Cruiser Command v0.93g

[TKF]

Thanks, but I tried to make the bot behave like yuchinin descibed and hopes it's way better than before, when I tested, the robot messed less than before and did refine what he did put into the refinery 95% of the times. I hope you like the improved AI in 0.82c, although it isn't very good it should be better than in all older version.

When a cruiser dies, it will now cause explosion damage (might cause the other cruiser to explode)
Reduced the cost of fighters laser blast from 5500gw to 4500gw
Also nerfed the fighters laser blast damage a bit according to energy cost reduction
Rebalanced the laser weapons damage vs cruisers, nerfing burst and fighter laser
Slightly buffed the cruiser laser beam so 2 beam rounds is now slightly stronger than 3 bursts
Reduced the cruiser beam count from 8 to 6 for each shot (buffed 33% accordingly)
Cerebeus shield system will now also drain some core when recovering shield
Fixed a bug related to the replicator that caused the core to always display 100%
Fixed a miner stop bug that made all vessels stop in space suddenly
Fixed a bug that could cause the miners turbo trail to not disappear
Fixed an info bug that showed your station as destroyed instead of recovered
Fixed a cooldown bug with inertial nullifier
Reworked the refining pathing AI so it should pickup the refined minerals first
Turned off a AI debugging system near refinery which made it often drop items

The changes for 0.82c is laser balancing, stalemate possibility and some bugfixing. I think i exploited the mysterious instant core meltdown bug, but it was related to the replicator. It should be 100% safe now to use all its abilities.

As for vessels skills located within a spellbook, it seems you cannot stop it's cooldown so I reduced the cooldowns a bit instead.



I've sent 0.82c to callex so it should be uploaded as soon as he logs in. (Tomorrow most likely)

Edit_

Ok, it seems like it will be released later on 9 December or 10 December.

Due to technical difficulties, 0.82c it will be updated 10 December.

 

[UberPWN]

http://www.epicwar.com/maps/156084/

Its also official map?

 

[TKF]

http://www.epicwar.com/maps/156084/

Its also official map?

Yes that's official.

When I send the map to Callex, I do also upload it on epicwar. But it seems like only 1 of 5 downloads it from epicwar compared to hiveworkshop it from epicwar nowdays. But you can't give comments on epicwar unfortunately.


Edit_


I've sent 0.82d to Callex. Some critical bugs and few changes. It will be uploaded very soon.

A proximity alarm should alert your if the enemy cruiser is close to your cruiser
Slightly nerfed the yamato cannons damage vs hull
Fixed a mismatched location bug which affected the refinery robots on cruiser 2
Nerfed the insane power drain from the overpowered yamato cannon
Fixed a vessel power failure bug

It should be released today (11 december).

Edit_

Fixed a fatal annoying bug with proximity alarm
Properly fixed the annoying perma vessel power failure bug upon death
Readjusted a core damage event on cruiser when taking fatal hits

This should be released asap I made a mistake in 0.82d! I was a bit slow finding the cause and didn't send it to him in time when he was uploading d version. Hopefully it will be uploaded soon.

 

[JenDarK]

Bug

Bug:
The force of vessels have changed to enemy and i could change vessel to mediv crowform....

 

[UberPWN]

Join Clan CC on Northrend!

TKF already joined!

And hang out in channel clan cc if you are looking for cc host.

For good players - invitations to clan.

Learning about ghost, so mb there will be bots. AeroniumX already hosting bot.

Any way TKF, can you add info about clan in loading screen? However you will not see it, clan is small contribution to map propagation, so helping clan, you will make map moar popular... Hope so =)
Especially that its not very popular map, not as it should be, and finding fellow players is very hard for most time. TBH i seen in past week just 1 host, that wasnt mine or my friends. So if pps who like cc will hang out in room, they will have easier times to find fellow players - in general - and not as nuby as random nub, host CC moar often, moar nubz will join map&learn about it and host and some will join clan, some will abbadon CC and so so so on =)

 

[TKF]

There is a cruiser command clan on Northrend now, so if you wanna join contact UberPWN. Clan CC.



