Clash from the Past

[Moderator]

22:52, 16th Mar 2014
Orcnet: Good additions to the altered melee genres, approved and recommend as acceptable.

 

[Rili.C]

cool i gonna test P.S. i like your other BFS

 

[San_Melon]

looks realy nice and balanced
maby a better description
but all in all seems that good 4/5

 

[Dylanyo123]

i am hoping this map will come up to par with your other maps

 

[Moderator]

Orcnet

21:39, 19th Nov 2013

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Clash from the Past: Eldre'Thalas (Tested Version 2.05) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "The gaming mechanics is very bold and beautiful, especially on some of the races' has twist and turns as an example for the night elf race baring armies with tauren units." Terrain "Terrain is good looking, no much problem with the space gaps and so fort." Management "Overall map can be useful, as I have stated from above the category, do please give some game options and in-game designs that way you can progress and do better in the future." Total Score: (Gameplay[x/5] + Terrain[x/5] + Management[x/5] / Total Score[15] * 50 + 50) Rate Score Percent Letter 9/15 80% C

 

[Martyssz]

How much of these maps will be?

 

[Agrameer]

Going To Download And Try Out Now
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[Ujimasa Hojo]

This may be my last one for the time being given that school is starting already where I live.

 

[rafaelrq]

Really? That is so sad i would like to download more of these, like Orgrimmar or Ashenvale, or even Felwood. You could also update them to be more interesting

 

[Dylanyo123]

Awesome map! Its a shame u got school, i want more of these maps to release but what can you do? Good luck!

 

[coolcool246]

ahhhhhh likin these maps these catch mah eye 7/10

 

[Hordeon]

Its not a shame Dylanyo. Everyone needs to learn something

 

[Dwarf_King]

Game Crashes With Orcs

Every time I choose a race while playing as Orc, the game crashes within 10 minutes. Is there any reason for this? This doesn't happen with any other race.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

What kind of Orcs were you playing?

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Can other people confirm this?

 

[oldmilk]

Well, I'm not sure about the crash because I replayed the game before the 10 minute mark. Why? because in multiplayer LAN(single player by myself had no problems) me and my 2 friends chose orc, we had 4 other normal computer slots open set at random. I chose Fel, 1 chose Tuskarr, and the other chose normal Orcs. We all ended up normal orcs.

I was the host(player 1)
This was in the Stromgarde map, but I posted it here because Dwarf King also had an orc problem, and I wanted orc problems addressed on one page, so it would be easier for you to look at.

 

[RouGe_WiZaRD]

Game Crash Report

The game crashed within 10 min. Going to do more tries.......

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

I have fixed the faction selection thing but I am still not sure about the game crash... I found out about a lot of button misplacements but I'm not sure these were enogh to cause the crash. Does the crash happen in Kul'Tiras only or in other maps as well?

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

I've played single player with me and the computer players playing as the original Orcs. After a while there was no crash. Before, I was able to play Gnolls without crashing. It is either I was able to fix it in 1.16 or there is something else.

 

[RouGe_WiZaRD]

If I may suggest, I think you should ask some AI experts on how to make the AI choose and play the other races/factions. It will be more fun when you play because other players will get bored if their enemies are always the basic. But that's my point of view, only an advice.

-From a 4th year high school student from Philippines
Good luck to your studies.

 

[oldmilk]

The Wildkins have no manapool to cast Slam.

 

[GolluM_KoMe]

A melee map with 7 Mb oO oO oO
Guy, I suggest you to really reduce this! If you want your map not only played LAN (which roughly no one does) but also on Bnet, for melee map you should reduce it blow 3Mb AT LEAST !! I think your map will never be approved since this is that big...
But I know how hard it is to remove stuff from a map
GL ...

 

[The_Key]

Just by looking at the pics that show the maps in the map part of the site, makes me want to play the game

 

[black_ice]

cool map!

 

[VeljkoM]

Gnoll race is strange by my opinion.

Barracks- needs new name since it is overused.
Gnoll assassin is first unit you have and it is range. Shadow-meld and poison. Maybe my favorite unit?
Second unit is dark troll axe-thrower who is same as Headhunter kinds. So that's 2 range units and no melee at start at all. You need actually Bastion (second tier) for very weak melee unit Razormane brute.

