Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Catch_ya]

xD else it maybe wouldnt have been that good though coz you told me about you guys would make a new one FROM SCRATCH a few days ago and making a complete new Full screen equip system in 2-3 days isn't that long time

 

[CloudWolf]

Love the Khazre model However, its tad on the big size :/ Is there any way to lower it by say, 100kb? xD + a skin it will come to around 400kb which is huge for just one model :S

Awesome design though

 

[CHA_Owner]

CHA_Owner(NAMM)'s Review!

= Very Good
= Good
= Average
= Lacking
= Needs major improvement

Games Overall Idea =
Fun Gameplay =
Good Text/Descriptions =
No Glitches/Bugs/Etc. =
Good Life Amount System =
Awesome Camera Movement =
Cool Special Effects =
Custom Loading/Preview Screens =
Credits Given =
Low Lag Amount =

Alright overall i will give this map a 10/10

#1-I suggest that you maybe need to lower the amount of blood a little bit but thats all since this map is awesome

~Good Luck
CHA_Owner(NAMM)

 

[Catch_ya]

lol xD hm if you have a skinner in your team he might could make another skin for the khazre model ...

 

[redmarine]

= Very Good
= Good
= Average
= Lacking
= Needs major improvement

Games Overall Idea =
Fun Gameplay =
Good Text/Descriptions =
No Glitches/Bugs/Etc. =
Good Life Amount System =
Awesome Camera Movement =
Cool Special Effects =
Custom Loading/Preview Screens =
Credits Given =
Low Lag Amount =

Alright overall i will give this map a 10/10

#1-I suggest that you maybe need to lower the amount of blood a little bit but thats all since this map is awesome

~Good Luck
CHA_Owner(NAMM)

Lol'^^

 

[Vengeancekael]

lol i can't believe i did'nt give this map a review XD^^(will edit this post when i'm done)(pm me if i forget)
EditONE
Edit 2:Rating changed to 15.5/20
*Spoiler Alert*

5/5 for Perfect
4/5 for Really Good
3/5 for Good
2/5 for Fair
1/5 for Bad
0/5 for Horrible
For Overall Rating:
15 - 20 for Perfect/Excellent
10 - 15 for Really Good/Fair
05 - 10 for Bad/No fun
00 - 05 for Horrible/Disgusting

Story:-, no need to rate the story, since the map is based on the diablo 3 gameplay trailer.

Quests:-, not gonna rate the quests, since there's just one objective.

Combat:4/5, the combat is alot of fun, along with the powerful items, but it misses the hack'n slash style, but i'm sure you will be improving it alot

Sounds/effects/skills/Models/Skins:3.5/5, well the models are simply gorgeous, along with the effects and diablo music&sounds, but the spells....They're not the ones that were revealed. But the_silent is working on them, so i guess they will be added, soon.

Terrain:5/5, the terrain is just director's cut, Cloudwolf clearly is the best terrainer who i know. And everytime you update the map, you change the whole terrain, which is a plus

Gameplay/Fun factor3/5, well i guess it can be fun, when played with several other people, but the balance system makes the game extremely easy when there's just one player in the game. But the inventory system is really "diabloish", although it has more than 100 bugs. Also, the thousand pounder is weaker than that skeleton king, which is really confusing. He doesn't have alot of spells either, maybe 3 or 4.

Bugs/Hive Description:N/A, the hive description is acceptable. Now all the bugs in the map really kill the fun, so i would suggest you fix the bugs first before you add something new.

Overall:15.5/20, well that's a high rating. The map is overall alot of fun, but there isn't alot of "replay value". The things that kill the fun:
-Bugs
-The spells
-Bugs
-Difficulty
-Bugs

But when you have released v1.20, then it might actually be raised to 16 or 17/20. Good luck
15.5/20: Perfect
Comment: "...simply amazing..."