So far I haven't found any new bugs yet, so I will go on and plan new features. I'm going to look over the resource costs of upgrades cuz somehow getting -1 nontrium shouldn't be possible. If you found another bugs let me know.

 

[Savant]

Awesome map.

2 Suggestions:
1) Add a tractor beam, it would be a one shot like the yamato, and it would slow the other BC.

2) Add a way to unload missiles.

 

[Yuzhy]

Hey awesome map!

Lately I've found a bug where sometimes people get stuck after using a console such as the molecular constructor. Like you can be clicking through the menus and they work fine 90% of the time but sometimes (I'm not sure why it happens) but suddenly the menus go blank and there's no way for you to get out of the console. Even if you die or leave the game, or fiddle with the privileges from the bridge there is no way for anyone else to use that console.

It would be great if you could build in a text based command people can type (eg. -unstuck) or something to help remedy this?

 

[TKF]

Hey awesome map!

Lately I've found a bug where sometimes people get stuck after using a console such as the molecular constructor. Like you can be clicking through the menus and they work fine 90% of the time but sometimes (I'm not sure why it happens) but suddenly the menus go blank and there's no way for you to get out of the console. Even if you die or leave the game, or fiddle with the privileges from the bridge there is no way for anyone else to use that console.

It would be great if you could build in a text based command people can type (eg. -unstuck) or something to help remedy this?

I've never experienced this. Have you tried reselect your worker, or F8? If that doesn't work, -afk command has a debug function into it regarding consoles into it which should solve this issue.

If that doesn't work either a trigger lagg has occurred and some functions failed to run which should unpause the crew member and remove the console interface.

 

[k13k]

when two players access the cargo controller, we both lost control of cargo and stacked

 

[TKF]

when two players access the cargo controller, we both lost control of cargo and stacked

Can you specify which controllers it is? 1 Molecular and 1 wing console? I cannot see why it should conflict, its just that the wing console doesn't get the update until you exit and reenter it again.


Edit_

Savant:
I've considered tractor beam but it will not be added at this time. Unloading missiles is nearly impossible in the way missile loading system is created in the map, it requires very much work to add it so I will not add this now.

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I'm going to release 0.83 tomorrow. It will have 1 new big feature. Also a few bugfixes. But still it needs multiplayer testings to check if something is bugged or not.

I will deal with more bugs in 0.83b as I couldn't find the source of latest reported bugs yet. But a new version number change indicates new features, while only a letter feature mostly bugfixes.

ADDED A NEW CONSOLE: - BEING REVEALED -
Added a AFK dialog which appears when you are in AFK mode (more noobfriendly).
Fixed a bug with stalemate victory condition not working when both cruiser explode

 

[Daveydude]

I have found the refining droid to be useless. It merely picks up items and drops them again.
May I suggest in order to fix the droid you lessen its capabilities by making it so that it only takes items from the cargo pads and the end of the refinery. This would at least reduce the number of problems that can occur.

 

[k13k]

second ship's molecular and right wing console

Can you specify which controllers it is? 1 Molecular and 1 wing console? I cannot see why it should conflict, its just that the wing console doesn't get the update until you exit and reenter it again.


Edit_

Savant:
I've considered tractor beam but it will not be added at this time. Unloading missiles is nearly impossible in the way missile loading system is created in the map, it requires very much work to add it so I will not add this now.

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I'm going to release 0.83 tomorrow. It will have 1 new big feature. Also a few bugfixes. But still it needs multiplayer testings to check if something is bugged or not.

I will deal with more bugs in 0.83b as I couldn't find the source of latest reported bugs yet. But a new version number change indicates new features, while only a letter feature mostly bugfixes.

ADDED A NEW CONSOLE: - BEING REVEALED -
Added a AFK dialog which appears when you are in AFK mode (more noobfriendly).
Fixed a bug with stalemate victory condition not working when both cruiser explode

 

[TKF]

Weird, the refinery AI worked pretty well when I tested it in the editor, but only alone. So far in games it hasn't bugged so much it was totally useless. I'll see what I can do with it.

I will look closer on the wing consoles and see if there is any bugs related to it.



As for 0.83, it will be released later today.

