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All of Cookie's models are removed, INCLUDING THE DRACOLICH

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Cookie removed his models ages ago. He doesn't like people who, strait quote from him

1-Hated it because upload system (still hate it). You have to take down the existing model entry, recreate the upload , add info again etc. The forum was a better place to upload as it was in a more controllable environment.

2-Too lightly administration (People snatching stuff that republicola and me released and put it under their name, claiming its their work, and people actually believe it as well ..yes it was the Ninja model...and like after 6 months action was taken?). IMO this was the biggest thing that caused me to leave. People are too naïve to believe things as they are posted, without wondering where and how. Other example was the cannon (thoug they are old , it was mainly about the idea)

3-Too lightly with the ratings. Ratings should be removed IMO. Having people rate simple things 5 and complex things a 5 as well is just out of proportion and depressing for someone who put time and effort with it, while another guy just shamelessly uses vex animation transfer proggy and churn a non optimised geomerge without even skin alteration or optimisation.
Also related to the floodwaves of easy geomerging without any effort of optimising or skin alteration.

4-The comments section under the downloads was 95% useless, which had no real contribution to the model improvements and bug reports (havent changed as it seems). Like "OMGZ it suckz, you suck" or like "omg how you do that what tools etc?" or "how do I IMPORT THE ThiGNG HELP!". Or like, giving comments about something they have barely tested it and just assuming it is done in the same way as others.

Well, he started to repost some models. He might reupload the NWN models that you all love, he might not. Just don't bug him to death about them

EDIT: Reposting them on the site will get you an instant banning
 
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Sopho said:
I think its because he doesnt want people skinning his models (there are a few in the skin section) because they arent good enough for him or something....

That's a peculiar personality flaw, I think. :( If you're as good as Cookie, you should overlook the fact that those skins suck, and rather ackowledge the fact that people (apparently) like his models so much.
 
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he has deleted them already a few weeks ago, i don't know why. i like his models, they are all 5/5. fortunately, i downloaded all before he deleted them
 
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"Oh waaaah people are submitting low quality stuff and getting it posted next to my work so I'm leaving waaah!"

Good riddance to his sorry *** and his elitest attitude, then....

Besides, some of those models were ripped from Neverwinter Nights....so what if someone else rips them from that game...then can they be reposted...? Or are ripped models now trademarked to the people who originally ripped them for some reason?
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the demon spider was his best, and is actually a NWN- no its not. its a D&D creature called the bebilith, a demonic spider from the 14th (i think) level of the abyss. it tears though armor with a special mucus that is secreted from its mouth onto its forearms.
Dont you just HATE D&D chicks?
 
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Its a creature from NWN, which is actualy a computer DnD game. Demon Spider

And he left because of the quality control that was around back when he left. IE: I wasn't moderator, so there was no control. You can still find his stuff at the Hubb if you want
 
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Sorry to hear that, but he should have known that many noobs dunno what is a good skin and what isnt. In my opinion, a good skin is something that looks good and has a use for many people(thats why I find Wormskull greatly misplaced, who is more of an expert commentator and can sometimes go wild on useable skins).

Its bad to hear stuff like that, but besides, if I need a model or skin, I know other ways to go. This aint the only site and I know some skinners and modelers pretty well! :wink:

Send me pms if you want me to keep my Barney skin up on the site. If I get less than three, I will remove it in honor of Cookie. :D

But I agree,VGsatomi, those models will allways be marked as trademarks of Cookie, and therefore will be deleted of people knowing this. Too bad.
 
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At last! My complain was finally heard...but I don't like the way Mecheon speaks to ppl. Sorry for that Im not the only one who said that. Ok...getting off-topic.

I'm so sad that he deleted his creations. I was browsing his Green Dragon Lord but then I did'nt saw it. I need it badly for my campaign. So I decided to cancel my campaign which is 60% complete. I complained about it 3 weeks ago.

Hey, anyone of you who downloaded the Dragon? Please pm me. I need that for my another campaign, I'll give the Dracolich for it.
 
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At last! My complain was finally heard...but I don't like the way Mecheon speaks to ppl. Sorry for that Im not the only one who said that. Ok...getting off-topic.

I'm so sad that he deleted his creations. I was browsing his Green Dragon Lord but then I did'nt saw it. I need it badly for my campaign. So I decided to cancel my campaign which is 60% complete. I complained about it 3 weeks ago.

Hey, anyone of you who downloaded the Dragon? Please pm me. I need that for my another campaign, I'll give the Dracolich for it via yahoo messenger.
 
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You mean the green dragon model of which a modified (I think) version is used as main building for Dragons in RotD? I've got it, tell me what your email is and I'll send it to you. I don't need the Dracolich, you can keep it.
 
