trigger
Else -
Spawn your units

Under the If -
You can do an "Or, multiple conditions" check to check all of the non spawning regions

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Sorry, forgot to mention im really bad at this :x

but here is an attempt http://prntscr.com/3nix0n

edit: dunno if this helps any http://prntscr.com/3nixz4
oh and i saved, this popped up http://prntscr.com/3niz79

 

[Solu9]

First of. Always use "If/Then/Else, Multiple Functions". It gives you much more control and is a LOT easier to edit.

Anyway you are doing it right in the first picture. But instead of "Random point in region" use the Temp_Point variable.

Edit:
Oh. Temp_Point is a Point variable NOT a region variable.

Edit2:

Under actions, first set the Temp_Point to a Fx. random point in playable area.
Then add the If/Then/Else, Multiple Functions action.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Thanks, i'll let you know how it goes in a few hours

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Alright, i think I done this right, but an error pops up http://prntscr.com/3njhsy

I changed the variable, its Point now

This is the error in full http://prntscr.com/3njip2

 

[Solu9]

Ah. Remove the lower case p so it looks like this:
Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
The p was just a remnant from my own trigger.

Edit:
Btw. Post your triggers as triggers instead of pictures. Pretty please.

Edit2:
After looking at the picture it is clear that the trigger will not work.
Can you figure out why?

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Ah, just remembered how to do that

However, when i try to testrun the map it closes out of warcraft 3 and leaves no saying why.

Zombie Spawn Test
Events
Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -coop as A substring
Conditions
Actions
Set Temp_Point = (Random point in Dont Spawn Enemies <gen>)
If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
If - Conditions
(Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True
Then - Actions
Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
Else - Actions
Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Random point in Whole Map <gen>) facing (Center of Whole Map <gen>)

Edit - "After looking at the picture it is clear that the trigger will not work.
Can you figure out why?" -nope i'm not so familiar with this :/ trying to be though

 

[Solu9]

When you post your trigger do it between trigger tags. [trigger.]YOUR TRIGGER[/trigger.] (without punctuations).

Yeah it does not work. As I said in edit2. Can you figure out why?
It's actually quite obvious once you see it.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Is it the fact that im using regions to spawn enemies and not using Entire Map thingy?

 

[Solu9]

Sort of.
You place the Temp_Point in the region where units are not allowed to spawn.
Yet you check in the IF - condition that if the point is in that same region you run the trigger again. And thus is will loop indefinitely and crash the game.
The Temp_Point must be placed a random point all the playable area (meaning where you want units to spawn).
The reason for the if/then/else is to check if the point is within one of those non-spawn zones. If it is you want to remove the point and set a new.

Since you didn't specify whether or not the whole of the map is able for spawn I just assumed it is.
If not. Then the trigger will not be as simple as it is right now.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Wait, so You place the Temp_Point in the region where units are not allowed to spawn.

but

The Temp_Point must be placed a random point all the playable area (meaning where you want units to spawn).

Im a bit confused, sorry :x

Note: Messed with it a bit, i got units to spawn, but they still spawned in non-spawning areas

 

[Solu9]

Wait, so You place the Temp_Point in the region where units are not allowed to spawn.

No. However in your trigger YOU do.

The reason for the If/Then/Else is to see if the Temp_Point is located in the Don't Spawn Region. IF it is, then the trigger is run again.

Perhaps you should specify your needs better. We might be talking past each other and that's why is harder to understand.
Fx. Can the units spawn ANYWHERE besides the Don't Spawn Region in your map?

 

[Impereal Gardian]

The enemy units can spawn anywhere except the non-spawn room.

Got them to spawn, but still some spawn in the non-spawning area

 

[Solu9]

The enemy units can spawn anywhere except the non-spawn room.

Got them to spawn, but still some spawn in the non-spawning area

So far so good. Post your current trigger.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

• Zombie Spawn Test
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -coop as A substring
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set Temp_Point = (Random point in Whole Map <gen>)
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
        • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
      • Else - Actions
        • Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Random point in Whole Map <gen>) facing (Center of Whole Map <gen>)

I removed a bunch of the "create units" to make it shorter

edit: (Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True <-- im noob but it seems fishy

 

[Solu9]

Yup. I said this some posts ago.
This action:
Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Random point in Whole Map <gen>) facing (Center of Whole Map <gen>)

You want the unit to spawn at Temp_Point. Because the whole reason (well one of them) for setting the Temp_Point is to know if it is inside the Don't Spawn Region.
Therefore you must create the unit a the point you set, which means Temp_Point.

