Acolyte.blp

[Moderator]

22:10, 27th Apr 2009
Dan van Ohllus:
I'll approve this skin because I find the quality of this skin good enough. The clothes have a decent shading and definition, though the team color on the skirt part could use a little more of that. Face is defined and not too plain.
Sand monster part is quite plain, but still ok in my book.
And I see no sign of recolor and cnp in this skin.

But you're always free to update it when possible.

 

[akblabla]

the slugde skin is to wrapt please fix it, and the eye on the sandmonster looks to red(or team coloured) please make them look more neutral.

 

[Misha]

~blurry
~filter
~recolor
~CnP? oO
~lacks shading
~lacks highlights
~undefined
~face is ridiculous
~sand texture could use some extensive reworking.
~very little freehand

Rating: 2.12/5 Lacking

~Misha~

 

[SkriK]

I think it's looks good enough for a sandman. GJ.

 

[Misha]

it needs a heavy and thorough reworking.

 

[AIagremm]

I like it.
But I wont rate it since there are many negative opinions.
It really is blurry. But its still great!

 

[Minox]

Ok, I deperately need someone to define the terms that are frequently used around here, because the full meaning seems to elude me.

- When is it NOT a recolour? I mean, that's what you do when you make a skin, right? You apply and remove colours. I am confused.

- Almost everything is made using the brush tool and I drew it myself using brushes I made myself and I came up with how it should look myself and I applied colours in layers using my own hand and my own digital drawing tablet after the pattern I pictured in my head. Is that freehand? If not, please tell me.


All of the parts of the robe are mad from scratch. I painted over the Acolyte entirely. I did look at the original shading, because it fit in the model, and I didn't want to mess that up. I added creases in the cloth as I saw fit though.

I made the sand with a custom brush I put together, but I'm relatively new to Photoshop and I don't know all the things you can do to make great textures. I looked at a picture of sand and I drew several layers of dots in different colours. I didn't turn out that great, appearantly. I copied parts of the original patch of sand I drew and applied them to the other parts I was making into sand, and then added more layers of dots.

The wrapping on the Sludge seems to be kinda weird. It wants to stretch the skin out on the front, so one pixel turns into a line. That's how it seems to be to me at least.

The highlights were originally brighter, but when I looked at it in game they seemed to "pop" a lot more than I wanted to., so I toned them down.

The eyes on the sand monster are a bit bright I guess, didn't think about that, gonna fix it.

Why is the face ridiculous? I made the skull characteristics more defined and I made deep, dark eye sockets. The guy is made of sand, and his looks are bound to be a bit weird, not being solid and all.


Okay, so anyone else have anything to complain about? Geez, I had no idea how crappy this skin really was...

 

[Misha]

1: you passed over some parts with a different tone brush and that makes it a recolor. instead you should've tried to draw every detail yourself, using only thin brushes.

2: i suggest you take a look at our Hive tutorials on skining. they are very helpful.

3: you should not use custom brushes much.... it just looks.. odd oO

4: there is a way to make highlights more without popping too much. again read out skining tutorials

5: your "so called" freehand on the texture makes the face, and the whole sludge skin ridiculous. Alas, i have to mention turorials again *sigh*
~i find no flaw on actual face details whatsoever. just that sand texture~

6: Yeah, eyes are sucky =P you should make 'em more evil and not completly round and glowy.

btw.. "enter sandman" is my fav song =)

 

[Trance Music Fan]

Nice skin - lots of work!
Too bad wc3's quality is not high enough and it looks crappy ingame

P.S Misha The skin isn't ridicolous - you're just not the type of person than could understand it.

 

[Minox]

1: you passed over some parts with a different tone brush and that makes it a recolor. instead you should've tried to draw every detail yourself, using only thin brushes.

2: i suggest you take a look at our Hive tutorials on skining. they are very helpful.

