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Black Dragon Buildings

This bundle is marked as pending. It has not been reviewed by a staff member yet.
Background:
This building pack this is commissioned by another community member on this site but after getting the models he suddenly stopped replying.
I tried to reach out to him here by sending him direct messages and spent days to recover my old discord account to contact him there.
Not sure but he unfriended me on discord after reading my message and i can no longer reach him there after this. He is still online on this site
from time to time but still not responding to my messages. I waited for almost two weeks for any response but still nothing.

I spent more than two weeks to make these models but I guess it is safe to say that I got scammed. The problem is I am expecting to add the payment
for this pack to my mother's medical expenses and pay for MRI and other laboratories required by the doctor. Generally what I earn from making
wc3 models and accepting commissions is intended for this purpose.

There are other modelers here that accepts commissions as well I would like to warn them about this user but I am not sure about the
proper way to do it in hive. But I guess for now I'll just make these models available for use by other map makers and gamers.
I hope you will find use with them in your maps.

If you find these models useful and appreciate it, please consider supporting via the links below it will help immensely.

Description:
Buildings for the black dragon flight faction and their minions.


Pit - equivalent of a townhall that trains worker units. Also serves as a drop off point for harvested resources.

Can be upgraded into Cavern and then Lair to unlock other buildings and units.

Cavern - 2nd tier upgrade of the Pit.


Lair - 3rd tier upgrade of the Pit.

Altar - primary structure for training and reviving heroes.


Dungeon - a structure that serves as a barracks for troops. Also contains upgrades for each units that it trains.


Arcane Temple - trains spellcaster units and contains upgrades for each units that it trains.

Arena - instead of a workshop the Dragon faction have the arena where recruits from other races can train and prove their usefulness to their dragon overlords.

Roost - trains flying units and contains their upgrades.

Forge - contains all the armor and weapon upgrades.

Quarry - contains upgrades relating to resource harvesting and buildings' armor.

Also serves as a drop off point for harvested lumber.

Treasure Hoard - it is where all the treasures (items) that the dragons collects are being stored. It serves as a shop similar to the arcane vault and others.

Tower - Defensive structure. Since a dragon sits a top of this tower, its attack have a basic missile splash effect.

Nest - a building that provides and stores food to enable the training of more units.

Notes:
  • The idea behind the design is to have the buildings built from obsidian. These materials can be harvested deep underground or from areas near a volcano
    and these materials can be processed in the Quarry.
  • The Lair upgrade or the 3rd tier of the Pit have an experimental attack animation that is intended to work like that of a Black Citadel of the undead.
  • I am not sure how to properly lay out the custom data for the lair and tower models to make their attack animations and projectile launch works smoothly
    so if you can figure it out please post it in the comments if possible.
  • I am provided by Aldeia a stone skin for the lair and treasure hoard. I will include the derivatives using this texture next update.

  • Notify me for any issues in each models.
  • Please give proper credits when using any models from this pack.
  • Please do not upload any part of this pack to other website/s.

I recently made a Patreon account it is still in the early stages of being set up but if you want please
consider being a supporter it will help immensely or consider supporting me via the links below:

Patreon: patreon.com/bakr_WC3
PayPal: PayPal.Me/bakrKev12

Discord: sirkd_

Just message me here on Hive or on Discord.
Contents

Altar (Model)

Altar (Icon)

Arcane Temple (Icon)

Arcane Temple (Model)

Arena (Model)

Arena (Icon)

Dungeon (Model)

Dungeon (Icon)

Forge (Icon)

Forge (Model)

Nest (Icon)

Nest (Model)

Quarry (Icon)

Quarry (Model)

Roost (Model)

Roost (Icon)

TH - "Cavern" (Icon)

TH - "Lair" (Icon)

TH - "Pit" (Icon)

TH - Pit - Cavern - Lair (Model)

Tower (Model)

Tower (Icon)

Treasure Hoard (Model)

Treasure Hoard (Icon)

Shar Dundred

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I don't know how much you were promised by the scammer for this pack but I have sent you a one time donation over at Patreon.
Let me know if it did not work. Your work, as well as everyone else's hard work, deserves to be compensated accordingly.

I also agree with what Stefan said.
 
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My condolences on getting scammed, these buildings are superb and its a shame that your work has gone unpaid.

While commissioning the Silvermoon Buildings I ended up paying in splits(which I am thankful that you have allowed me to do) beforehand. I suggest in the future that you take payment first and then you begin working. If its in the case of splits then work on only the number of models paid beforehand and send the rest once they have paid again.

