Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[Darkholme]

Maybe. Presently drops dont scale to the players, and are solely monster based. However, that may be an expansion worth implementing.

 

[saphiree]

Yeah, it would be nice, but when it was harder there should just be more monster drops.

 

[hunalexnl]

The Orb drops depend on what you're fighting, the difficulty level has nothing to do with it. IFRC the drop rate for the crappiest ghouls in the map is 1 in 25. I believe it goes up a bit for tougher monsters.

So when you got to harder monsters, you raised the drop rate by decreasing the scale, right? Like random number between 1 and 20... So if you wanted more drops, you'd have to decrease that number even more, depending on difficuly I guess...

 

[.LsD]

It is a cool map ... 10/10
Thumbs Up ;D

 

[hunalexnl]

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EDIT: is it just me or is this thread getting weirder and weirder?

Aren't we supposed to give you feedback on what there should/shouldn't be in the map? And aren't you guys supposed to talk about how far you have gotten with your part? Because as I've seen in the last few pages, that's what we all have been doing.

 

[CloudMax]

Aren't we supposed to give you feedback on what there should/shouldn't be in the map? And aren't you guys supposed to talk about how far you have gotten with your part? Because as I've seen in the last few pages, that's what we all have been doing.

That is what we have our forum for.

It is here you say stuff like "i tried the map and its awesome, keep it up" or "this map is not that good, i dont understand how so much people can like it".

Its in the forum we give ideas, talk about the future of the project and such things, when people post here i, aswell as the other people in the crew, might miss the posts.

 

[redmarine]

Aren't we supposed to give you feedback on what there should/shouldn't be in the map? And aren't you guys supposed to talk about how far you have gotten with your part? Because as I've seen in the last few pages, that's what we all have been doing.

I was referring to the page counter.

LTGH, is right regarding that one. Most project related discussions are our forums.

 

[hunalexnl]

I was referring to the page counter.

LTGH, is right regarding that one. Most project related discussions are our forums.

Aha, okay, then I'll stop talking crap and let others tell their opinions.

 

[Haxxors]

Cloudwolf, I must say I am completely blown away by the detail of the terraining in this map.

But I must ask, How do you create the raised platforms and then that seemingly endless black abyss at the bottom? The best example would probably be the bridge screenshot. The bridge is there, but the sides so so far down and are so black. It is amazing!

 

[Super-Sheep]

Raise/lower tool with modified miscdata.txt that allows 80-something cliff levels.

Create new folder into your wc3 folder and name it UI then add this file into UI folder http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=9dekyp

 

[Haxxors]

So i just paste that into a word doc and put it in that folder>

 

[redmarine]

So i just paste that into a word doc and put it in that folder>

Text format with the .txt extension.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Its known as NOTEPAAAD.

 

[1st_Vampire]

this is a really cool map, but with the sorceress you can kill the buildings that are down below..

 

[redmarine]

this is a really cool map, but with the sorceress you can kill the buildings that are down below..

CloudWolf, now you got a reason to make those invulnerable.

 

[CloudMax]

CloudWolf, now you got a reason to make those invulnerable.

I have already told him thousend times since 1.08.
He wants them to be vulneruable for some reason

 

[NisNamanArhat]

Hey CloudWolf how are you able to put just one start location (orange) even though there are more players? I'm trying to make a map based on Diablo gameplay but I don't know how put just one start location. When I save the map, the map randomly generates start locations for all players. I just started on the map by the way.

 

[JakeCake]

Hey CloudWolf how are you able to put just one start location (orange) even though there are more players? I'm trying to make a map based on Diablo gameplay but I don't know how put just one start location. When I save the map, the map randomly generates start locations for all players. I just started on the map by the way.

Go to the Intialization trigger, and delete (Melee - Create Starting units)
And then just place all the start-locations in top of each other, then at last only one color will show .. That's how I'll do it

 

[CloudMax]

Hey CloudWolf how are you able to put just one start location (orange) even though there are more players? I'm trying to make a map based on Diablo gameplay but I don't know how put just one start location. When I save the map, the map randomly generates start locations for all players. I just started on the map by the way.

Put them all on the same place? :O
And it doesnt make any difference if they are random generated or not? :S

 

[NisNamanArhat]

Okay thanks. =D

 

[Darkholme]

Hey Redmarine. OK My idea to fix the boss hp issues didn't pan out. I'm open to your suggestion if you could explain it, and if that doesn't work, I was thinking maybe global variable arrays for each boss, and calculate the values whenever the difficulty is changed, then compare against the variables.
Lemme know what you think.

 

[redmarine]

Hey Redmarine. OK My idea to fix the boss hp issues didn't pan out. I'm open to your suggestion if you could explain it, and if that doesn't work, I was thinking maybe global variable arrays for each boss, and calculate the values whenever the difficulty is changed, then compare against the variables.
Lemme know what you think.