ADDED A NEW CONSOLE: ENERGY WEAPON CONSOLE
The new console features 4 new torpedoes: Plasma, Photon, Energy and Lightning
The new console can now strengthen the shot of each overcharged laser significantly
Added a AFK dialog which appears when you are in AFK mode (more noobfriendly).
A cruiser will get a warning message when wasp missiles does quite much overload
Decreased the cruiser proximity warning alert range by 15%
Fixed a bug that could cause you to get negative nontrium values when doing cruiser upgrades
Fixed a bug with stalemate victory condition not working when both cruiser explode
Fixed a bug that caused an officer if promoted to captain to retain old rank

It will be uploaded the 16 December!

So I can get feedback on newest additions by then.

Added a new turret fire mode: Plasma Shots (You must have energy based weapons console)
Each Plasma round costs 1500 turret energy
Made some adjustments to the latest energy weapons, both nerf and buffs
Removed the abilties events which causes leaks and laggs
Fixed a realtime loading bug for the new energy weapons console
Fixed a deselection bug with the newest console

A small update will also apply, in according to unreleased 0.83. 0.83b will be released instead.

 

[LumZor]

Amazing Map

 

[GoblinShoD]

I am a true fan of the map, love playing it.
I was just thinking that it sucks that the map never gets hosted, and if it does get hosted no one joins. But guess what I saw? A CC Clan! Wicked!

I drop in sometimes to check on the updates, but so far I've not seen the following:

-Have you considered adding a "restart" after the game ends? It sucks that we have to rehost the map after every map. I am a newb mapper myself, so I imagine that restarting the entire map might cause some problems. But, do consider it if it's possible.

Keep up the good work!

 

[Yuzhy]

Regarding v0.83b, there's seems to be a bug where the mining station's constructor fails to disappear after completing the mining station - this only occurs when you deploy your 2nd mining station, not your 1st (not sure about deploying more).

Even after retrieving both mining stations (the constructor for the 2nd one you deployed remains in space).

When I redeploy both, again the 2nd one's constructor does not disappear.

 

[TKF]

Regarding v0.83b, there's seems to be a bug where the mining station's constructor fails to disappear after completing the mining station - this only occurs when you deploy your 2nd mining station, not your 1st (not sure about deploying more).

Even after retrieving both mining stations (the constructor for the 2nd one you deployed remains in space).

When I redeploy both, again the 2nd one's constructor does not disappear.

I will take a look on that later.

Regarding the wing console bug, I couldn't find the source which lead it to hang up. Also it's impossible to test it alone, so a more useful and detailed description about what happens if that bug should occur, would be a great help since it co-work with a lot of functions and so far it's a needle in a haystack.




Heres my short view on the currently added console upgrades. I've finished the energy category.

Consoles:

Energy Based Weapons Console:
I will await big updates and currently fix if there is any bugs related to this new console, and maybe further balancing is needed, since it's difficult to balance high energy based weapons. That does also apply to the 3rd fire mode for the cruiser turrets when it comes to the energy based weapons console upgrade. Currently the energy torpedo weapons do cost quite some bit energy and does damage accordingly. Overcharged laser is still a slightly better since it's one of the cruiser main weapons and this consoles has the ability of increasing it's strength by 100% for each amplification. Your opinions on the different torpedoes strengths and weaknesses on this might be useful.

Advantages:
-Gives stronger offensive capabilities
-Cruiser Turrets have plasma fire mode, lethal vs hull
-Good way to use extra energy when cruiser is full
Disadvantages:
-It's just supplementary weapons for the cruiser
-Tend to drain the cruisers energy pretty fast when used a lot in a short time



Cerberus Shield Console: Regarding the balancing of different console disadvantages and advantages, it seems like shield system seems to be very strong and often the cruiser with this upgrade wins, which I must implement more weaknesses to it, since it's only weakness atm is to overpower it with overwhelming firepower, which you might not have at all times. I'm considering slowing it quick recovery rate which makes the current energy reserves as instant shield capacity. I might also consider other options as well.

