Arctic Blast 1.0.0.5

[Moderator]

Submission: Arctic Blast 1.0.0.5 Date: 20.07.2015 Status: Approved Rating: 3/5 Review Link Moderator: IcemanBo

 

[BPower]

Hi thanks for posting your ideas in the spell section.

Public resources in this form section follow a certain style of coding, guided by the spell submission rules.
I would like to point out a few things you have to and some which can be done different.

1. Your spell requires a configuration trigger, where you set up i.e level based data.
The config trigger should also cover information like the spell ability raw, aswell as dummy raw.
Store configurable data in variables, so users can quickly manipulate these value to his needs.
You also should use these variables in your code, instead of hardcoded values.
If you're not sure how-to-do a config trigger, check out already approved GUI resources.

2 Your instancing should be be done via dynamic indexing,
there are a few different allocation possibilities ( various linked list , ... )
However dynamic indexing remains most convinient for GUI spells.
For non public spells, you may stick to your style, for public releases not.

3. By our rules the manipulation CustumValue of a unit is strictly reserved to UnitIndexer systems.

4. The total amount of nova shards should be configurable for users. You have to
calculate the angle offset to each other ( 360/amount ).

5. You agree that this location is useless.

• Set ArcticBlastPoint = (Position of (Picked unit))
• Unit - Kill (Picked unit)
• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_ArcticBlastPoint)

6. Do not use harcoded values in your code ( effects, damage, ... )
Everything should be configurable and stored in variables in your config trigger.
Then use these variables in your code.

Currently your spell has the status Need Fix.

 

[Stork]

Hi thanks for posting your ideas in the spell section.

Public resources in this form section follow a certain style of coding, guided by the spell submission rules.
I would like to point out a few things you have to and some which can be done different.

1. Your spell requires a configuration trigger, where you set up i.e level based data.
The config trigger should also cover information like the spell ability raw, aswell as dummy raw.
Store configurable data in variables, so users can quickly manipulate these value to his needs.
You also should use these variables in your code, instead of hardcoded values.
If you're not sure how-to-do a config trigger, check out already approved GUI resources.

2 Your instancing should be be done via dynamic indexing,
there are a few different allocation possibilities ( various linked list , ... )
However dynamic indexing remains most convinient for GUI spells.
For non public spells, you may stick to your style, for public releases not.

3. By our rules the manipulation CustumValue of a unit is strictly reserved to UnitIndexer systems.

4. The total amount of nova shards should be configurable for users. You have to
calculate the angle offset to each other ( 360/amount ).

5. You agree that this location is useless.

• Set ArcticBlastPoint = (Position of (Picked unit))
• Unit - Kill (Picked unit)
• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_ArcticBlastPoint)

6. Do not use harcoded values in your code ( effects, damage, ... )
Everything should be configurable and stored in variables in your config trigger.
Then use these variables in your code.

Currently your spell has the status Need Fix.

Thanks for your reply. I will change all the details that listed above as soon as possible

 

[IcemanBo]

I saw your post in T&S forum so I guess you will make some changes.

Some more notes to https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/dynamic-indexing-usage.266859/post-2696778.

- Store responses into variables if used more often. (PickedUnit for example)
- Don't use IntegerA, but your own integer variable instead.
- " Set ArcticBlastGroup = (Units within 200.00 of ArcticBlastOffset matching ((((Matching"...
^This line is very unreadable. Pick all units in range, and then better filter them via If/Then/Else - multiple check.
- Some points by BPower still needs to be changed.

 

[Stork]

Updated to 1.0.0.1 Version

 

[IcemanBo]

• Don't use Integer A. Use your own custom integer instead.
• Index TriggeringPlayer onCast.
  It is used over and over again onLoop.
• Store responses like "CreatedUnit", "PickedUnit"
  into temp variables to reduce function calls.
• Set ArcticBlastReal = 0.00 -> redundant operation onCast.

• (Ability being cast) Equal to Arctic Blast

  If I'm not mistaken you use the data from object editor in here. (can't test it)
  If so, please change it to the ArticBlast spell variable.
• PickedUnit needs to be stored into a variable onLoop.
• When you assign your variable "Set ArcticBlastGroup" onLoop, filter the units
  with help if a multiple If/Then/Else statement.
  1. You can use a variable for unit.
  2. Much more readable.
• You currently create for each PickedUnit a dummy to cast "slow".
  Try to reduce the amount of unit creation.
  Best scenario would be to use only one global dummy at all.
• If a group will be destroyed, there no need to remove units from it before.
• Could you explain, please why you should do this onDeindex:
  

  Custom script: set udg_ArcticBlastDummyGroup[udg_ArcticBlastIndex] = CreateGroup() Custom script: set udg_ArcticBlastDamagedGroup[udg_ArcticBlastIndex] = CreateGroup()

• The periodic trigger should be initialy be turned off,
  and it is good you turn it on only if there is an instance.
  Now it also should be turned off again, when there is none anymore.
  It can and should be done onDeindex in your loop.
• The recommended value for periodic event in GUI is 0.03.