3: you should not use custom brushes much.... it just looks.. odd oO

4: there is a way to make highlights more without popping too much. again read out skining tutorials

5: your "so called" freehand on the texture makes the face, and the whole sludge skin ridiculous. Alas, i have to mention turorials again *sigh*
~i find no flaw on actual face details whatsoever. just that sand texture~

6: Yeah, eyes are sucky =P you should make 'em more evil and not completly round and glowy.

btw.. "enter sandman" is my fav song =)

Ok, so the sand is not that good, just say that instead of making a whole list saying almpst every part is bad BECAUSE of the sand. I'm not that good on textures, I'm still learning. I welcome any advice on how to make proper sand.

And as for nr 6, round and glowy is evil enough. I originally inteded to make them glowing gems but I found less was more. It's a matter of taste, really.

 

[Darkdude]

I like this skin, a bit blurry, but still awesome.

 

[Misha]

Ok, so the sand is not that good, just say that instead of making a whole list saying almpst every part is bad BECAUSE of the sand. I'm not that good on textures, I'm still learning. I welcome any advice on how to make proper sand.

And as for nr 6, round and glowy is evil enough. I originally inteded to make them glowing gems but I found less was more. It's a matter of taste, really.

It is called "constructive critique" Even tho it may seem i'm tearing your skin to shredds. it is all in order for you to improve 8)

and look at tuts x3 you sure will find something to help you about sand x3

 

[DrPepper1]

Well.. I like it, good job! 5/5

 

[Minox]

It is called "constructive critique" Even tho it may seem i'm tearing your skin to shredds. it is all in order for you to improve 8)

and look at tuts x3 you sure will find something to help you about sand x3

Heh, I know, but I'm not good with critisism, and your list kinda overwhelmed me

 

[Misha]

Heh, I know, but I'm not good with critisism, and your list kinda overwhelmed me

no comment ^_^;;

 

[Fingolfin]

1: you passed over some parts with a different tone brush and that makes it a recolor. instead you should've tried to draw every detail yourself, using only thin brushes.

2: i suggest you take a look at our Hive tutorials on skining. they are very helpful.

3: you should not use custom brushes much.... it just looks.. odd oO

4: there is a way to make highlights more without popping too much. again read out skining tutorials

5: your "so called" freehand on the texture makes the face, and the whole sludge skin ridiculous. Alas, i have to mention turorials again *sigh*
~i find no flaw on actual face details whatsoever. just that sand texture~

6: Yeah, eyes are sucky =P you should make 'em more evil and not completly round and glowy.

btw.. "enter sandman" is my fav song =)

I think you're way to harsh. About making everything freehand, i think that's just a silly principal question; he wanted the shading to remain and it did. and also, it is obvious that the sand is made using a brush, since it's far more random than the noise filter that i assume you took it for. I use custom brushes all the time, it works just fine.
And seriously, who would sit there for hours painting every sand grain by itself whith a basic brush?

And to the author: I actually think your model needs one MORE filter: "Smart Sharpen".
It is an excellent filter that doesent make anything less freehand, though makes the texture more sharp and similar to blizzards textures.

Also, to make the cloak less bland you should perhaps draw some fabric texture to it, perhaps stitchings or just thin lines like a net to resemble the cloth.

 

[Overlord DM]

i think its really good work and i hope for more sand themed skins

 

[TheGodOfIron]

~blurry
~filter
~recolor
~CnP? oO
~lacks shading
~lacks highlights
~undefined
~face is ridiculous
~sand texture could use some extensive reworking.
~very little freehand

Rating: 2.12/5 Lacking

~Misha~

Those who really Copy and Paste Misha, won't tell it aloud that they do it. For those who hadn't, they'll say they didn't.
So to really to know if they Copy and Paste a model, investigate, plain asking won't help much.
Sorry if that offended you or something.

 

[Misha]

Those who really Copy and Paste Misha, won't tell it aloud that they do it. For those who hadn't, they'll say they didn't.
So to really to know if they Copy and Paste a model, investigate, plain asking won't help much.
Sorry if that offended you or something.

noup, it didn't x3

and it's a skin

 

[Tha_Wc3_Map_Maker]

srry to say it but i would say 3 out of 5, you should maybe make it a lil more difficult

 

[FrIkY]

Sandman and the sand monster. Awesome! ^^

 

[mnib]

could u add some icon ;d