I side with everyone in the comment section of this post, I think that you should reveal the scammer so that they get punished accordingly.

Great work as always on the models, sir!
 
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I side with everyone in the comment section of this post, I think that you should reveal the scammer so that they get punished accordingly.
I mean the scammer got what he wanted, but at least some "justice" could be done by banning the person behind it. He will do it again and again, that's for sure.
I'm just mad because a lot of hard work was put into making the models...
 
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I mean the scammer got what he wanted, but at least some "justice" could be done by banning the person behind it. He will do it again and again, that's for sure.
I'm just mad because a lot of hard work was put into making the models...
I stand by this 100%, it's a shame that bakr didn't get paid for the hard work he did. I am all for serving justice via a ban.
 
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thanks everyone for your concern and help. I will still provide fixes and updates for this pack in the coming future. I still want to improve the dragon lair and tower models to make the idea behind them work in game much better. I will also replace the icons for the pit-cavern-lair and treasure hoard in the next update.

regarding the person who made this commission i am currently in talks with johnwar and there is a possibility that this person is also the one who commissioned him before and did not pay for the 2nd project. but needs further confirmation.

but again thanks for all your support.
 
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Dude your models are awesome. I had plans for a Dragonkin faction for some time but useful buildings were rare. This really helps my map. I have also donated some money via Paypal.
thanks a lot sir.. i sent you a message there.

In addition to the obvious, these buildings could also be used in LOTR maps for Goblin or Mordor buildings.

Very awesome models! You certainly deserved payment on them. I'm glad you are getting some return from these good fellows here.
thanks sir. you are indeed right they can serve that purpose while waiting for herrdave's model packs for lotr.
 
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Just mention him here so people know who the scammer is.
It's really sad to hear you got scammed, these are all great models and you don't want to send them before you get the commission for them.
Agree with that, furthermore if i were you i would ask Ralle to issue a ban for such actions, this is a scum move...
 
A fine pack man, good to know you're also working on some other non-lore stuff that could be used by a lot of people, keep up the good work 👍
I'm really sorry to hear that such a thing happened to you and also touched your mom, this rotten person should be known to public.
By the way, I have an ultimate weapon against scammers: just do everything for free like me and you will never get scammed
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@bakr Respect and support for you man. As working as a freelancer for last few months (my fiance for years), I have seen many bad people and behaviors, scams around. It was matter of time until some of those appear here as well.

Anyway, this is amazing pack with very nice idea and details. That can be very well suitable and useful here.
5/5 + like from me!
 
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@bakr Respect and support for you man. As working as a freelancer for last few months (my fiance for years), I have seen many bad people and behaviors, scams around. It was matter of time until some of those appear here as well.

Anyway, this is amazing pack with very nice idea and details. That can be very well suitable and useful here.
5/5 + like from me!
thanks sir
 
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thanks for all the support and encouragement.. regarding the person who commissioned this we confirmed that its the same person with johnwar who used different accounts. the problem with just exposing his identity is he can just make another account so the problem now lies on us who accepts commissions on how to prevent this from happening. my fault in part as well for being too trusting and not setting up a system to prevent this. So right now I am thinking of just trying to manage the issue on the background to avoid anymore stress to myself and the community and instead focus on making models.

some people are already helping to address the issue. And right now I am just waiting for the results of their actions before making any move. I am very thankful for everyone especially those who reached out to me and offer help and also those who are taking action to address the issue.

Thanks again and no worries this will not discourage me from making more models since I am doing this for a cause and also originally I started making models for wc3 because I really love the game and the lore. I have this end goal of finishing my map a recreation of Azeroth that contains all the models that I made which started back in 2013.
 
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thanks for all the support and encouragement.. regarding the person who commissioned this we confirmed that its the same person with johnwar who used different accounts. the problem with just exposing his identity is he can just make another account so the problem now lies on us who accepts commissions on how to prevent this from happening. my fault in part as well for being too trusting and not setting up a system to prevent this. So right now I am thinking of just trying to manage the issue on the background to avoid anymore stress to myself and the community and instead focus on making models.

some people are already helping to address the issue. And right now I am just waiting for the results of their actions before making any move. I am very thankful for everyone especially those who reached out to me and offer help and also those who are taking action to address the issue.