Please read all points carefuly before updating.
The screenshot from spell looks good.

 

[Stork]

If I'm not mistaken you use the data from object editor in here. (can't test it)
If so, please change it to the ArticBlast spell variable.

It was my mistake, i'll change it later on.

The periodic trigger should be initialy be turned off,
and it is good you turn it on only if there is an instance.
Now it also should be turned off again, when there is none anymore.
It can and should be done onDeindex in your loop.

Yes it should be turned off again, and i already done this .

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • ArcticBlastIndex Equal to 0
  • Then - Actions
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
  • Else - Actions

PickedUnit needs to be stored into a variable onLoop.

I remembered i have done this but only in my old version i forgot to do it again when come to update the new version.

• Custom script: set udg_ArcticBlastDummyGroup[udg_ArcticBlastIndex] = CreateGroup()
• Custom script: set udg_ArcticBlastDamagedGroup[udg_ArcticBlastIndex] = CreateGroup()

Could you explain, please why you should do this onDeindex:

Because of these lines:

• Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_ArcticBlastDummyGroup[udg_ArcticBlastLoopIndex])
• Custom script: call DestroyGroup(udg_ArcticBlastDamagedGroup[udg_ArcticBlastLoopIndex])

I removed those 2 unit groups, if i don't create them again, it will mark as "null" and my spell stop working immidiatetly. Since visual dummies are stored in this unit group, and also the damaged unit stored in another one, it need to stay in there for the duration of the spell, otherwise they will be non-affected in this spell.

The recommended value for periodic event in GUI is 0.03.

I want a "smooth" visual effect so i set to 0.02, and its way easier to calculate numbers in there, its not approximately but its exactly equal. And more importantly, it doesnt cause any serious lag so i might get your permession to stick with this 0.02 periodic

Summary: Things are not quoted above mean that i agreed with you.

 

[IcemanBo]

The LastIndex won't be used currently if you deIndex, I have problems to understand atm
what should cause a bug then when you don't re-create group[lastIndex].
It will be used again when you index again, but then you anyway will re-create it,
because you have a check "if group[index]== null] then CreateGroup()".

Will it be unsmooth with 0.03? Also when calculating you can use it will end up in "value*0.03".
So would not really change something.
Could you test it, it still should look all smooth?

 

[Stork]

The LastIndex won't be used currently if you deIndex, I have problems to understand atm
what should cause a bug then when you don't re-create group[lastIndex].
It will be used again when you index again, but then you anyway will re-create it,
because you have a check "if group[index]== null] then CreateGroup()".

Will it be unsmooth with 0.03? Also when calculating you can use it will end up in "value*0.03".
So would not really change something.
Could you test it, it still should look all smooth?

"if group[index]== null] then CreateGroup()".
Yes of course i have to have that line. But somehow that line only being triggered on the first cast, after the first cast, it stop working and i can't figure out so i have to re-create new unit group

There are 2 issues:
*1: if i don't re-create the DummyGroup, its stop working after the first cast
*2: if i don't re-create the DamagedGroup, picked units will be damaged every loop after the first cast

0.03 works better than i thought, and i did change it to 0.03 already

btw

You currently create for each PickedUnit a dummy to cast "slow".
Try to reduce the amount of unit creation.
Best scenario would be to use only one global dummy at all.

I understand that reduce the amount of unit creation will avoid lagging. But i'm struggling with the "use only one", what does that mean? Does it mean i use only 1 dummy to slow all the damaged unit? how can i do that? how can i use only 1 dummy to slow all the damaged units at the same time?

 

[Daffa]

I understand that reduce the amount of unit creation will avoid lagging. But i'm struggling with the "use only one", what does that mean? Does it mean i use only 1 dummy to slow all the damaged unit? how can i do that? how can i use only 1 dummy to slow all the damaged units at the same time?

Rheiko made a tutorial at Tutorial Section sometime ago for this, just check it.

 

[Rheiko]

Check my tutorial on my signature.

 

[Stork]

Rheiko made a tutorial at Tutorial Section sometime ago for this, just check it.

Check my tutorial on my signature.

Seems pretty simple but its quite useful, thanks for showing me this tutorial

 

[Stork]

Updated to 1.0.0.2 Version!

 

[BPower]

Just set ArcticBlastReal always to 0.
The if then else condition add unwanted overhead.

