Corruption of the Prince

[Zenonoth]

Hello, just tested the map here's my review:

+ Good terrain
+ Good Storyline
+ Good presentation
+ Well-made quests and triggers
+ Entertaining maps

- Grammar Mistakes (Totally unacceptable ask @renegade to help you with proofreading)
- Only 4 missions

Overall, I'll rate this map 3/5 vote for awaiting update, and +Rep, will change my rating when changes are applied, you can also tell me if you're dissatisfied with my rating and comment and I'll gladly remove them.

 

[deepstrasz]

So, it's not finished or what? Why the DO NOT APPROVE YET message?

Some screenshots wouldn't hurt.
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chap1:
-the Counter Attack spell is weird; Falric disappears for 0.5-1 secs and then attacks a random unit that attacked him even if that unit is not at close range
-play music through Play Music not Play Sound
-"Arthas into the cave? What's he going to do?" I don't know, maybe, hide?

chap2:
-cliche saving Falric from certain death...
-I think Baelgun was referring to Lord Muradin not Baelgun?
-basically Falric's Shield Bash is a Storm Bolt
-Murdain's eh? Sound familiar, maybe, Muradin?

chap3:
-not sure how those dwarves and humans got inside the ruins; maybe through other entrances
-HINT: save your game before it's too late as you'll fight a boss; that should come earlier as I've only had some seconds to save while the screen was fading to black and the cinematic mode was preparing to start
-you get no restoration after defeating the skeleton boss (purple) especially when 90% of the player's army is dead
-Anub'Rekhan fight is too powerful; there are too many Crypt Fiends and the hero is at one point left alone vs. fiends and the boss (that regenerates its life to full from time to time; not to mention the spike field); it was luck that I had a big Magnataur and some other units from Rebirth Runes and only attacked the Crypt Lord; otherwise...

chap4:
-well, basically "winning" or losing is the same thing as the result/end would be the same
-storywise, it's weird that the first time Arthas didn't turn Falric into an undead and he was saved... Anyways, I think it makes more sense if first Arthas became undead himself to be able to turn others; I have doubts he was the one to turn Falric and the others in the first place as Arthas was just blooming his unholy powers; I guess the Lich King turned those on Northrend into undead, then Arthas went with them to take Lordaeron and by the time he reached Silvermoon he was powerful enough to "turn" Sylvanas into a Banshee

-where are the credits?
-what's that about different ending? How do you access that, depending on the difficulty?

4.25/5 for encouragement. There are good gameplay ideas (my favourite level is the 3rd). However, the story is seriously lacking depth and sometimes realistic logic...

 

[DEB1234]

Thanks for your comments. Second post here for me!
Overall, the major issues is grammar, sorry about that! The gameplay seems doesn't have too many problems but only some mistakes.

Yes, there is indeed different ending in chapter 4. The first one is good ending, to access it, defeat Arthas in the first mission. Hmm, Arthas may hard for you. However, it's possible to kill him in easy for some of you. And Arthas will be saved in the good ending. For the bad ending, just order Falric to die in Arthas fight. Falric will be turned into undead.

More serects for the story can be found. If you beat the campaign on hard difficulty( Need to be defeated one by one from the first chapter to the last chapter ). If you replay it, then you can know what the frostmonure told to Arthas. And yes, it's odd enough if Arthas didn't turn falric into an undead at the first time. I'm gonna to plan a reason. Most likely is that frostmonure thought that Falric must loyal to Prince Arthas even if he is a dead. This will be explained in the frostmonure's voice. Speech and grammar will be improved. Actually, I hate doing cinematic! That's why the story in chapter 3 is lacking, and I didn't have too many ideas that I should do for the cinematic, but I will add them later.

For the gameplay, some spells and minor mistakes will be fixed. "you get no restoration after defeating the skeleton boss (purple) especially when 90% of the player's army is dead" You had not noticed that there is a heal fountain. It located in the east of the boss fight area. I may have to add visibility around the fountain so that you can see it.

Since I'm lack of time, the next update may come late (probably few months, or even more). Once all the things are well-made enough, I may remove "do not approve" message. Gameplay should be good enough. Therefore, I will improve the story at the first place. If you have any ideas for the story, feel free to comment!

 

[deepstrasz]

The first one is good ending, to access it, defeat Arthas in the first mission. Hmm, Arthas may hard for you.

Really!? I thought it was supposed for Falric to be defeated there. I thought it was quite improbable to kill Arthas.

However, it's possible to kill him in easy for some of you.

