A wc3search purging is needed!

Tiki · Aug 24, 2005

This is just my opinion but I think wc3search needs to be purged along with all its files.

Its gotten to be full of way too much crap and I believe it needs to be removed.

I suggest darky or someone capable stop for the time being the ability to upload anymore so that all moderators can delete or remove all skins/models/icons/whatever that are horrible, wrong category, already used and the such.

I think it would help to speed the site up and also remove everything thats not needed and make browsing more easier when its not cluttered with all this crap.

I also had an idea to rebuild some of the sites css and html code to make it run more smoothly but thats up to darky.

So what are your thoughts on this, if you do agree I would like to be an icon moderator once again just for the hell of it, I feel like ive lost touch with this site ive been a member of for so long.

-- Also I dono if its been added but me and darky talked about an approval system. All files have to be approved by the moderator first before being added, if denied they are not added. Dono but is this implemented?

Daelin · Aug 24, 2005

Ugh... Why can't you stop it guys with this begging? I understand that you are an veteran of this site, excellent icon maker, but I seriously haven't seen you recently online, and I don't like the fact that you seek a reason to get a mod. There are other ways to help!

For some sections, that type of approval is not necessary, such as icons. You can see icons immediately, and then if you don't like them, you can just remove them. For sections like maps, indeed, an approval would be fine, but it would mean more work for us.

I dunno what other mods think, but I will attempt tomorrow a purge of the spells section... Thanks for mentioning this, but for mod stuff, it's up to Veggie and oz02.

~Daelin

Tiki · Aug 24, 2005

Im not begging it just seems the current mods arent doing anything.

Also every section needs to be atleast 50% deleted of crap like skins and icons.

Besides that...

DeadDogNoGoWoof · Aug 24, 2005

im purging the models section. but only the complete crap. i dont want to make wc3sear.ch an elitist model site. ive deleted about 30 so far and im a bit over halfway through.

Vexorian · Aug 24, 2005

oz02 · Aug 25, 2005

Wow, after you were removed from moderator status because of complete lack of respect to the rules you dare to ask to become a moderator? That's pretty funny.

I agree with your approval idea, that uploads should be diabled for a couple days in order for the moderators to purge their respective sections idea and that the site should be rewritten code-wise, but most of these ideas have been discussed before and can't be done until Darky decides to join the site, so forget it.

Tiki · Aug 25, 2005

Go ahead and delete all my stuff, thats when I was beginning so it really doesnt bother me. I look at that stuff now and laugh.

Either way I respected the rules just no one followed them and always got mad at me when I deleted something.

VGsatomi · Aug 25, 2005

always got mad at me when I deleted something.

Thats quite common. You should see my collection of hate mail. I hold it with pride.

It would be kind of nice to have some downtime so we could go through every resourse piece by piece. But given how maps are (have to be installed and played instead of just examined in war3viewer), we'd have to devote the entire staff for that if we were to get that done in a reasonable ammount of time. I've played a great and many maps in the archive, but far from all of them.

An approval system would surley solve the influx of low quality material, but freely uploading was one of the things I realll liked about this site above the others, where you had to wait sometimes WEEKS until a moderator had the time to review and post your resourse. This place is very convinient. (that, and me being map mod, it would absolutely MURDER my poor yahoo inbox :wink:

)
-VGsatomi

Leopard · Aug 25, 2005

For sections like maps, indeed, an approval would be fine, but it would mean more work for us.

Agreed. Like VG said every single maps (along with spell and model, i think) needs more examination to conclude that resource is worthy on this site.

DeadDogNoGoWoof said:
im purging the models section. but only the complete crap. i dont want to make wc3sear.ch an elitist model site. ive deleted about 30 so far and im a bit over halfway through.

Well said, DDNGW, well said. People have to learn, so let him submit his first n ugly (not complete crap) resource, and everyone can give him constructive suggestions.

Tiki · Aug 25, 2005

True maybe a weeks worth of no uploading could give people some time to remove some bad files.

Mecheon · Aug 25, 2005

Tiki, the icons section needs more of a pure than any other section

Particularly those random 181 icons that oppoed up in there a few days ago that look like NOTHING in Warcraft

Rui · Aug 25, 2005

ElfWarfare was online a while ago.... I thought he or she would delete all that crap.... I'm going to send a PM.
@Tiki: We cannot purge wc3sear.ch without darky's permission. We don't know if Darky agrees or not. It's HIS site after all...

-Rui

Daelin · Aug 25, 2005

There are a lot of icons which break the rules. Purging the site by removing those is more than enough. I have posted a list in the icon section... Hopefully ElfWarfare will remove stuff more accurately this time.

~Daelin

Rui · Aug 25, 2005

Yes yes, icons against the rules can be deleted of course, but a complete PURGE on wc3sear.ch would be too much without Darky's permission. If that is going to be made, someone should try to contact Darky first.

-Rui

Daelin · Aug 25, 2005

Nobody mentioned a complete purge. That's silly... Wc3sear.ch is well known because of the numerous resources it has. Removing ALL of them would be insane. Only resources against rules are to be deleted, resources unworthy to be hosted by this site.

~Daelin

Nasrudin · Aug 25, 2005

oz02 said:
Wow, after you were removed from moderator status because of complete lack of respect to the rules you dare to ask to become a moderator? That's pretty funny.

At least he's offering to do something. Better than sitting there whithout doing a beeeep.

Daelin · Aug 25, 2005

Nasrudin said:
At least he's offering to do something. Better than sitting there whithout doing a beeeep.

