Commas in tooltips in *Func.txt

[Kurogamon]

A rather obscure question here.

Background: I'm partway through translating a map by directly editing the files from the MPQ. It appears that this map has been widgetized, and the usual method to undo that doesn't work for various reasons. So, I'm stuck doing find-replaces on HumanAbilityFunc.txt, ItemFunc.txt, HumanUnitFunc.txt, etc. I have little experience otherwise with map editing.

I'm editing tooltips in HumanAbilityFunc.txt. The original language is in Chinese, which uses a full-width comma (，) rather than the ASCII comma (,). However, it appears that the ASCII comma is also a special character which separates tooltips for different levels in ability tooltips. This means that any tooltip in English with an ASCII comma in it gets cut off at that point ingame.

I'm wondering if there is some way to escape the commas in tooltips and descriptions to keep them from being treated as control characters. Neither quotes about the tooltip nor a backslash preceding the comma work.

Much thanks in advance.

(Regarding rule #9 in the forum FAQ: I have no intent to deprotect any map nor give information on any processes involved. The script is fully obfuscated, and I have no intent to become a mapper. Permission was loosely granted for a previous attempt which was never completed due to the time investment that would be required of the authoring team; this is an effort that does not depend on such. If this topic is still in violation, apologies, plz ban.)

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Have you tried checking english maps to find out how it is done there?
There must be a way the game knows which comma is a control character or a string member.

 

[Kurogamon]

Checked/searched some other forums and consulted Google; apparently this is a common problem, and no solution seems to be forthcoming. I took the solution of simply rewriting all the tooltips to not use commas.

However, in the course of doing this, a series of crashes and a half-hour bug hunt led to the following discovery: a < (and presumably also >?) character in a tooltip crashes the game as soon as it is loaded. In the case of an ability given by using an item, it won't be apparent until that ability is actually added to a unit.

Holy shit, Blizzard, why.

/thread

 

[rulerofiron99]

Blizzard indeed.

<> characters are used when referencing data inside an ability, e.g.
<Abil,DataA1> would refer to data a1 (usually damage or something) in ability "Abil".

AFAIK this only works with ability tooltips, but I could very well be mistaken.

 

[WaterKnight]

Have you tried quoting the whole tooltip? Which kind of tooltips are we speaking of?

 

[Kurogamon]

Quoting the whole tooltip doesn't work, and common escapes like backticks don't either. The thing is, vanilla tooltips (Banish, for example) have commas in them, so at some point I think I'll widgetize a melee map and check the .txt files.

We're talking about ability tooltips in *AbilityFunc.txt (though I believe commas also cause issues in item description tooltips in ItemFunc.txt), specifically the entry labeled "Ubertip=".

 

[WaterKnight]

Quoting works for me. You do not have to widgetize a map, the map itself does not have the standard data anyway. You can look into wc3's mpqs. The strings are not in *Func.txt but the *Strings.txt by default.

 

[MassiveMaster]

Hey, I have a similar problem (I think). I changed some tooltip strings in the game-interface (directly in the editor not in a mpq), but wherever I use a comma the rest of the tooltip is cut out. Quoting out the whole string with '...' or "..." doesn't work. When I modify a default string with a comma already in it the problem also occures. So does someone know how I can get commas in there or is this not possible?!?

 

[WaterKnight]

The strings you setup in the world editor are outsourced in the wts file. And when retrieving from there, the quotes are part of the string, not its delimiters. You can manually edit and import a war3mapSkin.txt into your map.

 

[MassiveMaster]

Thx, that works for me. +Rep

 

[Vinz]

@OP: Maybe you can copy paste the Chinese character?

 

[Kurogamon]

Thorndale, WC3's font, does not have, and will not display the full-width comma.