Adding unit in CTRL+# group

[Mechanical Man]

Is there a way that I add or remove units from user defined ingame groups (those ones accessible with pressing number keys to select and ctrl and number to define them) via triggers because in my system many units get replaced and the new ones unlike old ones don't have that number mark anymore.

 

[DrEvil]

I dont think that is possible.

I havnt heard of anyone thinking this before lols.

Just have to use 1 - #

 

[Mechanical Man]

That way it will be annoying for the player, always assigning groups

 

[Avator]

It's always have been that way. However, I just got an idea that might be possible. Make dummy heroes. They got an icon in the upper-left corner of the screen. I believe those have a shortcut F1, F2, F3, etc. Make a trigger that when Hero 1 is selected, select Unit Group 1, which you assigned. That should have the same effect and you also have Unit Group icons (like in games like Age of Empires) ^^

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well, there ain't heroes in my map.

 

[Eleandor]

Which means the hero icons are not in use, are they?

Make your own system that upon selecting a hero dummy, group 1 (to 7) is selected...

 

[Avator]

Dude, that's what I just said! Make dummy heroes, which (I believe) got a hotkey and an icon themselves, and when the dummy hero is selected, you select the group instead! That's exactly what I posted before!

 

[Eleandor]

I know, but Mechman made it sound like he can't do it because his map has no heroes...

 

[MeKC]

Create a hero, and use the chaos ability to morph the hero into the normal unit. Now your normal unit that is not a hero, will be selected when you press F1. or just click on the icon

 

[Mechanical Man]

Well you can't even detect when the unit group is assigned a number so I don't see the point of adding heroes. And there are plenty of such groups, while icons are limited, maybe icons not much but heroes are limited only to F5, so max 5 groups.

And MeKC, using F1 will select only one unit, I want to have selected much more.

 

[Vegavak]

Couldn't you make a dummy ability that grouped the units you've selected together? A "Group Up" dummy spell.

And then handle that unitgroup when the hero dummy is selected?

You could even write a script that monitored the health of the unitgroup, and updated it towards that hero dummy. So it would reflect the actual group's total HP.

 

[Eleandor]

Well you can't even detect when the unit group is assigned a number so I don't see the point of adding heroes. And there are plenty of such groups, while icons are limited, maybe icons not much but heroes are limited only to F5, so max 5 groups.

The actual max is 7 (or 8, not sure), which is only 3 less than with cntrl groups...
EDIT: 7 heroes, but only F1 to F5...

And MeKC, using F1 will select only one unit, I want to have selected much more.

Make a trigger that when your hero dummy is selected, you select the whole corresponding group? ......

 

[Avator]

Ok, let's get this clear for a minute: The closest we have to a solution so far is dummy heroes that upon selection, select the corresponding Unit Group.
Problem with this method: Max of 5 groups due to a max limit of 5 hero icons.
Solution: Either you just live with 5 groups, or you make it more complicated. For the latter one we stick with the same idea, but we make groups and sub-groups. F1-F5 are the Groups. When one is selected, the icons change (a.k.a. the heroes are replaced) with the ones of the sub-groups. F1-F5 will select a sub-group. This does however requires you to inform the players of this, since new players will not understand that concept. However, this grants every player with 25 Unit Groups. If you still want more, you should re-think why the hell you should have more then 25 Unit Groups/player. If you find yourself with a good reason, you can make sub-sub-groups, which will allow you with a total of 125 Unit Groups per player.

If you need even more, I have the ultimate solution for your problem: Burn the map on a DVD, destroy the original, throw the DVD in a big bonfire and dance around the flames

 

[Vegavak]

since new players will not understand that concept

The first time you played a map, you knew how everything worked? No.

So they'll either learn when they USE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, or you could teach them?

 

[Mechanical Man]

Meh, solving one glitch you encounter even a bigger one. Probably the best way is to live with that, anyway you don't use a lot of units, so there is no need of that so desperately.

 

[wolfman]

Could you do something when a player types a chat message?
Like when they type -group1 it selects the units that you assign to group 1 thru triggers. This way you can have an infinite number of groups

 

[Avator]

Yes, but that's not really a hotkey. If you want to fasten up such methods, use -sg1 (Set Group 1) and -gg1 (Get Group 1). This would still be annoying to type every time though.