Sounds like a plan. To be honest I'm not sure if this will work but in theory it sounds promising.

Okay first of all every boss trigger that contain health events must have their events removed. I would like those events to be added after your triggers have set the difficulty and health cap.

Basically once the difficulty system of yours has been executed we would add the events using the event adding action.

• Trigger - Add to SK Inferno 1 <gen> the event (Unit - |cff8000ffSkeleton King|r 0047 <gen>'s life becomes Less than (0.86 x (Max life of |cff8000ffSkeleton King|r 0047 <gen>)))

This is just an idea.

 

[Darkholme]

ah. I don't think that will work if the error is what I think it is. The issue I've been having is that the event is NEVER executed, not that it happens early.

Your solution would work to avoid the trigger being set off outside of the actual boss fight, though it might be easier to just turn off the trigger and turn it on when the players enter the boss area.

 

[redmarine]

ah. I don't think that will work if the error is what I think it is. The issue I've been having is that the event is NEVER executed, not that it happens early.

Your solution would work to avoid the trigger being set off outside of the actual boss fight, though it might be easier to just turn off the trigger and turn it on when the players enter the boss area.

That's actually a good idea. Lets do that.

EDIT: The thread counter has been fixed! BuYJA!

 

[vegetation]

Well... I don't know if it is normal but when i get to the skeleton king, well hes in my team...

 

[CloudWolf]

Well... I don't know if it is normal but when i get to the skeleton king, well hes in my team...

were you perhaps playing with the "whosyourdaddy" command on, and managed to kill the ghost form of the Skeleton king through the door? IF so, that will cause the bug to happen

Ive made sure the SK is out of range for v1.18 so it cant happen

If not, then im not entirely sure what went wrong lol :S

 

[redmarine]

were you perhaps playing with the "whosyourdaddy" command on, and managed to kill the ghost form of the Skeleton king through the door? IF so, that will cause the bug to happen

Ive made sure the SK is out of range for v1.18 so it cant happen

If not, then im not entirely sure what went wrong lol :S

That's definitely not a generic problem.

Well, how is the debugging progress coming along?

 

[Diamond-Golem]

Great job on the map!

I was wondering if someone could help me out with the posting and what not but CloudWolf... i have some ideas to help the game to be more like D3
1 - The "Gnarled Walkers" Have this bright green blood thing in the trailer
so my idea is that first you put a special effect on them of the
blighted mist to glow green and when they are struck make a green
effect on them
2 - Set difficulty levels depending on how many people are playing that
way you can solo the dungeon with any class basically (it would just
be hard) or have a fullhouse and not fly through it by just doing
massive amounts of damage
3 - Make a set to the items you can wear kind of like you already have
but like the one in "Magic and Mayhem" or w/e (if you know what im
talkin about) that way your inventory isn't just limited to to pieces
of armour and you don't have to decide between potions and
rings/necklaces
P.S. i hope i don't sound like i'm hating on your map, im not, just those are some ideas...

 

[CloudMax]

What about dissable the cheats like iseedeadpeople and whosyourdaddy? that can cause bugs and that destroys the part where your suppost to explore the map.

 

[redmarine]

Thread bug.

I can't see your post LTGH.

 

[saphiree]

Well. He said this:

What about dissable the cheats like iseedeadpeople and whosyourdaddy? that can cause bugs and that destroys the part where your suppost to explore the map.

And i kinda agree. People going through with whosyourdaddy i personally think, are n00bs, no offense
The iseedeadpeople, does it really matter when you have a locked cam? If you really wanna make it explore able, then make ondiscovered areas black That would be awesome

 

[redmarine]

Well. He said this:



And i kinda agree. People going through with whosyourdaddy i personally think, are n00bs, no offense
The iseedeadpeople, does it really matter when you have a locked cam? If you really wanna make it explore able, then make ondiscovered areas black That would be awesome

What we could do is to pause all ingame units until the cheats are deactivated. It is as simple as that.

I'm on it.

 

[CloudMax]

What we could do is to pause all ingame units until the cheats are deactivated. It is as simple as that.

I'm on it.

Cant we just dissable the cheats somehow? Like making the player say the cheat twice so it gets deactivated?
Or isnt it possible to just turn them off entierly?

 

[saphiree]

Not in single player i guess...

 

[redmarine]

Cant we just dissable the cheats somehow? Like making the player say the cheat twice so it gets deactivated?
Or isnt it possible to just turn them off entierly?

It's not possible. But we can restricts the player's hero from ever killing anything using that cheat code. The reason I'd like to see this single anti-cheat code is to prevent trigger malfunction and exploitation.