 

[D a w n]

Love the Khazre model However, its tad on the big size :/ Is there any way to lower it by say, 100kb? xD + a skin it will come to around 400kb which is huge for just one model :S

Awesome design though

the size of it could be reduced if he would linearize the animations(could be around 120 then)

 

[CloudMax]

= Very Good
= Good
= Average
= Lacking
= Needs major improvement

Games Overall Idea =
Fun Gameplay =
Good Text/Descriptions =
No Glitches/Bugs/Etc. =
Good Life Amount System =
Awesome Camera Movement =
Cool Special Effects =
Custom Loading/Preview Screens =
Credits Given =
Low Lag Amount =

Alright overall i will give this map a 10/10

#1-I suggest that you maybe need to lower the amount of blood a little bit but thats all since this map is awesome

~Good Luck
CHA_Owner(NAMM)

Why did that review make me smile?

 

[Vengeancekael]

Puhhh, finally, i'm finished with the review

 

[Craka_J]

That review wasn't completely correct:

• There are noticeable bugs, so that shouldn't get a 5/5.
• It's not as fun as it could be, so that shouldn't get a 5/5.
• The special effects are good, but blood falls into the category of special effects and it feels like they went overboard with it, so this shouldn't get a 5/5 just yet until it's used in a better fashion.

The rest seems accurate enough. Sorry for the negativity, but the review was over-positive than it should have been. It's a wonderful map, but isn't at its peak yet.

 

[Vengeancekael]

There are noticeable bugs, so that shouldn't get a 5/5.

I didn't even give a 5/5 for bugs-.-

It's not as fun as it could be, so that shouldn't get a 5/5.

i only gave a 5/5 to the terrain.
Edit:Well i guess i was overreacting, so i gave it a 15.5/20 XD

 

[Craka_J]

I was talking about CHA's review.

 

[redmarine]

I was talking about CHA's review.

You have to consider the fact that not everyone whom visit Hiveworkshop are good judgers. Some and mostly every player only judge from their experience playing the map and that's it. Thuss the overwhelming positive feedback lol.

You on the otherhand knows your stuff and know how to give proper feedbacks.

 

[Craka_J]

Lol, didn't mean to offend anyone if I did as I previously stated, I was just "correcting" the score. But yeah, I guess if it's based off of the person's experience it's understandable.

 

[redmarine]

Lol, didn't mean to offend anyone if I did as I previously stated, I was just "correcting" the score. But yeah, I guess if it's based off of the person's experience it's understandable.

It's not such a big deal^^

 

[Noobius]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah! It's finally out! ( just noticed)

 

[CloudWolf]

I'll probably have to release a 1.19b as I've just been informed of a major bug xD

Basically, if your fighting the trees at the end, and you lure them outside the boss arena before killing them, you get trapped outside after the Siegebreaker enters :S Somewhere along the line, the trigger that's meant to teleport you into it has broken without me realising

So basically, expect another quick-fix version soon

 

[redmarine]

Commence the update.

 

[CloudWolf]

Lol, didn't mean to offend anyone if I did as I previously stated, I was just "correcting" the score. But yeah, I guess if it's based off of the person's experience it's understandable.

haha no problem We need people like you to tell us the usefull stuff! When people say "10/10! Perfect Map" its a huge moral boost, however, it doesn't really help us That doesn't mean we don't like getting them though

I know exactly what you mean by your comments I'll see if I can reduce the blood amount a tad WILLTHEALMIGHTY also included some smaller blood effects in his pack so we could use those instead, and have a larger blood explosion every 3 - 4 deaths perhaps? what would you recommend?

Also, the main noticeable bug is probably our inventory system There's so much wrong with it its hardly worth having the custom one right now xD It's one of the reason we're planning to make something completely new for version 1.20

We're all open to suggestions for the new inventory

 

[Amigurumi]

and have a larger blood explosion every 3 - 4 deaths perhaps? what would you recommend?

well a nicer idea would be, whenever you kill an enemy, and you deal 3x times damage more the enemy has life left, before he dies, a blood effect comes. (3x times life could be changed). So you can see if the enemy was killed easily or it was killed normally.
The other way would maybe be, that if someone does a critical damage, but that's hard to do with triggers, because you can't query if a unit does crit damage. Don't know how it's in jass.
(These are only suggestions)

/edit oh, and maybe remove the corpse if the blood explosion appears, it looks odd, if the parts of the body fly away, and a normal, full corpse lies on the ground

 

[CloudWolf]

/edit oh, and maybe remove the corpse if the blood explosion appears, it looks odd, if the parts of the body fly away, and a normal, full corpse lies on the ground

I like the sound of that =] It's very simple to do as well

Right now we create a random number, and spawn a blood effect based on the random number generated. If say sfx[4] was a large explosion, I can just add a "Remove Triggering Unit" to that line of code

 

[redmarine]

I like the sound of that =] It's very simple to do as well

Right now we create a random number, and spawn a blood effect based on the random number generated. If say sfx[4] was a large explosion, I can just add a "Remove Triggering Unit" to that line of code

Seems like you know your stuff now.