That's not a good thing. You're supposed to be able to finish the game all ways on all difficulties.
Well, Arthas defeated Falric in the first chapter, Baelgun killed Anub'Rekhan in the third and in the fourth chapter, I got to the circle before Arthas but Falric still died. The second chapter, I reckon you have to win so there's no choice there.

Actually, I hate doing cinematic!

Me too but it's really makes the story awful without them. Cinematic scenes are the best opportunities to explain things.

You had not noticed that there is a heal fountain. It located in the east of the boss fight area.

Oops.

Gameplay should be good enough

Yeah, it's really fine. I'd approve the campaign just for that.

If you have any ideas for the story, feel free to comment!

Well, I first need to know what you planned and what you feel should happen.

And yes, it's odd enough if Arthas didn't turn falric into an undead at the first time.

Not just that he might have not been able to but why leave him alive? His glimpses of humanity stopped him from doing so and he just ran blindly. But, a sword like that does not just cut you, it strikes the cold of the dead into the opponent and Falric was no paladin mind you. What remedy to heal him and so fast/soon?

 

[DEB1234]

It's possible to kill Arthas on normal difficulty, but you need some technology. Hard is almost impossible. Therefore, I should reduce Arthas's "cheats". To defeat him, you first need to find a ice shard. Summon it in the fight, this should greatly help to kill him. Shield bash is powerful for 1 vs 1, try not to use court attack frequently. Due to the maximum of Falric's mana is less, it's so easily to run out of his mana. So you better to bring some mana potions. Arthas also would use some potions, so be careful. Note that he also have a Ankh of Reincarnation on higer difficulties. It should be challenging for some of you. That's awesome because the good ending won't be easy to access, then the story must be more entertaining.

The different ending makes some stroylines suck, lol. But I still want to keep that feature. Therefore, I have to add quite a lot complement for it. I'm still considering some ideas. Falric saved by Baelgun at first, frostmourne hadn't fully control his mind. Frostmourne felt that he was a incompetent warrior, lead Arthas to leave. But if Falric was still alive, and stopped Prince Arthas to leave. Then frostmonure felt he was a great warrior, and Arthas had absorbed much enough souls, so he was enough power to turn them into undeads. Sadly, this is hard to explain in the cinematic. The story will be improved in next version.

 

[Kino]

I could criticize this campaign for the dialogue being barely understandable, or how the protagonist has really only 2 useful abilities out of 4. However, all that doesn’t really matter as this is a really well made campaign.
Definitely the best one I have had the pleasure of playing in the last few months. Take what you will from that observation.

There are two things I really enjoyed about this campaign
1) How open it often is in terms of level design. For example, the first mission opens with forest to explore, there are random creep camps to loot as well as a persistent side objective that you can pursue. Also, creeps camps actually reward you for actually finding and killing them.
In short, the game gives you options to explore, while at the same time keeping the path and objective tight enough that you never quite feel lost.

2) That puzzle/mission solutions were very intuitive; there is a visual or sound que whenever anything of significance occurs. Places and items of importance are visually distinct without being explicitly labelled so. The game encourages you to try things out without having to worry about whether you got the “right” answer of not.
Combine these two things and the result is a campaign that is very enjoyable to explore (both in terms of geography and mission objective solutions) while at the same time having next to 0 handholding.
Most of the missions have no directions given, yet I never got lost or felt so.

I also liked how the custom enemy types often had very significant, game changing abilities while at the same time coming across as very well balanced.
Also the boss-fight are excellently designed and very fun to play; which is unusual for campaign type maps I might add.
The Azjol Nerub level may also be one my favourite campaign levels in wc3 custom map bar none.

TLDR Version
Review version: 1.0a - 20/10/16

- Short but solid campaign, ending may be a bit abrupt
- Game-play quality, is very comparable to the official wc3 campaigns
- Mission 3 is exceptionally well made

Seal of excellence; I believe that this campaign is both well made and very enjoyable to play.
~ Map Approved

 

[Pirvan Ionut]

great campaign
I think I know a name for a new campaign Azeroth Return of Sargeras

 

[deepstrasz]

I think I know a name for a new campaign Azeroth Return of Sargeras

Boring.... so cliche and repetitive... But, probably somebody'll do it.

 

[Alliance10]

i found a bug but i'm not sure when i play the chapter 2 after finding a gold mine it automatically ends the game.

 

[B22]

Did you mean "Arthas's captain, Falric, learned about Arthas's DISAPPEARANCE. Therefore, he had decided to find him out, but Arthas......" (Your "falric" didn't use capital)
And anyway, you should do some screenshots so that people can actually see what does it look like from the outside. It's like introducing your Campaign. It your screenshots are good, people will more likely to try it.