It should look like this:
Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at (Temp_Point) facing (Center of Whole Map <gen>)

Also.
If it is not important then don't make the unit face a point. Just leave it as it was.
The reason for this is that you will need to set a second point "Center of Whole Map" otherwise it will also cause a point leak.

Speaking of leaks. Read this until you understand it:
http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/cat_usersubmit.php?view=27219

Lastly. In the very end of your trigger you also need to do a point removal. Right know you only remove it if the point you set is in the Don't Spawn Region.
So at the end (outside the If/Then/else) do:
Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Okay so it works for the most part. Small question, what if I want them to spawn (for example) 1 by 1, and not spawn as a group?
i need Each zombie spawns somewhere different on the map except the non-spawn area, not together

• Zombie Spawn Test
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -coop as A substring
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Set Temp_Point = (Random point in Whole Map <gen>)
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True
      • Then - Actions
        • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
        • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
      • Else - Actions
        • Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees
        • Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees
        • Unit - Create 1 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees

I usually just copy/paste the create units and it works, but now they spawn in (this case) a group of 3.

i do have the call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point) in there, forgot to add it

big thanks so far

 

[Solu9]

Yeah you will need to loop the trigger. But I need to hit the sack. Crazy tired.
The problem with the loop is that in the "Then -" action you rerun the trigger.

I'll get on it when I wake up. Or perhaps you are lucky someone else can give you the answer
Nighty night.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Alright, thanks.

I'll avoid this bit for now and work on the other parts.

 

[Solu9]

Alright. Try this:

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -coop as An exact match
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • Spawn_Integer Greater than 5
      • Then - Actions
        • Set Temp_Point = (Random point in (Playable map area))
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True
          • Then - Actions
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
            • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
          • Else - Actions
            • Unit - Create 1 Zombie for Player 5 (Yellow) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees
            • Set Spawn_Integer = (Spawn_Integer + 1)
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
            • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
      • Else - Actions
        • Set Spawn_Integer = 0

Spawn_Integer is an Integer variable
Temp_Point is a Point variable


If you want to spawn more (or less) than 5 units, then just change the "5" in:
"Spawn_Integer Greater than 5"
To whatever amount you need.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

• Zombie Spawn Test
  • Events
    • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -coop as A substring
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • Spawn_Integer Greater than 3
      • Then - Actions
        • Set Temp_Point = (Random point in (Playable map area))
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Dont Spawn Enemies <gen> contains Temp_Point) Equal to True
          • Then - Actions
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
            • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
          • Else - Actions
            • Unit - Create 3 Zombie 1 for Player 5 (Yellow) at Temp_Point facing Default building facing degrees
            • Set Spawn_Integer = (Spawn_Integer + 1)
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Temp_Point)
            • Trigger - Run (This trigger) (checking conditions)
      • Else - Actions
        • Set Spawn_Integer = 0

For Set Spawn_Integer = (Spawn_Integer + 1) , i used arithmatic

However, no enemies spawn on the map at all.

 

[Solu9]

Ah crap.

It should be:
Spawn_Integer Less than or equal to 3

Yes. it's an arithmetic.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

Yes! It works perfectly DD

Thanks, it really means a lot to me
credits given in maps once its finished

 

[Solu9]

Great!
It was a long journey huh?
I suggest you look the trigger over and try to understand why it does what it does. There is some very basic stuff there that you need to know.

 

[Impereal Gardian]

I noticed that because of Set Spawn_Integer = (Spawn_Integer + 1), that adds +1 to a group

So if i wanted 25 groups, it needs to be set to "Spawn_Integer Greater than 24"

then the Units created determines how many enemies in those said given groups

 

[Solu9]

That's right.
Why do you need to set the Temp_Point before actually creating the units?

 

[Impereal Gardian]

To tell where the units can spawn?

 

[Solu9]

To tell where the units can spawn?

So simple

 

[Impereal Gardian]

I appreciate your help, i knew this would be the hardest part of this map franchise i plan to make.

My goal in these is to make them easily customizable by other people, being how the map looks and such.