 

[Diamond-Golem]

It is possible with a few triggers.... If the player says "whosyourdaddy" force him to say it again like LTGH said. I know how to do this so if you need any help just ask.

 

[redmarine]

I and LTGH were just playing your map from yesterday and we found quite a lot of problems and areas need of improvements.

Prepair to fix lots of stuff!

• The chests should die by 1 hit.
• At the start of the map when you cross the first bridge and go to the right bridge the time of the map changes to day. Fix please.
• Inventory Units are not placed correctly. This makes the icons look out of place. LTGH can have the honour to fix this himself.
• Healing/mana globes should always heal around 20-40% of the heroes' health cap. This means it has to be triggered. I could do this if you'd like.
• The water around Shadow Creature should be raised by one notch to prevent the flashing.
• When players get teleported to the skeleton king they should be teleported at the gate and give them a moment to rest. This opportunity could also let them do strategic planning before engaging the skeleton king.
• During our fight against the skeleton king our camera glitches. We're not sure what caused this glitch but we'll have to incorporate a trigger to reactivate it if it does happen again. We should search for the problem though. I'll try to fix this.

 

[CloudMax]

LTGH can have the honour to fix this himself.

Really? Thanks. I guess? xD lol

During our fight against the skeleton king our camera glitches when we paused. We're not sure what caused this glitch but we'll have to incorporate a trigger to reactivate it if it does happen again.

I think its caused when you pause the game, i havent tried it yet though.

I need to create a system to spawn all equipped items so other players can get them. I'll get on this.

Correction:
I need to create a system to spawn all equipped items that a a player has when he dies (entierly) or leaves the game so other players can get them. I'll get on this.
>This will not work after adding the save/load so it should only be temporary becouse otherwise you can dupe your items! (Binds when saving?)

 

[redmarine]

>This will not work after adding the save/load so it should only be temporary becouse otherwise you can dupe your items! (Binds when saving?)

I've already finished the drop system.

To prevent that we could disable the function for a specific player if the player types -save/load.

 

[saphiree]

Another little comment here. The mana globes, i dont really remember their name XD Is it restoration, or something? Well the white/blue ones. They also give nearby barbarians mana, which is pretty not good, as they have a maximum of 10 mana XD So they just gets fully loaded

 

[redmarine]

Another little comment here. The mana globes, i dont really remember their name XD Is it restoration, or something? Well the white/blue ones. They also give nearby barbarians mana, which is pretty not good, as they have a maximum of 10 mana XD So they just gets fully loaded

Don't worry about that. In version 1.18 barbarians have a mana(rage) cap about the same as the other heroes.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Or just make the mana globes not to work for Barbarians. It doesnt make any sense anyway.

 

[redmarine]

Or just make the mana globes not to work for Barbarians. It doesnt make any sense anyway.

It might be interesting factor to include it. Barbarians could use potions or somekind of mana replenisher to restore their mana(rage) in case they go low on it in a boss fight.

But as always CloudWolf has the last word.

 

[Ranger21]

Guys, you still using triggersleepaction at v1.18?

Replace them with timers, get some attach system to timers (Which work with arrays, not CACHE).

triggersleepaction cause bugs with pause on

 

[CloudMax]

Guys, you still using triggersleepaction at v1.18?

Replace them with timers, get some attach system to timers (Which work with arrays, not CACHE).

triggersleepaction cause bugs with pause on

Triggersleepaction cause bugs with pause on + They have delay.
I always use timers in my maps even if its 0.01sec or not.
Becouse if a player pause the game at that 0.01sec, the game totally fuck up.

 

[CloudWolf]

About the mana globes

Its definately a possibility to make them not work for the barbarian. However, remember this is only warcraft 3, we dont want to make things too complicated for our players

Whilst "technically" the barbarian uses rage, the player will still see it as Mana, so things could get a little confusing there

I think for the time being its probably best just to allow the barbarian to pickup mana globes for ease of use

 

[saphiree]

Lol XD So barbarian can just get full rage (^^) cus those. It wouldnt be that hard a trigger to prevent it would it?

 

[CloudMax]

Lol XD So barbarian can just get full rage (^^) cus those. It wouldnt be that hard a trigger to prevent it would it?

Thats not the point.
Read what he said twice.
It would be to confusing for newbies to play then becouse they dont know how the rage works.
And this is warcraft 3 after all.
+ it will heal by % later insted of a specefic value so it wont get imba.

 

[saphiree]

Yeah ok XD 10% would be 1 rage then. I guess thats fair enough

 

[CloudMax]

Yeah ok XD 10% would be 1 rage then. I guess thats fair enough

He also said that the barbarian will have a normal amount of mana/rage
In the closed version i had, barbarian got 210 mana

and 10% is like nothing, they are suppost to replace potions, so they should give like 35-40%.