 

[B22]

Oh, also some lore correction. Falric and Marwynn followed Arthas the whole time without being turned into Undead of Death Knight. They even aided Arthas in killing his father.
If you saw the Warcraft 3 RoC Human Ending Cinematic. You can see two robed guys following Arthas, that is Falric and Marywnn.

 

[DEB1234]

i found a bug but i'm not sure when i play the chapter 2 after finding a gold mine it automatically ends the game.

Oh, really? It didn't happen to me, well, it will be fixed.

Did you mean "Arthas's captain, Falric, learned about Arthas's DISAPPEARANCE. Therefore, he had decided to find him out, but Arthas......" (Your "falric" didn't use capital)
And anyway, you should do some screenshots so that people can actually see what does it look like from the outside. It's like introducing your Campaign. It your screenshots are good, people will more likely to try it.

I will fix the map descriptions and add 16 screenshots here once the update is done. But I'm quite busy for my life, it may take long for the next update.

Oh, also some lore correction. Falric and Marwynn followed Arthas the whole time without being turned into Undead of Death Knight. They even aided Arthas in killing his father.
If you saw the Warcraft 3 RoC Human Ending Cinematic. You can see two robed guys following Arthas, that is Falric and Marywnn.

Yes, I know. But I'm just planned for Falric, there's no story for Marywnn in this campaign.

 

[DarkSword123]

Dude I love the campaign but something just are extremely annoying to be specific it's chapter 2 the events trigger without even completing any of it you have a lot to fix in this map dude both grammar and many other things

 

[DEB1234]

Thanks, but can u give me some examples about what is bothering u? of course, i know my grammar is bad, and that's true. but i don't know what u said that ch2 isn't complete, plz tell me the specific problem.

 

[DarkSword123]

Thanks, but can u give me some examples about what is bothering u? of course, i know my grammar is bad, and that's true. but i don't know what u said that ch2 isn't complete, plz tell me the specific problem.

OK here's the problem i didn't even find the gold mine and finish the mission
also i didn't even destroy the nerubian base and win the chapter anyway seriously i like your campaign but the triggers are so bad i'm not gonna bother by telling you that you have horrible grammar but still the campaign is good and i don't wanna make you feel bad so there that's was the problem

 

[Alliance10]

That 's the same problem i encountered while playing the chapter 2 it's like the triggers is automatic

 

[DarkSword123]

That 's the same problem i encountered while playing the chapter 2 it's like the triggers is automatic

Or early trigger actually i have never encountered that while playing the rest of other two chapter but what bug me the most was the second chapter

 

[DEB1234]

Sorry about that. This version is old, of course there are many bugs. i have updated it but still not finish, and now i don't have much time for it plus i'm lazy to update this campaign.

 

[DEB1234]

It's so embarrassing that about 4000 people had played my suck version campaign......

But now I finally fixed it, although not a big update. Also, it still contains several grammar mistakes. but i sure bugs are all fixed.

I hope this project contains no bug in that version, and i have a idea that it will be fun if my map can be made 2p coop mode.

 

[deepstrasz]

hope this project contains no bug in that version

What about the
"Please do not approve this map now!"?
Shouldn't you remove that?

EDIT: I'll increase my rating further due to the constant updating and replayability value.
4.5/5.

 

[DEB1234]

oops, forgot about it

 

[DarkSword123]

It's so embarrassing that about 4000 people had played my suck version campaign......

But now I finally fixed it, although not a big update. Also, it still contains several grammar mistakes. but i sure bugs are all fixed.

I hope this project contains no bug in that version, and i have a idea that it will be fun if my map can be made 2p coop mode.

Thank god for that i'm starting to play it again now looking forward to a "bug less" map but don't worry i'll give it a fair rating whatsover

 

[DEB1234]

Thank god for that i'm starting to play it again now looking forward to a "bug less" map but don't worry i'll give it a fair rating whatsover

Thanks for your support. I hope you'll enjoy my "bug less" map. If you have any problem, just tell me.

 

[DarkSword123]

Thanks for your support. I hope you'll enjoy my "bug less" map. If you have any problem, just tell me.