Advantages:
-Gives your cruiser a very strong defensive shield capability
-Very difficult to break through the shield
-When it shield is at same level as shield power, 50% will divert to energy reserves
Disadvantages:
-Greatly strains the core health and energy reserves when getting lots of hits



Mass Replicator Console: As the weakest seems to the replicator, and I might need to add a new ability to is to make it more tempting to build. Although it's most useful in games with shortages of minerals, I think it's not chosen as it lacks offensive and defensive functions.

Advantages:
-Creates the minerals you lack for a sum of energy
Disadvantages:
-Doesn't provide your cruiser with any tactical abilties except for hull replication
-Tends to eat up your energy quickly when being used to mass produce minerals



Anti Matter Core - Energy Console: Anti Matter core gives you huge defensive emergency defense and offensive strike power capabilities which is kinda 1 shot moves, critical to tip the scale in critical situations. However it's the only console which can quickly counter core dropfall and repair it by decreased the core energy output to recover energy quickly. It does give you a sick energy capacity, making you much more resistance to the energy drain effects of energy weapons. I find this balanced atm since it's the most expensive consoles and does deliver what it's worth imo. It requires a delicate touch to handle this and a miss with overpowered yamato (with additonal 200000gw stored into it) is fatal, but it's able to almost able to cause a very lethal blow. But giving the cruiser the ability to also take benefit from the vessels energy production, has kinda made this console less useful than before when it comes to energy production.

Advantages:
-Gives a high energy production and energy capacity
-Provides the possibility to recover the core health quickly
-It has both a strong offensive function (Yamato) and Defensive (Teraflop Shields)
Disadvantages:
-Making a miss with its high cost abilities is very bad
-It lack capabilities which cost little energy

 

[Mega.Brother]

Played a game where this odd bug occured. Lots of refined Nontrium(stacked 1/100) spawned in the controll room. I don't really know what caused it cos we noticed it way too late, but my guess is too much refining and not storing the refined minerals caused lack of space which forced newly refined minerals to spawn elsewhere.

Screenshot here

Sorry if this was reported earlier.

on a sidenote: You're doing a great job on the map, Cruiser Command is without a doubt my best gaming experience ever.
Also thanks to Clan CC, before you guys it would go months between games. Lets hope this map gets the recognition it truly deserves.

 

[GoblinShoD]

Played a game where this odd bug occured. Lots of refined Nontrium(stacked 1/100) spawned in the controll room. I don't really know what caused it cos we noticed it way too late, but my guess is too much refining and not storing the refined minerals caused lack of space which forced newly refined minerals to spawn elsewhere.

Screenshot here

Sorry if this was reported earlier.

on a sidenote: You're doing a great job on the map, Cruiser Command is without a doubt my best gaming experience ever.
Also thanks to Clan CC, before you guys it would go months between games. Lets hope this map gets the recognition it truly deserves.

HAHA! Mega I am Chief Kowalsky in that game ^.^
But yes, we did refine loads of resources. Was saving for full refinery upgrades, and refined maybe.. 30-40 stacks of ore.

 

[TKF]

Played a game where this odd bug occured. Lots of refined Nontrium(stacked 1/100) spawned in the controll room. I don't really know what caused it cos we noticed it way too late, but my guess is too much refining and not storing the refined minerals caused lack of space which forced newly refined minerals to spawn elsewhere.

Screenshot here

Sorry if this was reported earlier.

on a sidenote: You're doing a great job on the map, Cruiser Command is without a doubt my best gaming experience ever.
Also thanks to Clan CC, before you guys it would go months between games. Lets hope this map gets the recognition it truly deserves.

Let me guess, to much minerals on the conveyor belt on the refinery and the minerals shaked in a region which reduce it to 1 and spawns unlimited new nons and split them apart, making dozens of single stacked items. I have no solution to this problem, just make sure the refinery isn't totally full.

 

[Mega.Brother]

Thats what I thought but I'm not sure, havn't tested it.

 

[Mega.Brother]

Mass Replicator Console: As the weakest seems to the replicator, and I might need to add a new ability to is to make it more tempting to build. Although it's most useful in games with shortages of minerals, I think it's not chosen as it lacks offensive and defensive functions.

I was thinking about a way to buff this console.