Occult den-
Gnoll Shaman is copy of orc shaman but with second ability replaced by Anti-Magic shell. Berserk and purge remained.
Troll Shadow priest is same as creep version (same high damage which isn't usual for spelcaster duo to power of magic attack, Heal and Inner Fire also remain) unit but with second ability changed for stasis trap.
Kobold Geomancer isn't changed much except he has magic attack. Since you have Shaman with purge why have two dispel abilities?

Bivouac which kinda is strange building. It produces centaurs who are little stronger then starting units.
Centaur Impaler is again range unit (so that is 3 same unit types?) with only thing unique is heavy armor. Not mistake but still strange for range unit to have that armor. Expect maybe for speed attacks there is no reason for this unit.
Centaur Outrunner could be compared to Orc raider. He has separate melee attack for units and buildings and tauren pulverize ability. The idea could be explored more.

Nestling Grounds
Harpy scout, she is just like Human flying machine with replaced icons and names.
Wind-witch is as usually just like creep unit with replaced attack to be magic and abilities fairy fire and cyclone. New thing is invisibility. You can also upgrade her before you make Shop building.
Bronze Drake is ultimate air unit of gnolls. Kinda still same as creep version but with bouncing attack (witch for some reason didn't work for me). It is also very expensive, you didn't even change the original price, I mean food 5? And last but not least strange is that it can carry units?

Shipyard is unneeded. Just one ship which has separate upgrade of attack? Who would spend attack upgrade on just one unit.

Upgrades-You have 4 attack upgrades and 2 armor upgrades? 2 upgrades for two units, one for 3 units and one for ship. Also you have lumber mill and forge just like humans do.

About heroes they all use normal abilities. Centaur is Tauren Chieftain with windwalk for example? Gnoll Overseer is combo of Far seer and Archmage (you get the picture).
And Harpy is flying. Flying hero can be serious advantage.

Conclusion is that you mixed human and orc teach-trees and have added creeps. There is not much "original" and existing here.
Also this doesn't have to do with game play but Gnolls are Eastern Kingdom race wile Centaurs, Harpies and Bronze dragon are Kalimdorn Barrans race and Dark Trolls are from Kalimdor forests. So how or why would they join?

I'll post later for other races and sub races. From what I see Gnolls are probably most unique.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

I am going to do spells and abilities once I get free time. As of now, the structure of the different factions are what I completed although, the new ones are just an overlap of the original ones.

 

[Kl3sk]

Just by looking at the pics that show the maps in the map part of the site, makes me want to play the game

Don't be fooled, it's false advertising to get people to download his map.
To the author : I'm extremely disappointed. This map doesn't even deserve a rating or the time it took to download the blasted thing. I'm not going to test the other Battle for Supremacy maps because of the sour taste of failure this one gave to me.

- Rating : 1/5.

 

[Darkzealot_128]

Another great map in the series gj

 

[Qab]

First time playing one of these maps, and I have to admit, I was fairly impressed. Even though I usually don't play melee maps, altered or otherwise, for some reason today I decided to browse through and the image for this one was what first caught my eye. I like the fact that you have new races, close enough to the basic race that you can grasp it quickly, yet different enough to be unique and entertaining.
However, near my base (top-right corner) there was a villager next to a tavern like building. What I got from the description of the map was that you bought items from these people, but I couldn't find out how. When I looked in Quests, all it said was to talk to them, which I found maddenly unhelpful. My only critisicm of the map is that you should tell people how to buy items from these people. (If you do say how somewhere, make it more obvious, and if that person was just for decoration, then ignore the last paragraph )

-Qab

 

[Vengeancekael]

As a member of the group Map Reviewers, I will be reviewing your map :

[+] Terrain [+]
[+] Originality [+]
[+] Fun [+]
[-] Some empty spots [+]
[-] Large File Size [-]
[-] Weird mine placement [-]

I suggest you remove the preview image and the loading screen to reduce the file size.

