City of Hell IV

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Orcnet

11:36, 11th June 2013

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City of Hell IV (No Version/s Stated ) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "City of Hell IV" is a Role Playing Game(RPG) map "Game play is cool but I don't like the idea of quests looking like chores for the players, anyhow needs more items and rpg specs but still good to play." Terrain "Terrain is decent but I was expecting it would be chaotic based on game title, I suggest if your going to redo the whole terrain make it look like a ruin city of some sort, darker or burning-like." Management "To my conclusion, maps seems alright to play as a RPG game." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 9/15 80% C

 

[Daffa]

Geez, now it's make sense why VK doesn't recommend -Kobas-'s Map Description Template.
Actually, you have to make a description from the Template, the template is for the code.
I recommend VK description Generator at Tools Section for better result.

 

[monkeyboy15]

Ah! Thanks, I was having a lot of issues getting it to work right.

 

[Daffa]

Screenshots are broken.

 

[monkeyboy15]

Fixed!

 

[Daffa]

Now There's no screenshots, where did you upload the images, they aren't appearing here.

 

[monkeyboy15]

They should be there. They're on my profile in the City of Hell album.

 

[Daffa]

did you set your Album to private?

 

[monkeyboy15]

Its public.

 

[Daffa]

Strange, lets see what the mods can do, anyway, can't dl it atm cuz I'm busy

 

[-SmaSHeR-]

Album might be disabled in settings
check profile privacy i had same problem

 

[monkeyboy15]

Thanks, now the screenshots should be working now.

 

[-SmaSHeR-]

Thanks, now the screenshots should be working now.

no problem bro

 

[Orcnet]

approved, see review on top

 

[FullVisor]

Terrain: Good
Units: Good
Props: Good
Total: Fun (Awesomeness)

 

[monkeyboy15]

approved, see review on top

Wow, thanks.

 

[AbaddonTheGod]

Does it have save/load system or it's just for a few hours of fun ?

 

[monkeyboy15]

Does it have save/load system or it's just for a few hours of fun ?

Save/loads.

 

[AzerothGrandPrix]

Could you add shared gold (like shared exp) coz of greedy allies who wanna killsteal all gold loots. I really like your map, as you can see I like small maps, rly small maps... since my internet speed's slow -_-

 

[monkeyboy15]

Could you add shared gold (like shared exp) coz of greedy allies who wanna killsteal all gold loots. I really like your map, as you can see I like small maps, rly small maps... since my internet speed's slow -_-

Shared gold, eh? Hmm I'll look in to it. Glad ya like it.

 

[TC_Firestar]

Awesome map

 

[monkeyboy15]

Awesome map

Thanks! ^_^

 

[Cokemonkey11]

Hello,

I tested your map. It's quite good! Here are my thoughts:

• Communicating with NPCs is a bit uncomfortable. You have it set so that standing close to them talks to them, but I think you could improve this by either changing the event to register when a player clicks the NPC while standing close by, or at least change the game constant "follow distance" so that if I right click an NPC I get close enough to speak to them.
• The game is very unintuitive for beginners, and managing your quests is sort of annoying. Right off the bat you get access to three quests which essentially amount to just killing something for gold and experience. That part is not so bad, but maybe enable just 1-2 quests at a time so players don't acquire 20 quests at once, only 1-2 of which they are capable of completing.
• I walked by miner willy and he didn't warn me that the units ahead would kill me in 1 hint (nor did he speak to me at all) Perhaps you should use messages like "Now entering zone xyz" as they do in Diablo, to warn players that they are at least in a new region with different foes.
• The necromancer "Raise Skeletons" ability should warn the user that he can have a maximum number of 2 skeletons. No such information is included in the tooltip.
• You should use pathing (sight) blockers to prevent things like this from happening: http://i.imgur.com/rbzvwEV.jpg It's really distracting to the immersion of the story
• You should use the unit name field, or some floating text to describe waypoint destinations. At level 1, there is no explanation of the navigable regions and essentially players are forced to waste time exploring a bunch of ares that offer them nothing
• You should include a backpack system, or some way of taking items with the intention of selling them. Not being able to pick up 2 armors is annoying.
• After killing a unit from a quest, the quest description never updates the "0/x monsters slain"
• I found my hero (necromancer)'s abilities just a little bit on the mundane side. I'd love to make you a new ultimate ability, or ability to replace decripify (if you're interested)
• I think you could make the game feel a bit less mundane by making quest rewards include a mana/health replenishment. Walking to a fountain is so tedious and just slows the game down
• Some spawned units have huge guard radii. I was chased by a dire mammath all the way to the waypoint you spawn at at level 1.
• Luring units to town guards is an easy way to get free experience and complete quests. You should fix that.