You activate "Super Auto Refinery" which automatically refines and stores minerals instantly as the drone reaches the cruiser, energy cost based on number of minerals refined. Requires the refinery to be active.

One could argue that the Refinery robots are already doing this but they would be slower and are still quite bugged, especially if you use more than one.

 

[TKF]

Ok, I've done some changes, but I've just added a couple of abilties and features.

Added a new ability to the replicator: Replicate Core Health
Added restrict door access ability to Access Console
Hangar Consoles can now tranfer energy to vessels and energy from vessels to cruiser
Photon Torpedo does now cause random effects upon impacts represtented by a color
Photon Torpedo does now have one of 4 random colors: Red, Purple, Yellow or Blue
Greatly reduced the fast recovery rate of cereberus shield system
Energy Torpedo does more shield damage if the enemy cruiser has cereberus shield system
Slightly reduced the energy costs on torpedoes
Slightly buffed the Overcharged Laser damage vs everything
Nerfed the power distruption ability of wasps against cruisers
Set the correct energy costs for robots for Cruiser 2
Added a liftetime to the constructor, which should remove it in case triggers don't
Changed the AI priorities when it's less than 4 refined ores to prevent stuck
Greatly reduced the stuck delay of the refinery robots

Spoiler

0.83c has been released! Enjoy!

I made major adjustments to the AI, I don't know if it works but it should be much faster and I stress tested it with 20 robots and amazingly it kinda worked in a inefficient way. However new scripts make it have some difficulties so I'm quite sure the refinery robot is still buggy, but if you help him refine stuff it shouldn't cripple the refinery robot AI as much as before. Also the energy costs for robots is now correct for cruiser 2 and reduced from 15/10 to 10/5 gw like it's for cruiser 1.

I remove the door access control if it seems to be abused. I implemented it cuz it detains rampant players just messing around as a last countermeasure.

 

[Dr Super Good]

That cruiser model..... looks.... Very.... SC2....

Infact, it reaks of being ported directly from SC2. From the polly count to to way that the translusent rail for the yammato gun is crudly textured over. The wings were altered though and some parts underwent a resize. The texture is an obvious port of SC2, the pattern matches SC2 almost 1:1. I have attached screenshots of the release SC2 battlecruiser just so you can see why I am acusing it of being ported. Differeneces may be due to vandilisim to the model or it being from the early beta (models changed a bit from the beta).

Areas of extreem similarity are the side of the front, the overall texturing (ovserve the texture details and shapes how the often match 1:1 with SC2), the shape of the ship and the geometry on the thrusters and cannon. It is clear that the 4 stabilizers have been removed, the wing shielding stretched, the bridge removed, all guns removed, the shielding for the cannon removed, the cannon rail has been poorly textured over and some blue circles added to the skin.

In anycase, you should credit Blizzard for the model as currently you say that "Blodmon" made the model fully and not blizzard (who made most of the model). You should add credits on the first page by the screen shot and credits ingame.

That is unless the author "Blodmon" can give a damn good reason why the model matches the one in SC2 so closely and can be called "his".

 

[Viei]

Refinery.
I pre-mined some ore, and produced refinery robot. Unlike previous map version it just stands near bay doors and does nothing. Doesn't pick existing ores.
When given some ore it (almost) properly performs refining and storing routine and returns to being idle in the corridor.
When given one piece of ore it refines and stores.
When given 2 pieces of ore it picks up 2 more pieces from the bay platform, refines and stores.
I didn't manage to give 3 pieces, as it quickly started running to refinery.
If there are some manually refined metal in the refinery, robot picks and stores.
Each time returns to being idle after that.
Nothing changed when i set up mining station. Battlecruiser #1. Turning on/off didn't help.
Do not know if it depends, but earlier I experimented on restricting door access to myself.

Is it possible to do separate robots - one for transporting ores to the refinery and other for storing metal? Or just transporting to refinery and no storing?

Also in 0.82b, if repair matrix was placed in the corridor (battlestations) and the robot would (for some reason) drop ore near it, next time it could pick matrix with the ore and carry it around.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

HELLO. A Staff member here
I am just here to remind everyone that model theft is a VERY serious crime, a crime that is actually punishable by law(irl) with fines and possible jail time if you are caught profiting from it.