Holy shit that was fun although there was only four maps it's all flesh out and very good i have a lot of fun with puzzles on chapter 3 although there should be more levers to turn off the fire that thing makes me lost a crap load of unit through out the entire map if you're planning to keeping those fire on you should at least give me more healing potion or more unit along the way and the triggers on chapter two were fix i can finally finish the map by destroying the nerubian bases but on the fourth chapter Arthas got there too fast in my opinion the creeps didn't do a very good job of holding him down in other words i love this update it fix a lot of the problem that happens before

 

[DEB1234]

ok, thx for ur message. perhaps i need to add more creeps on ch4 or reduce the strength of arthas, indeed is fast, but last mission, so of course it should be hard. for the hint on this mission, just use mortar team to shot him to make him suck there. also, if he too close to the location, some titan will come to help which they deal chaos and high damages. and the ship guardian are very powerful, and arthas need to kill them because of ai suck while u dont need to kill them and rush to the power circle. so i dont think it's the problem. just get the ship as fast as u can!

 

[DarkSword123]

ok, thx for ur message. perhaps i need to add more creeps on ch4 or reduce the strength of arthas, indeed is fast, but last mission, so of course it should be hard. for the hint on this mission, just use mortar team to shot him to make him suck there. also, if he too close to the location, some titan will come to help which they deal chaos and high damages. and the ship guardian are very powerful, and arthas need to kill them because of ai suck while u dont need to kill them and rush to the power circle. so i dont think it's the problem. just get the ship as fast as u can!

Awesome sadly the titans didn't show up for some reason when i play it on my second run glad i found the goblin dude his job of clearing those bridges help me out a lot also are you planning on doing a sequel to this campaign i enjoy this a lot and hoping to see more of your work sooner or later

 

[DEB1234]

titans didn't show up because u're playing hard ( i planned they don't come help on higher difficult ), or Arthas wasn't close enough to the area of furbolg which guard the cave.

"are you planning on doing a sequel to this campaign" i dk, maybe i'll, depending on my time

 

[DarkSword123]

titans didn't show up because u're playing hard ( i planned they don't come help on higher difficult ), or Arthas wasn't close enough to the area of furbolg which guard the cave.

"are you planning on doing a sequel to this campaign" i dk, maybe i'll, depending on my time

oh so that's why the titans didn't come out when i play on hard on normal and easy they did come out which makes stopping him more easily and if you have the time you should do either a sequel to this or you could move to the different race like orc or undead or a different thing i guess you're awesome and i hope to see more of your work

 

[DEB1234]

wanna to see more work form me? I'm making a campaign named fall of the lich king which started from 2014 November, i planned i'll make 14 chapters, but due to my time and my lazy, i decided chapter 9 will be last chapter. after 3 years of development, chapter 1,2,4,6,7,8,9 are finished, that's mean the remaining chapter that still under development is chapter 3,5. the campaign is about the story after arthas became lich king, and blood elves, naga take revenges to him. Also, this campaign also include baelgun which escaped from Azjol-Nerub city and meet blood elves. but this not a sequel from corruption of the prince. besides making this campaign, i also have a idea to make corruption of the prince to 2p mode, but first need to make sure all grammar and bugs in this campaign are ok. currently, i'm making fall of the lich king while update corruption of the prince.

 

[DarkSword123]

wanna to see more work form me? I'm making a campaign named fall of the lich king which started from 2014 November, i planned i'll make 14 chapters, but due to my time and my lazy, i decided chapter 9 will be last chapter. after 3 years of development, chapter 1,2,4,6,7,8,9 are finished, that's mean the remaining chapter that still under development is chapter 3,5. the campaign is about the story after arthas became lich king, and blood elves, naga take revenges to him. Also, this campaign also include baelgun which escaped from Azjol-Nerub city and meet blood elves. but this not a sequel from corruption of the prince. besides making this campaign, i also have a idea to make corruption of the prince to 2p mode, but first need to make sure all grammar and bugs in this campaign are ok. currently, i'm making fall of the lich king while update corruption of the prince.

Where can i download it or did you upload it some where i would like to see it currently in Corruption Of The Prince everything is fine and great now the only problem with it has to be the grammar mistakes i guess and holy crap is there a lot

 

[DEB1234]

fall of the lich king is under development so i haven't upload it anywhere

 

[DarkSword123]

fall of the lich king is under development so i haven't upload it anywhere

Damm but is there anyway i can play it ? i want to test everything and let my judgemnet do work after playing

 

[DEB1234]

Sorry, because it's very suck. So many grammar mistakes and lot of things suck. I will feel bad if someone have played a suck thing that created by me. Also, this campaign is being made, not finished and tested, it's very buggy, and gameplay quality is very bad.