 

[Amigurumi]

don't know how's the progress with the new inventory, but if you haven't started yet
maybe you could do it like in diablo 2? Well I don't know how it's going to be in diablo 3, but this gives a better feeling to the diablo genre.

Diablo 2 Inventory

only a suggestion. The borders aren't a must, but the weapon, armor, ... slots give the diablo 2 feeling, if you know what I mean

 

[redmarine]

don't know how's the progress with the new inventory, but if you haven't started yet
maybe you could do it like in diablo 2? Well I don't know how it's going to be in diablo 3, but this gives a better feeling to the diablo genre.

Diablo 2 Inventory

only a suggestion. The borders aren't a must, but the weapon, armor, ... slots give the diablo 2 feeling, if you know what I mean

Well, we could use the Diablo 3 inventory UI and use Diablo 2 weapon screenies as icons.

 

[Amigurumi]

I just saw this one

Diablo 3 Inventory

maybe you could copy things out (if it's allowed, not sure) and use it in this map.
then it would really look awesome

//edit now I've got your post, redmarine . Well that would be awesome^^

 

[redmarine]

I just saw this one

Diablo 3 Inventory

maybe you could copy things out (if it's allowed, not sure) and use it in this map.
then it would really look awesome

//edit now I've got your post, redmarine . Well that would be awesome^^

We're no longer considering using full screen inventory. It was huge, bulky and only caused problems and delayed the project considerably. In its current state it works but if we want to expand upon the map we seriously have to get rid of it.

 

[Amigurumi]

so what are you going to add instead of full screen inventory?

or, is that a surprise?

 

[redmarine]

so what are you going to add instead of full screen inventory?

or, is that a surprise?

Got no idea actually. Well, we're most likely going with some extreamtly simple and elegant. Something 'new' players will easily learn to use.

 

[chichichi1]

YOU MAPMAKERS ARE FUCKING GODS.......i should not be cussing but i cant emphasize enough how crazy this map is. It blows my balls...i thought i was playing the REAL D3 for a second in the game. W O W!. anywayz goodjob lmao

 

[Goliath]

Hey. I'm new here. Just stumbled across this mod the other day, and thought it looked amazing. I really badly want to try it out. But just one question...where do I go to download it?

 

[Amigurumi]

that's sad, I really wanted to see a fullscreen inventory. But well, you're right, it causes alot of pain and bugs.
But the only thing I ca think of a inventory with attaching, is to use the normal one, which is switchable.
But that costs much time (maybe not like a fullscreen).
But anyways, good luck on it!

 

[FrIkY]

1 suggestion and 3 typos:

1. typo: Chieftan Axe - Chieftain Axe
2. typo: Knights Garment - Knight's garment
3. typo: Somethings coming... - Something's coming... (I think that this is either Siege Breaker or Thousand Pounder)

Suggestion: A closer icon for Monk. All of them have their head showed, except the Monk, he has half of his body shown on the icon.

 

[Adiktuz]

I played 1.19 and wow, the terrain of the other versions are great but this one is much better. The enemies are now scaled with the number of players right? I really haven't finished it single player in the older versions without cheats but in this version the enemies are WEAKER when I played. You guys are so great.

 

[RoboHippo]

I love the map, but the camera is pretty choppy. Is there a way of fixing that?

I love the blood effects, by the way.

 

[Craka_J]

Actually, I think the camera's choppiness is due to the terrain. Because the terrain is so high and it is locked to your character, the camera would naturally fall when you cross a bridge or go up or down a hill/stairs. However, I'm assuming you guys tried to work around it by simply resetting the camera's height whenever the unit is crossing a bridge or whatever. This can cause the camera to seem to jump, from my experiences with Wc3:WoW in the past. It cannot be fixed completely to be seamless, you can only fix it to an extent. Although choppiness when walking on flat ground (terrain ground, not doodads) shouldn't cause any choppy errors...