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • ArcticBlastReal Not equal to 0.00
  • Then - Actions
    • Set ArcticBlastReal = 0.00
  • Else - Actions

ArcticBlastEffect amount could be based on the ability level.

Within the dummy creation, you should replace OwnerOf(TriggeringUnit) with
the stored player handle in ArcticBlastTriggerPlayer.

Use RemoveUnit() for killing the dummy caster unit.

Your de-indexing is not done correctly. You overwrite existing group handles
by using the CreateGroup native. You have to set it from max index to current index
set group[index] = group[maxIndex]

offset in x/y is constant per loop and could be calculated once in your cast trigger.

 

[Stork]

Your de-indexing is not done correctly. You overwrite existing group handles
by using the CreateGroup native. You have to set it from max index to current index
set group[index] = group[maxIndex]

I don't really understand what are you trying to tell me. i don't think my de-indexing is not done correctly, can you explain further?
And also i did set from max index to current index.

• Set ArcticBlastDummyGroup[ArcticBlastLoopIndex] = ArcticBlastDummyGroup[ArcticBlastIndex]
• Set ArcticBlastDamagedGroup[ArcticBlastLoopIndex] = ArcticBlastDamagedGroup[ArcticBlastIndex]

 

[Stork]

Updated 1.0.0.3

 

[IcemanBo]

• In config "radius" and "distance" might come in conflict of undestanding.
  The "radius" variable is meant for AoE damage (when it hits unit) and also should be called so.
• Index the position of caster. Dummy's movement should not depend on the current position of caster.
  For example, if caster moves fast, it looks a bit weird, and if caster would teleport away,
  it would make no sense because then all dummies also would teleport with him.
• Or don't make the periodic interval configurable, or also use the variable for event of your trigger.
  At the moment, it is configurable, but hardcoded in event as "0.03".

Group indexing looks good now. Spell is fine and seams to work good.

This can be approved soon.

 

[Stork]

In config "radius" and "distance" might come in conflict of undestanding.
The "radius" variable is meant for AoE damage (when it hits unit) and also should be called so.

I will do it soon.

Index the position of caster. Dummy's movement should not depend on the current position of caster.
For example, if caster moves fast, it looks a bit weird, and if caster would teleport away,
it would make no sense because then all dummies also would teleport with him.

Basically, i make this based on Shiva's Guard from DotA which means the Blast will attach to the caster's position till the max distance reached!
Of course it doesnt cause any problems for me to change it but i want to maintain the idea from dota .

 

[IcemanBo]

It seems strange for me, but if you prefer to bind it with caster's position, okay.

 

[Stork]

Updated 1.0.0.4

 

[Ofel]

QUICK REVIEW|Arctic Blast|1.0.0.4

Rating: 4/5

PROS	Trigger is coded well and neat. Spell comes along with buff.
CONS	Laggy. With just 2 casts at the same time, my fps drop to almost 25.
SUGGESTIONS	To move the dummies, use this instead: Custom script: call SetUnitX(udg_ArcticBlastVisualDummyUnit, GetLocationX(udg_ArcticBlastOffset)) Custom script: call SetUnitY(udg_ArcticBlastVisualDummyUnit, GetLocationY(udg_ArcticBlastOffset))

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If you have any question about this review, PM or VM me

 

[IcemanBo]

Submission:
Arctic Blast 1.0.0.5

Concept: 3/5

The caster circulary shoots projectiles that damage and slow enemies on touch.
The projectiles are relative to the position of the caster, and not independant.
It mimics "Shiva's Guard" from dota, and so the concept is used already.


Code: 3.5/5

The code is written in GUI.
The core is pretty simple, but it's executed well.

- One global dummy could be used for slowing affected units.


Visuals: 3/5

Visuals could be imporved a bit.
The used effect looks freezing, yes, but it more reminds of kind of splash/AoE damage.
The armor as icon is not very fitting in my opinion.
Icon is changed.


Conclusion: 3.2 -> 3/5

Approved

All looks okay
but add proper import instructions and spell description and I will approve it.
You can or post here or just contact me when done.

 

[Stork]

Concept: 3/5

The caster circulary shoots projectiles that damage and slow enemies on touch.
The projectiles are relative to the position of the caster, and not independant.
It mimics "Shiva's Guard" from dota, and so the concept is used already.


Code: 3.5/5

The code is written in GUI.
The core is pretty simple, but it's executed well.

- One global dummy could be used for slowing affected units.


Visuals: 3/5

Visuals could be imporved a bit.
The used effect looks freezing, yes, but it more reminds of kind of splash/AoE damage.
The armor as icon is not very fitting in my opinion.