I suggest you put the proper credits where they are due. ie. Blizzard because it IS, afterall, an intellectual property of Blizzard. blodmon can be credited for importing and minor mesh edit. However, taking complete credit the model is outrageous.

i am not a map mod but please act according to your conscience.

Thanks to DSG who've pointed this little problem out.

 

[XenoStalker]

Fanmade... banner I guess....

[ Since I received no response via PM ]

I guess he gets so many he ignores them >.>

Fanmade Minimap Image/Thing

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Anyways, the Anti Matter Core is awesome.

 

[Blodmon]

That cruiser model..... looks.... Very.... SC2....

Infact, it reaks of being ported directly from SC2. From the polly count to to way that the translusent rail for the yammato gun is crudly textured over. The wings were altered though and some parts underwent a resize. The texture is an obvious port of SC2, the pattern matches SC2 almost 1:1. I have attached screenshots of the release SC2 battlecruiser just so you can see why I am acusing it of being ported. Differeneces may be due to vandilisim to the model or it being from the early beta (models changed a bit from the beta).

Areas of extreem similarity are the side of the front, the overall texturing (ovserve the texture details and shapes how the often match 1:1 with SC2), the shape of the ship and the geometry on the thrusters and cannon. It is clear that the 4 stabilizers have been removed, the wing shielding stretched, the bridge removed, all guns removed, the shielding for the cannon removed, the cannon rail has been poorly textured over and some blue circles added to the skin.

In anycase, you should credit Blizzard for the model as currently you say that "Blodmon" made the model fully and not blizzard (who made most of the model). You should add credits on the first page by the screen shot and credits ingame.

That is unless the author "Blodmon" can give a damn good reason why the model matches the one in SC2 so closely and can be called "his".

Yes, the Battle Cruiser model of SC2 has served as the base model, but I do not use it for commercial purposes.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

nevertheless you still need to credit blizzard. which you...seemingly havent done

 

[Windowslol]

The map is great! Once u get decent ppl that knows how to play, the game turns into a masterpiece. I have played quite many times and only once i came across a bug, wich is already fixed, so keep up the good work .

 

[TKF]

Hmm, AI worked when i tested it, somehow I don't know why it got messed up in the protected version I might have to redo it again and it might take some time. Seperate robots isn't the solution as it's even more complicated. Simply do not build refinery robots in 0.83c, they doesn't work as intended.


As for loading screen I will not implement it.

Regarding the credits issue I will change that in next version and also alter the minimap picture as well. I remember I mentioned to DSG earlier about the model looking quite familiar but I didn't realize the credits situation around it. Thanks for clarifying it to me.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The problem is that most of the model work still belongs to blizzard as the work you did was easy compared to that of the poor artists who had to create the whole battlecruiser model from scratch.

Imgine if someone modified one of your models slightly before calling it all his own work and never gave you any credit for the orignal... Would you seriously be ok with that?

 

[naga]

hmm it would be good if there are something like making weapons like faser or something and you can land on other ship and you attack the machines to destroy the ship and players

 

[Blodmon]

The problem is that most of the model work still belongs to blizzard as the work you did was easy compared to that of the poor artists who had to create the whole battlecruiser model from scratch.

Imgine if someone modified one of your models slightly before calling it all his own work and never gave you any credit for the orignal... Would you seriously be ok with that?

On change too it is necessary was work... but I do not pretend on full authorship of the models since model was made not with zero.If I have time, that I shall do the new model of the battlecruiser.А before that time offer to use this model, but without my copyrights if you so wants.

Dr Super Good you complacent?

 

[Yuzhy]

On change too it is necessary was work... but I do not pretend on full authorship of the models since model was made not with zero.If I have time, that I shall do the new model of the battlecruiser.А before that time offer to use this model, but without my copyrights if you so wants.

Dr Super Good you complacent?

Haha... did you write that message in some non-english language and then translate it with some kind of automated service? It's very hard to understand.