 

[redmarine]

Actually, I think the camera's choppiness is due to the terrain. Because the terrain is so high and it is locked to your character, the camera would naturally fall when you cross a bridge or go up or down a hill/stairs. However, I'm assuming you guys tried to work around it by simply resetting the camera's height whenever the unit is crossing a bridge or whatever. This can cause the camera to seem to jump, from my experiences with Wc3:WoW in the past. It cannot be fixed completely to be seamless, you can only fix it to an extent. Although choppiness when walking on flat ground (terrain ground, not doodads) shouldn't cause any choppy errors...

I recommended that CloudWolf did some delays in the camera settings. This is meant to make things smooth so it won't be so choppy.

 

[Goliath]

Don't meen 2 b a pain, but no1 answered my querstion. Where do I actually go 2 download the map?

 

[RoboHippo]

I recommended that CloudWolf did some delays in the camera settings. This is meant to make things smooth so it won't be so choppy.

So, an "every .5 seconds, move camera to unit over .5 seconds" sort of thing, then?

Also, is the camera's z axis based on the unit? That could increase choppiness on stairs and such.

 

[redmarine]

So, an "every .5 seconds, move camera to unit over .5 seconds" sort of thing, then?

More like for every 0.01 second [Timer] the camera will move over 0.05 seconds. :O

Perhaps that could smoothen things up since a lot of people have pretty good Frame Rates meaning that the current camera failed and made the map chopp like crazy.

Also, is the camera's z axis based on the unit? That could increase choppiness on stairs and such.

Well, in theory if we used the method above things should work just nicely.

 

[Vercas]

Every 1/60=0.1(6) seconds move the camera over 1/50=0.02 seconds and it will be perfect. I've tested it on version 1.17 and it's much smoother.

 

[CloudWolf]

Every 1/60=0.1(6) seconds move the camera over 1/50=0.02 seconds and it will be perfect. I've tested it on version 1.17 and it's much smoother.

However, every 0.1 secs causes the camera to desync and mess up if you minimise xD No idea why, but it was a common issue that made the map unplayable for several people

I've adjusted it to ever 0.02 secs now, and have made the duration for the z axis change over 0.05 secs, and its a lot smoother now

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Well 1 or 2 pages ago I posted a solution that doesn't require a lot performance at all and provides complete smooth camera vision because the camera is locked to the target by the standard way. The only thing that's adjusted now is the height and I do that in a 0.02 sec timer. [And yeah, it's flawless and works for me as I'm actually using it].

So *if you want* I could try to implant that for you. Stopping the camera for cinematics would still be easy.

 

[CloudWolf]

Well 1 or 2 pages ago I posted a solution that doesn't require a lot performance at all and provides complete smooth camera vision because the camera is locked to the target by the standard way. The only thing that's adjusted now is the height and I do that in a 0.02 sec timer. [And yeah, it's flawless and works for me as I'm actually using it].

So *if you want* I could try to implant that for you. Stopping the camera for cinematics would still be easy.

Don't worry We've made some chanegs and it works perfectly now Thanks for the offer though

 

[Vengeancekael]

Lol you jumped from 3.8mb to 5mb XD

 

[CloudWolf]

Lol you jumped from 3.8mb to 5mb XD

Dont worry That extra space was well-used

you'll notice all the new hi-res skins which improve the graphics immensly

 

[redmarine]

Lol you jumped from 3.8mb to 5mb XD

It wouldn't surprise me if he jumped from 5 MB to 6 for version 1.20. ;P

 

[BloodSoul]

Congratulations, CloudWolf!
I love this map!

 

[Vengeancekael]

Dont worry That extra space was well-used

you'll notice all the new hi-res skins which improve the graphics immensly

Yeah i already noticed them and the new wd model
Edit:Hmm that was a quick update^^

 

[Ciebron]

My game crash when i pick a character :/

 

[CloudWolf]

My game crash when i pick a character :/

lol soz, I just uploaded a quick-fix, but it appears to break.... im trying to fix it now xD

EDIT: Should be fixed now I forgot to delete a redeundant trigger which caused an infinite loop xD hense the crash