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Reforged Beta Patch 1.32.0.5 Feedback

Discussion in 'Patch & Reforged Discussion' started by Tommi Gustafsson, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. Tommi Gustafsson

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    Since there is no thread for Beta Patch 1.32.0.5, I decided to create one.

    Tested Temple of the Old Gods v11.

    Good
    • Menus are working now better

    Terrain Comparison

    In Patch 1.32.0.5, terrain textures still look the same, but there is better lighting/shadows now (lighting setting on Medium, shadows on Low). Skull Braziers also look better.

    Comparison of Patch 1.32.0.5 and 1.32.0.4

    terrain-comparison.jpg


    BAD. Mushrooms are still missing texture in-game. It appears in editor, though.


    WC3ScrnShot_011020_175715_001.png



    GOOD. Emerald Thrones now face the right direction.

    Previously they faced wrong directions. So, now Blizzard has put some effort to make doodads face their original (SD) direction.


    WC3ScrnShot_011020_181704_001.png


    BAD. Sunken Ruins dirt is still missing runic signs.

    Are they gonna add terrain variations at all? What is the reason they are missing?


    WC3ScrnShot_011020_182549_001.png


    BAD. Preview Screen is still not working.

    They are not using war3mapPreview.tga anymore. I could not find any updated system either to show the custom preview screen. Maybe they could add a tool in the options to upload your own image. And surely, they should look for war3mapPreview.tga for compatibility reasons.


    WC3ScrnShot_011120_183151_001.png
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2020
  2. Razorclaw_X

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    Read that the Chaos Space Orc model was completely removed from the game-- not just the HD model being the Terran Marine, the SD model is also a Terran Marine. Sure enough, it's true-- the flamethrower Orc is gone.
     
  3. deepstrasz

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    Maybe it wants .dds now as suggested by @Dr Super Good on some thread?
     
  4. Tommi Gustafsson

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    The menus are made as a HTML page that is running a ReactJS application, so maybe it wants a PNG file, as a web browser cannot read TGA files. But it still can read war3mapMap.blp, so they have atleast made a BLP->JPG/PNG conversion.
     
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  6. Tommi Gustafsson

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    Terrain Comparison 2 SD (Actual WC3 TFT) vs HD (Reforged Beta 1.32.0.5)

    Here's also a comparison of SD graphics and Reforged HD graphics.

    terrain-comparison-2.jpg

    I think we can say that SD terrain looks better than HD. Some obvious problems:
    • Terrain Tiles are too small compared to SD
    • There are not enough big variations, like green grassy areas or big white tiles in the tiles
    • Terrain Tiles are also 45 degrees in a wrong direction; they do not blend with the edges of the cliffs.
    • Stone pillars in the background, which are done with the Terrain Cliff Raise Tool (Raise 2 Cliff Levels), are facing 45 degrees wrong direction.
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    • Altar is too small and not of the Sunken Ruins style.
    • Faceless Ones are too small.
    • Lighting is less vibrant in Reforged.
    It is hard to say that Reforged is a graphical upgrade. Surely, if you look at some models in close, it seems much better, but something should be done with the terrain texture, since it is in a big part in the whole graphical outlook.
     
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  7. mori

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    It's surprising how little effort went into ensuring that HD content matched with SD content in terms of dimensions, style and overall look, considering that a huge selling point of Reforged (at least, from my impression) was that Reforged would work nicely with old maps. It's unfortunate that this is not the case.
     
  8. Ardenaso

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    I ask for any noticed changes and here's what I pooled from the official forums:
    • all archers now have a "better slouch"
    • hippogryph now has better colors
    • new Firelord skin
    • new Marketplace variant
    • some better particles and animations they didn't bother to specify
    • the Orc Warlord's model completely removed and made similar to Slave Master (though they have different animations)
    • Doom Guard and Doom Guard Summon have better textures and changed skeletons
    • Phoenix now has better particles and VFX
    • Hydralisk now closes its flaps when not attacking
    I've also heard that the red succubus has been recolored to purple? anyone confirm?
     
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  9. Wadjet

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    Tried .dds. Didn't work. Gonna try a few other formats and report back.

    EDIT: .png, .blp, .tga aren't working either.