I will try and rewrite what I think you wanted to say:

<Begin Translation>
Modifications also require work... but I understand I can't claim all the credits as I didn't begin the model from scratch. If I have time, I will make a new model for battlecruiser. Until then, feel free to use this model without my credits. Are you satisfied Dr Super Good?
<End Translation>

 

[Koloricsi]

hmm it would be good if there are something like making weapons like faser or something and you can land on other ship and you attack the machines to destroy the ship and players

You should read the huge amount of comments before writing and idea, it was like suggested 3 or 4 times already, and it has been said, that it wont be implemented, or not recently....

 

[TKF]

Well, this delays the fast release of 0.83d which fixed the AI bug. This is far more important since this might set the map to rejection status.


If I have to remove the cruiser from the map, I have to readjust the damage points on the cruiser since it's slightly different than the older model and that takes some time to do, so don't expect a fast update. I have to remove the model itself from the map since it seems I can no longer use the model in the map due to model theft and copyright issues. That does also mean removal of the current minimap image since it's based on the same model and lot of time is required to readjust all points maybe 1 or 2 days of reworking. A wall of triggers to look through. I doubt it will be done fast cuz I have very little time atm.


Well if I can keep the model and just change the credits to Blizzard it will save me a lot of work if that's ok with DSC, if not it will take time.

 

[Blodmon]

Well, this delays the fast release of 0.83d which fixed the AI bug. This is far more important since this might set the map to rejection status.


If I have to remove the cruiser from the map, I have to readjust the damage points on the cruiser since it's slightly different than the older model and that takes some time to do, so don't expect a fast update. I have to remove the model itself from the map since it seems I can no longer use the model in the map due to model theft and copyright issues. That does also mean removal of the current minimap image since it's based on the same model and lot of time is required to readjust all points maybe 1 or 2 days of reworking. A wall of triggers to look through. I doubt it will be done fast cuz I have very little time atm.


Well if I can keep the model and just change the credits to Blizzard it will save me a lot of work if that's ok with DSC, if not it will take time.

Ok, I agree on full copyright of the blizzard...

 

[TKF]

Well 0.83d will be released tonight or tomorrow here on hive.

Added a new ability to the anti matter energy console: EMP
Cruiser engine trails will now disappear when they are without power
Fixed a player group bug that still restricted promoted captains to use the cruiser
Fixed the credits settings to blizzard for the SC2 Cruiser model
Fixed the AI bug which made it not working in 0.83c version
Refinery AI should now be much faster than before and less buggy
Fixed a bug that made the engine overdrive spit flames from wrong cruiser

The credits setting will be fixed in 0.83d

EMP is a double-edged weapon. I implemented it since some player like to run and run in the entire game which makes battling quite difficult, this will effectively stop both cruisers and forces the game to an end and creating a sudden death situation. However only available for you if you have picked the Anti-Matter Core.



Refinery AI
I spent a couple of hours adding yet another AI debugging trigger, which should optimize the refinery AI to an acceptable level. It still has it's bugs but now, but it should be way faster than before and I've tested it multiple times with 3 robots. However I will not recommend you to build more than 3 refinery robots as they simply will not cooperate that well.

At least 1-3 ores will be on the conveyor belt at all times, since if the bot picks up those, it will not continue until it has an item in slot 4. If it picks up items it shouldn't have, it will drop it immediately. The refiner robot works again in 0.83d version.

 

[Viei]

From what I learned, "Asteroid shield impact" message is only displayed when crew member is inside ship.
"Connecting power supply from vessel #x" is displayed to everyone, even to other miner pilot flying somewhere. Is it possible to change it like asteroid message?

As reported before, exiting from console spellbooks with Esc turns on info nodes.
Is it possible to add textual command to disable nodes and blue hints ("fighter is not detected by radar"/"do not smelt all the ore without refinery upgrades") forever? something like "-i'mnotanoob"

Maybe some buff to Opposer Proximity Mines?

There's some minor bug which allows vessel to lose control for a second and get a vision of enemy miner's inventory. Do not know which one, from left or right bay. After this control comes back. Wasn't able to intentionally replicate this, but it happens sometimes.

When maxed, Survey Scanner upgrade displays slightly different message then other upgrades do. Pure cosmetics ofc.