Rating : 2/5
Status : Approval

EDIT : Nevermind, rejection [Kl3sk is right]

 

[Ironside]

Information:


As a Reviewer of the Map Reviewers Group, I joined the THW Cleaning Event.
I end up writing a fast review, or just posting the end state of the map, rating is not always included!


Current State for this map: Rejected


I will contact the moderator to Approve/Reject the map, depending on what you recieved.

 

[Ironside]

Information:


As a Reviewer of the Map Reviewers Group, I joined the THW Cleaning Event.
I end up writing a fast review, or just posting the end state of the map, rating is not always included!


Current State for this map: Rejected


I will contact the moderator to Approve/Reject the map, depending on what you recieved.

 

[Renly Baratheon]

Almost missed this one. I hope this one get Approved already.

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved, see moderator comment on top.

 

[Renly Baratheon]

Strange to use the Sunken Ruins for Trolls. At least its different.

 

[WolfenPiano]

Every time I try and upload the file to world edit to then run on War3 I get a message saying:

This application has encountered a critical error:

Not enough storage is available to process this command."

then it lists the download location as usual and then another message comes up: "Object: .?AV?$TSGrowableArray@UObjectChance@@@@"

I'm not much of a tech but what I do know is usually enough to get world edit to work.. any help?

P.S. Is there anybody I can talk to to receive the new version of world edit that's supposedly out? I think that may be a large problem but I've no idea where to get it.

Thanks for any help!

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

The map is optimized to reduce file and protect the hence. It cannot be opened by the World Editor.

 

[Kenshi1007]

The races sounding and building names could be improved, however there are some Natural Expansions (gold mines) that i cannot build a Great Hall (troll race) to harvest gold because of the ruins tileset.
You should add more features to the map for 4v4 melee. The artifact, economy and tem shops are quite good located in my opinion.

3.5/5 4/5

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

The races sounding and building names could be improved, however there are some Natural Expansions (gold mines) that i cannot build a Great Hall (troll race) to harvest gold because of the ruins tileset.
You should add more features to the map for 4v4 melee. The artifact, economy and tem shops are quite good located in my opinion.

3.5/5 4/5

Noted.

 

[Guildenstern]

It's good that you're expanding into non-Human cities as well with your series.

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved.

 

[Ian The Red]

Don't be fooled, it's false advertising to get people to download his map.
To the author : I'm extremely disappointed. This map doesn't even deserve a rating or the time it took to download the blasted thing. I'm not going to test the other Battle for Supremacy maps because of the sour taste of failure this one gave to me.

- Rating : 1/5.

Would you like to clarify as to WHY you would give such a low rating? Personally I see no reason that this map would give a "sour taste of failure". I found this map to be quite interesting, and the custom races, "even if edits on current races", to be quite fun. Ujimasa makes incredible building models as well as interesting map series and is a great contributor to the Hive, I don't see why this map would be a waist of time. The image is also not false advertising, it is a piece of artwork used to show the area of the Warcraft lore that he wants to represent. I hope that you can clear up what you were trying to convey, as without further evidence to support your claim I would even say you are Trolling and insulting the author of the map.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Would you like to clarify as to WHY you would give such a low rating? Personally I see no reason that this map would give a "sour taste of failure". I found this map to be quite interesting, and the custom races, "even if edits on current races", to be quite fun. Ujimasa makes incredible building models as well as interesting map series and is a great contributor to the Hive, I don't see why this map would be a waist of time. The image is also not false advertising, it is a piece of artwork used to show the area of the Warcraft lore that he wants to represent. I hope that you can clear up what you were trying to convey, as without further evidence to support your claim I would even say you are Trolling and insulting the author of the map.

That comment was before I updated the map.

 

[Ian The Red]

Thanks for clearing that up. Your stuff is all quite useful and interesting (hope you can get the Draenei textures from WoD for your next buildings). Good luck!

 

[Moderator]

10:42, 23rd Apr 2014
Orcnet: Map approved.

 

[Samahp]

Review

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Bad

Suggestions

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Many neutral buildings.

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I could not open the map. (Could not play it.)

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Make the map playable!

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

What do you mean the map is unplayable?

 

[Heinvers]

I think he tried to open the map in WE.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

I think he tried to open the map in WE.

He did say it can't be "played". Can you please try to play it.