All in all it's a nice map with good content, good visuals and tooltips, and good terrain, but it mostly feels generic and mundane. There is no grasping story or unusual abilities, as far as I can see after about an hour of play.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Playing this on single player, and I have a few issues (some of them the same as above).

* Respawn is problematic in higher-tier areas, you can't get out and you can't go any further because the creeps take so long to kill (and in one case, they respawned right on top of me). Perhaps you could pause respawn for an area while your units are still in it.
* Abilities don't really scale well with dungeons or monsters: either they're so broken it's hilarious, or they might as well be level 1 for all the good they do. The Necromancer's skeleton is a good example of overpowered at first, and then underpowered by the time you get to the skeleton cave.
* Some discrepancies with the text: the quest giver asks you to kill Adult Ice Spiders, but they're called Giant Icy Spiders. The Poison Bolt also says it does damage over time, as opposed to seconds.
* Some hint as to which quest giver does what would be nice. I'm assuming Willy the miner and Giacinto the Paladin have quests to give, but thus far they haven't responded.
* Units have trouble with the way gates; they'll head for one, enter another, and give up and walk the long way to their destination.
* I didn't have many problems with creeps chasing for long distances (if anything, I was trying to get them to tail me so they could get slaughtered by the town guard), the problem is from how far away they get reinforcements. It took me five tries just to kill the front guards at the southeast city because the hydras keep showing up and summoning dragons as well.
* Serious imbalance in the creep difficulty and reward: Starter creeps take a few seconds to kill and give 10 gold, while that giant pink Faceless One took multiple attempts to get its so-high-it's-invisible HP down, for a reward of... 47 gold. I get that you're supposed to get money from selling equipment, but that's just ridiculous.
* You should add more levels to the regular abilities, ten empty levels is just weird.
* Found the corpse item... what do I do with it?
* A bug with the Skeletons: at some point trying to summon higher-levels failed, and I had to get it killed to be able to summon them correctly.

More as I come across, but thus far far it's been quite enjoyable.

 

[Kamakase]

good map needs work can you keep updating this please???

 

[Wark]

Interesting map with some challenging boss fights and instances. It would definitely be enjoyable in multiplayer co-op. I liked the shadow dungeon quite a bit.

 

[Ardenaso]

Playing solo with Druid is hard since his treant gets destroyed by the mammoths quickly. Good map though, been playing since its release.

 

[monkeyboy15]

Playing solo with Druid is hard since his treant gets destroyed by the mammoths quickly. Good map though, been playing since its release.

Imma add some sorta of monster power thing to the map soon.

 

[deepstrasz]

-the scarab looking amulet's description is broken; it's out of its box
-50 gold for a 2k HP carrying creature? More HP than even the hero has...
-Charm of Web actually throws a net
-quests do not update in the log with the corresponding numbers (eg: 2/5; they always remain 0/number); you can even have 13/12
-quests should be given depending on the hero level not letting heroes acquire a quest meant for level 20
-quests need proper description about where the giver is located and some coordinates for the place where to complete said task
-Paladin's level 2 stomp is too powerful
-Hell Hound's mana burn is useless until level 4 (not really that much of a problem)
-Mana Burn and Curse of the Hound works on the big golems in the cave but not other spells like Red Lightning; Charm of Web also does not work
-not a good idea to have multiple level units in the same cave/area
-respawning could be a bit faster
-potion prices are not balanced
-Large Healing potions do not stack....

2.5/5.

 

[Joinma]

Terrain 2.5/5
Simple, plain but definitely not lacking or anything special.
For example: The starting area. There should have been some board or sign for direction. Some other areas have many doodads standing there out of nowhere.
Game-play 2/5
Fountain everywhere. There were many floating texts at starting area but after that there were much less. For example: at the border between goblin area (level 30+) & ice troll area(level 3+).
Triggers 2/5
I did not see anything special or noticeable. The quest update in F9 was bugged. It did not update quest progressions.
Completion 2/5
The map was not completed. There were many things to fix. Many things were already mentioned by others. The completion of map seemed to be high at the starting area then it quickly decreased when players started to access other areas.

The map itself was acceptable (3/5) since it was playable but it definitely needs a lot of works.