Elfsilver's Epic Gallery of Epicness

Elfsilver Lord · Sep 28, 2008

I decided to start creating a gallery thread, all organized like General Franks, so here it goes.

9/27/2008

Satanic Arthas

Ok, here's my first entry. Its a Satanic Worshipper, based off the Arthas skin. I purposely overshadowed the armor to make it look dark and evil and yeah.

Mr.Goblin · Sep 28, 2008

good start.. but you still have to do the rest

Elfsilver Lord · Sep 28, 2008

I know. Its a WIP gallery. Im working on the chest right now. Any ideas?

Mr.Goblin · Sep 28, 2008

make someshort of nice armor design.. like this..

Hawkwing · Sep 28, 2008

The shadows are really off on the belt, and the hair has no contrast between the strands of hair whatsoever.

Elfsilver Lord · Sep 28, 2008

Hawkwing said:
The shadows are really off on the belt, and the hair has no contrast between the strands of hair whatsoever.

Its hard to manipulate contrast with Imsomnia hair. If I showed you the portrait, you would easily see the contrast.

And for the belt, I know its not properly shadowed. It was just to lay down basic basic basic highlights and shadows then move on.

Im still looking for chest ideas. Mr Goblin, the WoW armor wouldnt work out that great because Arthas's chest is asymmetrical and I dont wanna play with the wrap right now.

Hawkwing · Sep 28, 2008

Well you're going to need to change the hair. I don't care if it looks nice in the portrait, unless it's "nice" overall it is no good.

THE_END · Oct 1, 2008

Yea you need to change...all of it in my opinion
The Arthas skin is usually a vast array of recolors and bad freehand
So skip the recoloring and draw everything from scratch
It will show more hard work and allows up to help you come up with something awesome

Hawkwing · Oct 1, 2008

No offense, but my favourite part are the eyes right now. And even those are off, they should have stronger highlights giving it a more glowy effect.

Elfsilver Lord · Oct 2, 2008

THE_END said:
Yea you need to change...all of it in my opinion
The Arthas skin is usually a vast array of recolors and bad freehand
So skip the recoloring and draw everything from scratch
It will show more hard work and allows up to help you come up with something awesome

There is absolutely no recolor at all. Its all been drawn over. The only thing that is not freehand. is the Pentagram, which I found a picture online to paste in there and shade and all that crap.

Anyways, heres the unwrap for some who might want to see it.

I've just noticed Ive really gotta fix that goatee.

THE_END · Oct 3, 2008

Ok, there is no clear definitions anywhere really
It's all things generated in Photoshop through the use of filters, blurs, and patterns
You need to FREEHAND, look at other skins that have been approved in the gallery

Elfsilver Lord · Oct 3, 2008

THE_END said:
Ok, there is no clear definitions anywhere really
It's all things generated in Photoshop through the use of filters, blurs, and patterns
You need to FREEHAND, look at other skins that have been approved in the gallery

Only teh hair is filtered in, using the Imsomnia techniques. The layer effects is for rendering sakes, to make the unwrap look a bit more smooth when displayed by itself.

Hawkwing · Oct 3, 2008

No offence but this skin is just fail. The eyes are hardly glowing, the strands of hair are two small and lack contrast and they don't go in the right direction (well, it's not mandatory but it would look better if it curved down), the entire body is just a blob of black shadowy surfaces, the goatee is too straight, the star is copy and paste, etc.

Elenai · Oct 4, 2008

Keep practicing however, I see a good amount of potential in you, I foresee it.

It will look kinda crappy at first, but soon your skins will pick up speed.

Hawkwing · Oct 4, 2008

Elfsilver has potential, yes. He is a great skinner, but this is just not his best work.

Elfsilver Lord · Oct 4, 2008

Yeah, this is closer to mai best.

Grog50 · Oct 4, 2008

The metal on the arthas skin...doesnt resemble metal almost at all and the hair looks very bad. Try to make the hair from scratch. I hate filter hair.

Elfsilver Lord · Oct 4, 2008

Grog50 said:
The metal on the arthas skin...doesnt resemble metal

It's not metal, its like an obsidian dark granite rocky fire and brimstone kinda hellish thing.

X.e.r.e.X · Oct 4, 2008

Elfsilver Lord said:
It's not metal, its like an obsidian dark granite rocky fire and brimstone kinda hellish thing.

Well that explains everything in life really

Elfsilver Lord · Oct 4, 2008

X.e.r.e.X said:
Well that explains everything in life really

For me, hellish describes everything in life. :ctwist:

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 1, 2008

Demonology Series #1

Ok, I am starting up a Demonology series, where I will take the heroes of Warcraft and turn them into demons, pretty simple.

First off is the Demon Hunter, the Angel of Destruction.

Im having a bit of issues with the blade, so if someone could help me fit it to the model, that would be great.

Hawkwing · Nov 1, 2008

The chest is really boxy.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 1, 2008

Its purposeful. Its a demon, and armor is not organic, so it doesn't require the curves in the muscles as much as the actual flesh would need.

