Decay Bone Animation Bug

[Dispatcher]

Hey guys. I need your help in solving this unit's decay bone problem. The decay bone bug may not appear in magos and retera but the bug appears in the WE. Can someone know how to solve this model's decay bone bug?

 

[tillinghast]

i think this bug happens when there's less geoset extents than animations or if there's vertices not attached to bones
however recalculating extents didn't help and all vertices seem attached otherwise mdlvis would have a fit
maybe the person who approved this model could help @General Frank

 

[General Frank]

I worked flawlessly when I approved it 2 years ago.

 

[Dispatcher]

So... What exactly is the problem of this model? And if there is a solution to it.

 

[Hermit]

maybe the person who approved this model could help

Moderators generally don't care about those things. As you can see on the original thread, someone already said there's a problem with the decay animation, but the model still got approved.

I know there have been many resources that got approved even though I reported something wrong with them.

 

[General Frank]

Moderators generally don't care about those things. As you can see on the original thread, someone already said there's a problem with the decay animation, but it still got approved.

I know there have been many resources that got approved even though I reported something wrong with them.

Hey that's very mean and gross to say. The reviewers and mods do the job and we are just humans after all. No need to point fingers and be so bitter and vile.
Also, many models started breaking after reforged came out.
I test every model that I moderate and see if it works.

Please don't put all your blame on the people moderating and approving it.

So... What exactly is the problem of this model? And if there is a solution to it.

It seems there are way too little geoset animations. I could try something.
Also, for future reference, please link the model that you are referring to and not just attach it to a thread. You make life much easier doing so.

EDIT: This should work.

 

[Dispatcher]

EDIT: This should work.

Thank you so much, @General Frank! And sorry for causing to all the trouble.

 

[General Frank]

Thank you so much, @General Frank! And sorry for causing to all the trouble.

Don't worry, you where not the one causing unnecessary bullshit and trouble. Just link the original model thread next time.

Some people tried to help, others just lamented over how they could do better, but won't help.

 

[tillinghast]

during "decay bone" parts of the tails, wings and jaw get snapped/attached to closest units around based on the order they were placed in the worldedit?
i managed to fix it by simply attaching these vertices to a different bone and then reattaching it back to the correct ones
why and how did this happen?

 

[General Frank]

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during "decay bone" parts of the tails, wings and jaw get snapped/attached to closest units around based on the order they were placed in the worldedit?
i managed to fix it by simply attaching these vertices to a different bone and then reattaching it back to the correct ones
why and how did this happen?

There were always problems when vertices are attached to matrices that refer to helpers and not bones.

 

[tillinghast]

There were always problems when vertices are attached to matrices that refer to helpers and not bones.

so it requires fiddling in notepad or in those scary magos menus? does there exist a one-click way to fix it a-la "recalculate extents" in matrix eater/rms? i tried loktar's model optimizer and it didn't help

 

[General Frank]

The only sure way to solve it is to use notepad.
But you can try to change the helpers into bones, but that won't solve the problem.

 

[loktar]

In my experience bugs like this seem to be caused by bone geoset animation data. It's not a perfect solution, but setting each bone's geoset animation to none seems to have worked for me in the past.

 

[tillinghast]

@loktar you mean these things? i thought they did nothing (maybe it's just a bug in magos though)

 

[loktar]

Yeah, not sure what it's actually for, but it seems to cause these kinds of bugs when it's not setup correctly.