 

[TKF]

From what I learned, "Asteroid shield impact" message is only displayed when crew member is inside ship and not viewing outside with F1 camera.
"Connecting power supply from vessel #x" is displayed to everyone, even to other miner pilot flying somewhere. Is it possible to change it like asteroid message?

Some messages appear locally, but the power supply message appears for everyone. Also when the cruiser loses power, the miners and fighters get the "broadcoasting" messages.

As reported before, exiting from console spellbooks with Esc turns on info nodes.
Is it possible to add textual command to disable nodes and blue hints ("fighter is not detected by radar"/"do not smelt all the ore without refinery upgrades") forever? something like "-i'mnotanoob"

I've received some feedback on this from others. I'm going to see if there is a way to fix it.

There is a hint appearing 2 minutes in the game that recommends your team to upgrade the refinery. Still people rarely read them. But I can add a condition to them that requires tutorial mode to be on maybe on some of the hints.

Maybe some buff to Opposer Proximity Mines?

Well, they do suck vs shields, but I've added a small core damaging feature on them as well as slowing the cruiser, also slows the cruiser a bit when it hits the shields, but more if it hits the hull. However they are weaker than the Devastator mines vs hull. I think they are a bit powerful compared to their price and having some in a path for a fast cruiser will slow it down. I will maybe add a bit better slow effect while shield is on maybe.

Also there is a problem that mines tend to damage the miner and the fighter often when used for offensive attacks, I'll see what I can do about that.

There's some minor bug which allows vessel to lose control for a second and get a vision of enemy miner's inventory. Do not know which one, from left or right bay. After this control comes back. Wasn't able to intentionally replicate this, but it happens sometimes.

I've tried to fix this, but this is a unfortunate sideeffect of keeping the control loss bug under control. So far I don't know how to fix it, but when you reselect your vessel you regain control over it. The triggers don't reconize this odd event which seems to happen for no reason as the selection lock trigger should react on this, for some reasons it doesn't work all the time.


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0.83d will be released tomorrow.

 

[dls]

anyone playing this on the map garen? I have about 4 people in the game ... garen my nick is "Ales .." or write me [email protected] ... pls need players on this map: D

 

[Himatoxic]

You should give out an autoturret upgrade. Just modify phoenix fire into a laser weapon.

 

[Mexichen]

In Version 83c i had 3 times the bug, thad anyone stuck in a console. His Crew Member can't move and no Abilitys can be used. I will test version 83d later today^^

I wish you build in a laser cannon in the engine Room. Thad will be very useful.

 

[TKF]

In Version 83c i had 3 times the bug, thad anyone stuck in a console. His Crew Member can't move and no Abilitys can be used. I will test version 83d later today^^

I wish you build in a laser cannon in the engine Room. Thad will be very useful.

Which console was it, maybe my edits did distrupt the selection lock for one console, if you let me know which console it was maybe there was a bug on that console.

And regarding lasers its enough with 2 laser turrets on bridge.


The map is now updated.

 

[Mexichen]

Mhh, you are right with the Lasers.

The bug was on the left laser Turret Console and at the molecular Constructor 2 times.

 

[TKF]

Mhh, you are right with the Lasers.

The bug was on the left laser Turret Console and at the molecular Constructor 2 times.

I've now also experienced this myself, its caused by the trigger lagg which also causes the missiles to sometimes not load. Unless a worker appears on left bottom corner by hitting F8, the console and crew is both paused and noone can use this console again. Happens with all consoles even its very rare. I will see what I can do with it. It happens more often in newer versions since I've added new triggers for every version there is loads of periodic systems running.

 

[sentrywiz]

I haven't seen a map done this well. And beyond well, its completely hard and unique. Too bad I have no1 to play it with right now.

Btw, why can I pilot any of those mineral vessels in the bay? I tried with a pilot, but it didn't work.

 

[GoblinShoD]

I haven't seen a map done this well. And beyond well, its completely hard and unique. Too bad I have no1 to play it with right now.

Btw, why can I pilot any of those mineral vessels in the bay? I tried with a pilot, but it didn't work.

Well, jump over to channel Clan CCE on Northrend (Europe). We've an active clan there dedicated for Cruiser Command which we uses a bot to autohost it 24/7.