 

[DarkSword123]

Sorry, because it's very suck. So many grammar mistakes and lot of things suck. I will feel bad if someone have played a suck thing that created by me. Also, this campaign is being made, not finished and tested, it's very buggy, and gameplay quality is very bad.

I don't mind since you don't have the time i will test it for you also don't downplay yourself so much because sometime a failure is a misunderstood genius from my point of view I'll fix some grammar mistakes for you too because i'm some what of an english substitute teacher

 

[DEB1234]

Hmm, currently no, just be patient. only 2 chapters isn't finish, wait a few more months for i to end this project, i think this won't take long. Once it finished, then will upload here.

 

[DarkSword123]

Hmm, currently no, just be patient. only 2 chapters isn't finish, wait a few more months for i to end this project, i think this won't take long. Once it finished, then will upload here.

Oh alright then i hope to see it soon if possible can i get a brief preview ?

 

[DEB1234]

Due hive work shop doesn't support .tga, i need to convert my screenshot to .jpg , but due my lazy and it support .zip, so i put all these screenshot into .zip file. Sorry about that, but it include 50 photoes. screenshots have grammar mistakes.

plz don't ask about storyline, i won't tell u about this.

 

[DarkSword123]

Due hive work shop doesn't support .tga, i need to convert my screenshot to .jpg , but due my lazy and it support .zip, so i put all these screenshot into .zip file. Sorry about that, but it include 50 photoes. screenshots have grammar mistakes.

plz don't ask about storyline, i won't tell u about this.

Everything look....."swell" i guess so many grammar mistakes though i want to know the story line so that the pictures could make sense

 

[DEB1234]

Everything look....."swell" i guess so many grammar mistakes though i want to know the story line so that the pictures could make sense

indeed so many grammar mistakes XD

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

No need to download this, I already see that u put a lot of effort in this and that u worked rly hard. Well done dawg, u get max rate from me.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

Oh mate, your grammar sucks so much... Must downrate.

 

[DarkSword123]

indeed so many grammar mistakes XD

Welp i hope you have the time to finish it i've spent days looking through the pictures over and over wondering what will the finish campaign look like
Until then i wish you good luck and hope many good things will come to you this 2017

 

[DEB1234]

Oh mate, your grammar sucks so much... Must downrate.

For grammar... I need more time to fix it, i am not very professional on english.

Welp i hope you have the time to finish it i've spent days looking through the pictures over and over wondering what will the finish campaign look like
Until then i wish you good luck and hope many good things will come to you this 2017

thx, but it takes me some time to finish.

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Btw I've just played my campaign again, hard difficulty. Some minor things need to fix and update. However, they aren't affect the gameplay.
Also, I'm curious if someone is successful had killed arthas in chapter 1 normal/hard.

 

[Rospider12]

I had a lot of fun playing this campaign i can't wait to play the final version of this campaign... Will you consider putting in voices for you'r characters?

You can visit my youtube channel i made a full playtrough and a review video here, support me ---> ToxiC Gamer <---

 

[DEB1234]

Thx for ur review, i watched it .

the storyline indeed is some suck, ch1 it haven't told us what arthas doing in the cave, y not turn falric to undead there. ch3 lack many storyline and logic that told us how did humans get in the city. so i need give more ideas to this, but my english sucks and i don't have any ideas on this currently. i want to keep the arthas fight and different ending depending on this fight, so it's hard for me to create more logic story on this......

actually this campaign is inspired by this 2p map: 2P Campaign: Human 10
unlike that map, I not only need respect the game history, but also need make the story logic while keeping good gameplay features.
Now i don't have any ideas to improve the story, if anyone have any suggestion, feel free to comment.

the next problem is grammar mistake, i'm not good at english, it's so tired for me to fix them.

i also noticed that u had found some bugs in this campaign, in order to improve the campaign, i hope u can tell these to me.

for spells, shield bash is improved version of storm bolt, the most special spell on falric is counter attack, it through many trigger to make. Arthas special spell only is the spells that can freeze u. i'm not gonna to big changes on this. but i will make mounted warrior more useful.

terrian is quite narrow, I should remove some trees there.

and that's the issues i need to fix

After that, i may create 2p version of this campaign.

 

[MouMou]

You spelled defence wrong and definitely needed a tuition teacher to teach you about grammar...anyway good campaign

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

You spelled defence wrong and definitely needed a tuition teacher to teach you about grammar...anyway good campaign

Totally agree.

 

[MouMou]

And also there are some more spelling mistake that I'm not gonna point it out

 

[deepstrasz]

Grammar is the least concern in a game unless there needs to be precise explanation of gameplay elements.