Couple Trigger Questions

[Vizel]

Okay, first of all, I have a trigger in my map that activates a fog effect.

What is that considered? Special effect? Or what? For Variable purposes.

I don't get it since I didn't make it. But it does what I want it to do, except that it's a permanent effect after I activate it (Step on the appropriate rect). It's there for when you enter the castle, but I want it to go away upon exiting. I think an if/then/else statement? IDK. I'm too tired to think right. Point is, I don't know how to make it do what I want. Here's the trigger atm:

• Darkness
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters Gate Castle Open <gen>
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Environment - Set fog to style Linear, z-start 700.00, z-end 5000.00, density 0.05 and color (77.00%, 77.00%, 51.00%)

That's the first.

The second question is, how do I make a trigger so that when a unit (Hero, if it helps) touches (Collides with?) a doodad (Treasure Chest), that it plays the appropriate animation (Morph), and gives a certain item. Then it disappears (So, I'd guess Death)? I can only figure out parts of it, but not all of it.

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Furthermore, if I had a good Triggerer for my Campaign (or just the Demo) I wouldn't be in this situation! D:

 

[Adiktuz]

for the first one, I dont think fogs can be set into variables, since you cannot create and destroy fogs only edit...

for the second one, you could make a region around the destructable and use the event, Unit - a unit enters region... ^^

 

[Maker]

This will make the fog go away:

• Environment - Reset fog to default values

Just use Unit enters region to trigger it.

I don't think there's a variable type for fog.

For the second thing, you can place a dummy unit at the position of the doodad an use this:

• Untitled Trigger 021
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit comes within 256.00 of *dummy*
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
    • Animation - Play *doodad* morph animation
    • Hero - Create Tome of Experience and give it to (Triggering unit) // Create the item for the unit that comes close to the dummy
    • Wait 2.00 seconds // You can try to set this so that the animation completes
    • Unit - Remove *dummy* from the game
    • Destructible - Remove *doodad*

EDIT: Slow.

 

[Vizel]

OMG.... Maker...

That's what lack of sleep does to me, -.-

I didn't even THINK to check if there was such an action.

So, I either gotta do the dummy unit or the region after all. Wasn't sure if there was a simpler way or doing so. Thanks, guys. Abiding my signature.

EDIT: Maker, it's not a destructible so that command won't remove it. I couldn't find any way to remove a doodad, either. Will I have to make it a destructible for this to work?

 

[Vizel]

Bump for the above post's Edit.

The proposed fix by Maker doesn't work. The Chest doesn't get destroyed. I'm assuming cause it's not a Destructible?

Here's what I have:

• Castle Key
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters TC Castle Key <gen>
  • Conditions
    • ((Entering unit) is A Hero) Equal to (==) True
  • Actions
    • Animation - Play the morph animation for all doodads of type Treasure Chest within TC Castle Key <gen>
    • Hero - Create Key and give it to (Entering unit)
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Destructible - Remove (Random destructible in TC Castle Key <gen>)

Am I going to have to edit the chest to be a Destructible that's not attackable (Which I'm not sure how to do, Locust?) in order for this to work?

 

[Adiktuz]

Bump for the above post's Edit.

The proposed fix by Maker doesn't work. The Chest doesn't get destroyed. I'm assuming cause it's not a Destructible?

Here's what I have:

• Castle Key
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters TC Castle Key <gen>
  • Conditions
    • ((Entering unit) is A Hero) Equal to (==) True
  • Actions
    • Animation - Play the morph animation for all doodads of type Treasure Chest within TC Castle Key <gen>
    • Hero - Create Key and give it to (Entering unit)
    • Wait 2.00 seconds
    • Destructible - Remove (Random destructible in TC Castle Key <gen>)

Am I going to have to edit the chest to be a Destructible that's not attackable (Which I'm not sure how to do, Locust?) in order for this to work?

so you mean the chest is a doodad?

for the unattackable, change the target type to maybe tree or something to make it not attackable...

 

[Vizel]

Yes. The chest is a doodad.

 

[Adiktuz]

Yes. The chest is a doodad.

that's the problem... because that action is for destructables so you need to make it a destructable... anyway there are options in the OE to make your chest unattackable... just try to look at the default ones...

 

[Vizel]

Alright, thanks, mate.

EDIT: Problem still exists. In a different fashion.

The model I'm using the the chest isn't able to be attached to a Destructible. Somehow.

I'll try and come up with a workaround, though. If possible, some ideas would be nice.

EDIT2: Well, now all I need to do is find some way to remove doodads from the region it is in, and all's well. I guess.... Or even just to remove the pathing of it after the fact. To do this, I think I'd need a dummy unit, though, confirmation?

Cause now I have it disappear from sight through it's death animation. But...it's still there.

 

[Vizel]

Bump for EDIT2!

 

[Adiktuz]

you cannot attach the chest model into a doodad? ur confusing me, coz you said that the chest was a doodad and then now you cant attach the model into a doodad? or are you talking of destructable, please dont mix doodad with destructable coz they work differently...

I think its a destructable coz there are no in-game functions to affect doodads... anyway there is a function to kill destructables... and ofc, disable the trigger at the first line of action...

 

[Vizel]

Well.

It was a typo, xD Fixed, btw.

I can't attach it to a destructible, it gives me the nasty box and can't read the model file for some reason. When I stick it on a doodad it is fine, though.

The next thing I'm thinking though is... remove the pathing on the chest itself, and use a dummy unit that has a pathing and just do it that way. I'm guessing that would work, cause the chest itself disappears, but the pathing is still there (This is after death animation).

 

[Adiktuz]

hmmm... set destructable variations to 1... but if you insist on the doodad, a dummy isnt really needed... just use pathing blockers and then kill/remove them upon death of the chest...

 

[Boris_Spider]

Why not import the doodad model over an existing destructible?
I just set the underground tree wall's model file to Brazier Glowing <base>. It also worked for every other doodad model I put on it. Just make sure that you set Art -> Model File -> Variations to 1. It won't work otherwise.

Note that I could only get it to work with tree walls. The barrels definately don't work.

If you're concerned about it being destroyed, just do this under your init trigger (or w/e is appropriate):
Destructible -> Make (Your Destructible) vulnerable/invulnerable.
And as Adiktuz mentioned, you can remove and/or kill destructibles via triggers.

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[Vizel]

I'll try that tomorrow. Thanks.