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DeadDogNoGoWoof said:
I think Cookie was a jerk, and overreacted. Its only a website, after all. and yet, those skins did suck....there are two sides. The good modeler vs. the bad skinners, though ^ there he posted a new model, maybe he reconsidered. Well i don't think Cookie had very good reasons, but his models' rocked. Good models like those dont come along very often any more.
]

You never checked my comment on my thing right?...

(at http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Models&ID=2079&sid=93ee71d433876e7515a7d77a16b75dd7)

["Cookie FTW 5/5

I thought you said that wc3sear.ch was for noobs and you didn't want to post any more models for it?"

You guys never got the facts right:

1-Hated it because upload system (still hate it). You have to take down the existing model entry, recreate the upload , add info again etc. The forum was a better place to upload as it was in a more controllable environment.

2-Too lightly administration (People snatching stuff that republicola and me released and put it under their name, claiming its their work, and people actually believe it as well ..yes it was the Ninja model...and like after 6 months action was taken?). IMO this was the biggest thing that caused me to leave. People are too naïve to believe things as they are posted, without wondering where and how. Other example was the cannon (thoug they are old , it was mainly about the idea)

3-Too lightly with the ratings. Ratings should be removed IMO. Having people rate simple things 5 and complex things a 5 as well is just out of proportion and depressing for someone who put time and effort with it, while another guy just shamelessly uses vex animation transfer proggy and churn a non optimised geomerge without even skin alteration or optimisation.
Also related to the floodwaves of easy geomerging without any effort of optimising or skin alteration.

4-The comments section under the downloads was 95% useless, which had no real contribution to the model improvements and bug reports (havent changed as it seems). Like "OMGZ it suckz, you suck" or like "omg how you do that what tools etc?" or "how do I IMPORT THE ThiGNG HELP!". Or like, giving comments about something they have barely tested it and just assuming it is done in the same way as others.

When Stonedstoopid was fixing the dl system, I wanted a environment for quality models (or models where at least effort was put in) with a comment system with people that could like contribute to the model improvement or help the community in a bigger way (like people who actually have read and sought info about it how to import etc). Also wanted the zip files to be maintained (instead of seperate model upload/texture upload etc). Then he decided to put that part into Darky's hand, which IMO is a mess now.
Updating of model files aint working, slow system etc etc...

Its like now that you guys all assumed that I left it because of the reasons they put it in that topic over here :

http://www.wc3sear.ch/viewtopic.php?t=3802&start=0

(which was kinda bullshit IMO. I never had any objections whoever was skinning my stuff, in fact i would encourage people to do it, as I hate doing skinning). All assumptions without ever taking the effort to look into things and just create a rumor mill. The problem was never with the unexperienced people (I had no problems with newbies, we all have to start sooner or later at a certain point. I always helped the people who show effort), but those people who never lifted a damn finger, never took the effort (or slightest), never ever took the opportunity to read a red text better (a case with a guy bugging Darky about the corrupt zips, while it was clearly stated in red what was going on!) or just shamelessly take things without mentioning its source, or just claiming that as for themselves (and those people who KEEP protecting that guy even after it was stated that the posted had snatched the model) ]

One of the reasons I took them down were people like you. Clueless and assuming every thing that was stated here is true, withut taking the effort to check whats realy going on....shees....Reminds me of that ninja issue, all saying that me and reps were the bad guys and took the model ....

Seriously, I can easily take that thing down again just because of you, and thats not an overreaction, but just my point of view which everyone is entitled to do with their own resources.
 
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huh

yes i agree no one actually gives advice on how to improve it, just sayign what they think like it sucks, or i love it! and the rating system is too easy i actually got 5/5 for some of my models *gasp*, but i still like the wc3sear environment as opposed to wc3campaigns as the environment is much more friendly
 
Cookie: I apologize. I posted stupidly and didnt mean to...make you do that. I guess I didnt think when I said what i did, and didnt know what I was actually saying. You were right, I screwed up. sorry.
while another guy just shamelessly uses vex animation transfer proggy and churn a non optimised geomerge without even skin alteration or optimisation.
Also related to the floodwaves of easy geomerging without any effort of optimising or skin alteration.
btw I only do scratch models.
 
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cookies back!?!?!? COOKIES BACK!?!?!?!? ZOMG! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I'd add more !'s but I know the meaning of a run on sentance. I think.

Teld
 
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You bloody necromancer

Did you even BOTHER to look at the dates? At that, you TRIPLE POSTED

EVER HEARD OF THE EDIT BUTTON?

This topic is a YEAR OLD. Now, if you posted with useful information, such as being Cookie and saying that you would post stuff here because we removed the bugs (Which we haven't. Its just a made up story) I could understand it. But posting some random thing about "zomg i'm sad" followed by "zomg i'm happy" followed by "zomg i'm sad again"?

God dammit, I am freaking warning you because of this

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