Thanks again and no worries this will not discourage me from making more models since I am doing this for a cause and also originally I started making models for wc3 because I really love the game and the lore. I have this end goal of finishing my map a recreation of Azeroth that contains all the models that I made which started back in 2013.
Archian or Ralle can check for ip adress no?
I would highly suggest reporting that matter to them if the user is doing such actions...
 
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I feel very sorry to hear such news. I believe that collecting a deposit may be necessary.

Good model. But I don't think the skin of the stone looks very good.
there will be derivatives for this pack. the struggle with the texturing is the lack of skins that resembles burnt lands that are not from outland. and also texture that will not pixelate and looks too stretched. though i have chosen the current texture to give the pack a bit of contrast and break the constant black color shades.

as i said in the notes. i was provided by rock texture by another hive member though i am still trying to figure out the right application for it.
 

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@Archian or @Ralle can check for ip adress no?
I would highly suggest reporting that matter to them if the user is doing such actions...
The scammer account in question has been taken care of, further action to prevent this person
from further poisoning our community is currently being looked into at my behest.
 
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@bakr, just to remind you something. Many of us here are trusted people and are for years here and know each other. Many of people here already made their names and are known by community and made tons of assets and helped others for years, joined projects etc... So anyone with 2 grams of brain will not even think to fool someone like this, yet to do this for real. So banning here is completely useful thing because he will be forced to create a new account, but therefore nobody will know him and trust him in turn! He must spend years to prove himself, and man of that type is not capable of that, thus when people start rejecting his offer he will eventually give up. Dont be discouraged to cooperate just like before, but with trusted people. When dealing with new and nontrusted, then take different approach.
Last night we had some party here at my place and I was talking about this case of scam as it hit me honestly, I felt bad little that this happened.
 
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Another Blizzard's flop!
Be sure, bakr does his job 5 times better than faulty corporations (its now blizzard + microsoft). I just had dinner with my fiance and we spoke about this faulty patch 2.0 and those faked AI official screenshots Blizzard did. And I just told her its much better to give hard earned money to that man (I showed her those dragon buildings bakr made) rather to give money to corporations and their criminals.
 
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@bakr, just to remind you something. Many of us here are trusted people and are for years here and know each other. Many of people here already made their names and are known by community and made tons of assets and helped others for years, joined projects etc... So anyone with 2 grams of brain will not even think to fool someone like this, yet to do this for real. So banning here is completely useful thing because he will be forced to create a new account, but therefore nobody will know him and trust him in turn! He must spend years to prove himself, and man of that type is not capable of that, thus when people start rejecting his offer he will eventually give up. Dont be discouraged to cooperate just like before, but with trusted people. When dealing with new and nontrusted, then take different approach.
Last night we had some party here at my place and I was talking about this case of scam as it hit me honestly, I felt bad little that this happened.
thanks sir for your support and encouragement!
Another Blizzard's flop!
Be sure, bakr does his job 5 times better than faulty corporations (its now blizzard + microsoft). I just had dinner with my fiance and we spoke about this faulty patch 2.0 and those faked AI official screenshots Blizzard did. And I just told her its much better to give hard earned money to that man (I showed her those dragon buildings bakr made) rather to give money to corporations and their criminals.
i really thought that that screenshots are the new sd+ models until I watched the reviews about it. well if blizzard will actually use their resources and manpower correctly they are actually capable of delivering such quality.

side note..
when i tried to look into reforged before if i am not mistaken it requires logging in to battlenet right? or you must log in to an online account to access the game? Is it still the case?

i didnt buy reforged before for some reasons. Primarily, i feel like its a hassle not being able to play it offline and It seems like I am not actually buying the game but paying for access. And in the near future if somehow blizzard decided to stop hosting, supporting or updating the game then removed it from their platform then its just a waste of time and money.

like i dont own the game I just paid them to allow me to play it. something like that.
 
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thanks sir for your support and encouragement!
Hey, you welcome! I am glad to talk to you. And thank you for making tons of good models. I have no time for my ones lately, but when see your work it forces me to put something in map just to see it ingame. But I guess you wont guess correctly which building pack of yours is my favorite. I like all your packs very much, but still one is my favorite. Try to guess. :cgrin:
when i tried to look into reforged before if i am not mistaken it requires logging in to battlenet right? or you must log in to an online account to access the game? Is it still the case?
Ah sorry, I cant answer that as I do not remember. I bought it 4 years ago, pre-purchased it (as a gift from my fiance). After that flop and disaster release, I uninstalled it and never ever used it so I cannot remember how they set that up really. That answer will have to give you one of guys still using Reforged.
 
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