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Display an user's substandard resources at Resources tab

Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by Eagle XI, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. Eagle XI

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    Can we keep displaying bundles that ended up in the substandard bin at the posting account's Profile page's Resources Tab ? because right now have to log in, access profile page, view Postings tab and sift through posts on that list to find something residing in that section.
    Is substandard section an recycle bin or an proper section ? if its supposed to become the latter then why hide an resource in there at the first place.
     
  2. Ralle

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    I am not sure everyone would be happy with it. I am hiding them because I believe some people would feel embarrassed to have them show. Then again, they could just delete them I guess.

    Anyway, I am currently reworking the moderation system. I will revisit this when it's ready.
     
  3. deepstrasz

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    :D if two sections could be implemented under the Resources tab.
     
  4. Ralle

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    I think your wish will be granted. If people truly are embarrassed, I think they would delete the thing that embarrasses them anyway.
     
  5. Murlocologist

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    There is no option to delete it on new hive or am I missing something?
     
  6. Archian

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    Please for the love of all good things, do not delete any resources that you upload to this site. The word "Substandard" is misleading and will be changed to something much more fitting. Like for instance, "Useful Models".

    Only problem is, that section is a complete mess. We are currently working on a solution.

    And like Ralle said:

    So stay tuned guys!
     
  7. General Frank

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    If I see some models that got ripped from my models, I DO get embarrassed.
     
  8. Ralle

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    Yeah. Those should definitely be gone.
     
  9. General Frank

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    That would be fine. Also, it would be good to let the users decide whether they want their resources to be deleted if they don't like them personally.
     
  10. deepstrasz

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    I believe there's a way for that even though it's not a full delete. Basically you can replace the uploaded file with something else.
     
  11. General Frank

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    But that's bullshit.
    I know that posts are kinda belonging to Ralle, but resources should belong to the creators and to them only. It would be super shitty if you don't have the creative right and the intellectual property of something you worked on very hard.
     
  12. Murlocologist

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    I don't think substandard quality stuff should be protagonized to that degree to equal it with legit resources in user tab. Even though it may be useful, it is rule breaking this way or another. Every mod hosting websites draw the line at some point when it comes to standard of uploads. Because if they wouldn't, philosophy would be anything goes. Quantity would come before quality in theory.

    I also agree with @General Frank. When someone wants to remove content he created, for whatever reason, decision should be on him only.
     
  13. fladdermasken

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    Technically, users still decide. It's totally alright to put out a request to have your resources taken down. If you legitimately want to, we will make it happen. We just don't want it to be user-regulated to save us the trouble of having to manually restore them whenever somebody ragequits and makes a rash decision to pull all his/her resources, and then returns a day/week after and wants them back up. A huuuuge majority of all Staff Contact threads that request this end up with the user going back on the request after calming down a bit.
     
  14. Chaosy

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    Well my recent experience with deletion was annoying.
    I wanted to delete two of my maps, I could not find a delete button so I made an empty map named "DELETE THIS" and spammed the description with "xxxxxxxxx"

    A mod deleted it without me making a thread that way.

    As for displaying substandard - no. Please don't, at least not in the current state.
    There are some fairly good stuff in the substandard sections but there are also really shitty ones. Those are not exactly worthy of being displayed IMO.
     
  15. General Frank

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    That is totally understandable, but as I said the author should be in full control of his or her work, not just technically. I would be ashamed to see if a rouge mod or user uploads stuff that previously been deleted, even if it is for a very dumb reason. I know this is supposed to be a community and deleting is not good in the first place, but it should be noted that this is not a service the resource creators are giving to the community, it is their free time and passion they are spending, even if they just want to showcase soemthing they have made. I for myself can totally understand if someone wants to make down their stuff for good and I can understand if they want to reinstate them if they have calmed down.

    But if you are concerned or can't simply be bothered with the fact that users are unpredictable and can make stupid decisions just make the sytem idiot-proof and hassle-free. That way you will save both time and effort in the long run. This IS a community after all and the majority should lie in the hands of the active users, IMO.
     
  16. Chaosy

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    Just make the user to un-delete their own threads/submissions. That would solve the problem.
     
  17. Kyrbi0

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    I'm a big believer in this. Clean-up (& the necessary renaming) of the "Substandard" section is imminent and will be handled as necessary, but when I am looking for an artist's resources I want to find all of them; anything they haven't hidden via deletion, that is.
     
  18. deepstrasz

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    If they could separate the Substandard from the normal section under the Resources tab, why not?
    That's like partially giving moderator privileges :) Let's see if they can/will do it.
     
  19. Murlocologist

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    Reasoning for deleting stuff you made doesn't need to be even legitimate. You can do it just because. Your work - your decision. Website where you uploaded your work is a host and should only request for legit explanations from author when he asks for content he removed to be un-deleted and put back on.
    In my opinion, once you delete it, it is deleted. No re upload or bringing it back to submissions section.
    Equalizing low quality with standard resources wouldn't mind me if there was moderator rating to filter and separate them.
     
  20. deepstrasz

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    Yeah, but see, the website can be smart and say: "you want your stuff hosted here? Then we decide if it's to be deleted or not regardless of your complaints. Site's policy."