INF3RNO · Nov 2, 2008

why...why do people always go im gonna make a demon skin and just make something plain and add one of those so called demonic star things in and are like there its a demon cos it had a demonic star thingy >.<

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 2, 2008

INF3RNO said:
why...why do people always go im gonna make a demon skin and just make something plain and add one of those so called demonic star things in and are like there its a demon cos it had a demonic star thingy >.<

INF3RNO, its only a start. When I start the face, (sometime in the middle of next week) I'm adding in tatoos and runes all over, so don't be critisizing the concept when it is not fully executed.

Denu · Nov 2, 2008

Well he is right about the pentagram. It is very cliche. You should try and come up with something more original.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 2, 2008

Denu said:
Well he is right about the pentagram. It is very cliche. You should try and come up with something more original.

Unfortunately, my CS3 Master Edition is not working, so I cannot access half of my intricate Hell Rune brushes I got from DeviantArt, so the pentagram will do for now. Plus, it has some personal significance to me.

ike_ike · Nov 2, 2008

You don't need to use premade brushes for everything, y'know. Um. One of the main issues I see with your skins is that you have some sort of urge to make everything super smooth. The highlights and shadows et cetera are a bit too smoothly blended.

Grog50 · Nov 5, 2008

Chest is very awkward. The highlights and shading are just...off? If thats what your trying to do I suggest trying to do something else.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 5, 2008

ike_ike said:
You don't need to use premade brushes for everything, y'know. Um. One of the main issues I see with your skins is that you have some sort of urge to make everything super smooth. The highlights and shadows et cetera are a bit too smoothly blended.

Smoothness is what I need for this skin, as I need it to have sleek black metal. And if you guys really, want me to ditch this, I got a new concept Ill show you later today or tommorow.

Hawkwing · Nov 6, 2008

All of your skins that I've seen so far have been too smooth. You NEED to change that.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 6, 2008

Ok, heres a new demon skin I got the concept from a couple nights ago, the Sufferer of Sin.

I only have the front of the chest and the beard done right now. Im gonna be changing his necklace into chains. So, Im off to work on the face.

madcat2 · Nov 6, 2008

Looking nice dude what I suggest is adding some more detail on the front chest like battle scratches in the armor, unless your going for the new armor look. Also the beard needs some work its a little smooth right now.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 6, 2008

madcat2 said:
Looking nice dude what I suggest is adding some more detail on the front chest like battle scratches in the armor, unless your going for the new armor look. Also the beard needs some work its a little smooth right now.

Thats because its zoomed out, its really scratchy on the unwrap and on the portrait.

madcat2 · Nov 6, 2008

Elfsilver Lord said:
Thats because its zoomed out, its really scratchy on the unwrap and on the portrait.

Alright, then well any chance of getting a screen shot of the portrait?

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 7, 2008

madcat2 said:
Alright, then well any chance of getting a screen shot of the portrait?

Ok, here it is.

Oh, and I started working on the eyes, and they have the lost souly-emo kinda look I wanted, so yeah. The rest of the face is just blank, but here is teh portrait.

Hawkwing · Nov 7, 2008

Less definition on the chest, and more contrast in the hair. I gotta admit, this is a pretty badass skin. For you at least (;P). May we see the unwrap?

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 7, 2008

I just recolored the ear for now, but heres the unwrap.

I alpha-ed out from the dark black on to create a smoother look, btw.

Hawkwing · Nov 7, 2008

The technique you used to make the hair sucks, look at some of Warcraft III's already implemented textures.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 7, 2008

Hawkwing said:
The technique you used to make the hair sucks, look at some of Warcraft III's already implemented textures.

I just used a scratchy brush, trying to veer from the Insomnia techniques. I might change the beard to a horn actually.

Hawkwing · Nov 7, 2008

Oh yes. I was going to say that too. Use a bigger brush.

HappyTauren · Nov 7, 2008

Hawk, never say less definition, definition looks great in warcraft. As for the texture, it's really blurry, and shading is all wrong, as if you've had multiple light sources, also the beard looks awful, it needs more definition and better shading, and to collide with a face well. But oh well, it's a wip, still a lot of work left.

Hawkwing · Nov 7, 2008

HappyTauren said:
Hawk, never say less definition, definition looks great in warcraft.

Thick black outlines look good? Since when?

The answer is never.

HappyTauren · Nov 7, 2008

The answer is since always, this is wc3, not wow. Wc3 models are seen from bird perspective and it's bad without definition, when you simply jam everything and make smooth transitions. Anemic or I think Dusk explained this well somewhere.

Hawkwing · Nov 7, 2008

I don't mind if it's a thick dark red outline. But if it's a big black line bordering something like this it looks hideous.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 8, 2008

Yeah, new update, pants, some face, sword, and flag thingy.

Grog50 · Nov 9, 2008

The sword could use more highlights as it is metal. I think the armor needs more details in general. Also you could try to be a bit more creative than a pentagram. They are very cliche.

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 9, 2008

Ok, working on finishing it up.

Oh and Grog, the pentagram will have to do (CS3 Still not working)

Elfsilver Lord · Nov 16, 2008

OK, I was trying out shading spheres when I came up with this. The Hive Workshop's very own Christmas ornament.

Hawkwing · Nov 16, 2008

It's pretty nice, but I don't like the red outline around it. It could also use more/stronger highlights.