Conclusion: 3.2 -> 3/5

All looks okay
but add proper import instructions and spell description and I will approve it.
You can or post here or just contact me when done.

Updated 1.0.0.5 with all features you mentioned above, including new icon for spell.

 

[IcemanBo]

- Add proper spell description as mentioned.
- Give proper credits for used imports.
- Also mention needed object data in import instructions.
- You changed from 1dummy/cast to 1dummy/instance I think? One dummy for all instances that is never removed would also do the job.

 

[Stork]

- Add proper spell description as mentioned.
- Give proper credits for used imports.
- Also mention needed object data in import instructions.
- You changed from 1dummy/cast to 1dummy/instance I think? One dummy for all instances that is never removed would also do the job.

Actually the icon comes from Dota 2, so crediting to Valve in my opinion is not necessary . But anyway i will still give a credit for Valve.

Hmm i don't think 1 global dummy that never got removed is good. Because sometimes you need to add more conditions (which i don't want to) to check, because once created, the owner of that dummy need to be changed constantly or the Spell that the dummy uses need to be able to cast on both ally and enemy, again i don't want it. Finally, i want to keep mine as simple as it can. Anw, thanks for your opinion

p/s: I updated mine too, but its still 1.0.0.5, which include things that you mentioned above

- Give proper credits for used imports.
- Also mention needed object data in import instructions.

 

[IcemanBo]

Add proper spell description as mentioned as mentioned as mentioned.

 

[Stork]

Add proper spell description as mentioned as mentioned as mentioned.

Added spell description as mentioned as mentioned as mentioned as mentioned above.

 

[IcemanBo]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Approved

 

[Necromancer]

Great spell. Just question please.

I would like to change it to my liking please. I want to keep it as it is but instead of having 4 levels I want just 1 and decrease the damage from 400 to 200. When I changed those in the objects manager none of them applied and the animation changed too. How can I change those 2 settings?
Edit : also to make it structable, I changed targets allowed but no structures are being blasted.

 

[Stork]

Great spell. Just question please.

I would like to change it to my liking please. I want to keep it as it is but instead of having 4 levels I want just 1 and decrease the damage from 400 to 200. When I changed those in the objects manager none of them applied and the animation changed too. How can I change those 2 settings?
Edit : also to make it structable, I changed targets allowed but no structures are being blasted.

Its all triggered, you need to read the Spell Configuration and other things in order to change some settings that you would like to.

 

[Oljin]

spell works fine and is easy to import, good job!

 

[takigawareiji]

wait im confused with the last install instruction ''-Simply copy the Dummy, Arctic Blast Dummy (Unit) and Arctic Blast, Arctic Blast Slow (Abillity) from the Object Edtior, then finally copy the "Arctic Blast" folder and then paste into your map and you're done'' so i open the arctic blast map>trigger editor> then copy paste the Arctic Blash folder from my custom map>trigger editor? sorry im new to this site.

 

[Pyrogasm]

You need to copy the object editor data before you copy over the trigger data. The triggers refer to the rawcodes (unit-type for units) of the various objects, so they must exist first when pasting the trigger otherwise it won't know what to put there. Likewise, if some objects depend on other objects (ex: a unit that has a spell in its spell list or an ability that has a buff) you must copy the dependency before the dependent object (for the same reason).

 

[takigawareiji]

You need to copy the object editor data before you copy over the trigger data. The triggers refer to the rawcodes (unit-type for units) of the various objects, so they must exist first when pasting the trigger otherwise it won't know what to put there. Likewise, if some objects depend on other objects (ex: a unit that has a spell in its spell list or an ability that has a buff) you must copy the dependency before the dependent object (for the same reason).

I already did the instruction from first to last from what i did is i open the (Arctic Blast Map\Object Editor Data\Units\Copy the 'Arctic Blast Dummy' and 'Dummy' and also (Arctic Blast Map\Object Editor\Abilities\Arctic Blast Slow and Arctic Blast) the last is to copy the ''Arctic Blast'' Folder which is in Trigger Editor from ''Arctic Blast Map'' then i copy and paste it to my map. I also import some texture img file's for the icon skill of Arctic Blast, Import Manager full path already did i just copy from Arctic Blast Map. Then when i try it on my map to see if its working the skill icon is fine the only problem is the animation effect is missing when casting it or maybe this custom spell is not working anymore since its too old.

 

[Daffa]

Did you check the Config trigger and make sure the variables are correct?

 

[takigawareiji]

Did you check the Config trigger and make sure the variables are correct?

yes the config trigger is all fine and its the same like the arctic blast map config trigger i dont know what to do the animation effect is still bothering me anyway heres my map you can check if theres somthing i did wrong but im sure i did it correctly from import instruction.