You're insinuating that Oz02 is doing nothing? Watch it! I'm sick of you guys juding moderators because you feel like you have no one else to judge. What Tiki wants here is to become a mod. Nothing else! He had his chance, and he has proven unworthy. End of story!

We can't do anything anyway without an administrator to make people mods. All this blabla is for nothing!

~Daelin

DarkShadow · Aug 25, 2005

There's a reason behind the removal of Tiki's mod-status, as there's a reason for Rightfield being banned. Although Tiki is a great icon maker (that's my opinion), the mod-status doesn't really fit to him.

Nasrudin · Aug 25, 2005

Daelin said:
You're insinuating that Oz02 is doing nothing? Watch it! I'm sick of you guys juding moderators because you feel like you have no one else to judge.

Uh, exactly, what is it that he's doing? This site has no admin, very few moderators, and is still growing. A lot of section needing a good clean up. For instance, skin and icons. Who will moderate it? Ozo2? You need all the help you can get, but no no, mr Tiki is bad.

Daelin · Aug 25, 2005

This is not the kind of help we need. People who offer to help, don't do this by asking to become mods. They do it by either providing links to already existant mods with resources breaking the rules, or with users breaking the rules.

And yeah, Tiki is bad... He wasn't good enough in the past, so he won't be now. As for icons, Juice_F said he would take care of it. I already gave him a list of bad icons. This is the kind of help I meant. I'm not a mod for icons section, but I can help by providing links and so, making the deletion easier. I see you come here only to judge us moderators, not to do anything. So if you don't have anything helpful to say (except MORE MODS!), shut up!

~Daelin

Conix · Aug 25, 2005

Whoever this tiki guy is, I think he feels like being too important.

It is an irony though that he accepts he was starting, as a matter of fact when vexorian says those icons were cnps and all I don't care, I doubt any map maker (not talking about egolatric artists) actually cares if a model is geomerge or if an icon is cnp, cause his stuff was cool enough for me to like them

What I find annoying at this guy is that he accepted he was starting but he still wants to purge every reasource he doesn't like, he doesn't figure out that no one cares about his opinions and that perhaps OTHER GUYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE 'JUST BEGGINING' into modding.

Also he seems to be boicoting the site else he doesn't figure out that this site's strength is the quantity of resources and not being a dumb elite site.

If he doesn't like that, he should go to thehubb or to any other retarded site.

oz02 · Aug 25, 2005

Daelin, do you think I even care what this guy thinks^^? Just ignore him, you can tell that he has absolutely no idea what's happening at all.

Tiki · Aug 25, 2005

Rofl I like how everyone says I was bad and that I lost my mod status.

Ive known darky before all of you and longer then all of you, I gladly gave up my mod status, so stfu all you noobs.

Especially you Conix, you have no fucking idea what Im talking about. I do agree there are alot of shitty things on this site but I dont mean delete them all. I meanly say delete ones that have like crappy paint attempts, horrible skinning, cnp of like real life pictures and shit like that. They have like no downloads and just take up space, y not delete them.

Daelin · Aug 26, 2005

Ok, time to show you Tiki who is the boss here. I don't care for how long you knew Darky, you're in no position to flame people and act in an incompetent manner. You are being warned!

~Daelin

Nasrudin · Aug 26, 2005

Providing links you say? Fine. This is what, the third time i try to get this stuff deleted? No need to say everything is still there. Now let's see if it is the right time... :roll: http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Skins&Authors=Konblade
Not to mention the hundreds of skin i reported and no one deleted. Or do you think i come here only to criticize you mod because it's soo coooooolz? There might be another reason, you know? The fact i don't like the attitude of many users of this site doesn't mean i want to see it fall down.

Daelin · Aug 26, 2005

Nasrudin, are you stupid? You think that we want to leave this site down? I am doing a MASSIVE PURGE in the spells section and already deleted 12 spells. Do you know how hard it is to take the spells one by one and check each if they are worthy enough or not? And that there are about 800 spells?

And as for oz02, again, are you stupid? About skins section, you can clearly read:

This Section is Moderated by Darky29, Sansui, alfredx_sotn and VGsatomi

And since Sansui is gone, alfred and Darky as well, only Veggie can delete resources. Oz02 cannot. And until Darky is back to make some new resource mods, the situation will remain like this. All we can do is wait for him! Do you have a better solution? Let's hear it!

~Daelin

Nasrudin · Aug 26, 2005

Daelin said:
Nasrudin, are you stupid? You think that we want to leave this site down? I am doing a MASSIVE PURGE in the spells section and already deleted 12 spells. Do you know how hard it is to take the spells one by one and check each if they are worthy enough or not? And that there are about 800 spells?

Rofl, are we in a bad mood aren't we? If you're trying to anger me so that you can warn me, you're not even half way.

Exactly WHEN i talked about the spell section? And exactly HOW i said that you want to let the site down? Read my post a second time, maybe you can graps the sense of it. I said that *I* don't want to see it whorse that it already is. I don't come here to laugh at you because i don't have anything better to do. Is that so hard to understand?

Daelin said:
And since Sansui is gone, alfred and Darky as well, only Veggie can delete resources. Oz02 cannot. And until Darky is back to make some new resource mods, the situation will remain like this.

So they are both super moderators (whatever that may mean) and yet they have different power? How come?

Daelin said:
And as for oz02, again, are you stupid? About skins section, you can clearly read:

This Section is Moderated by Darky29, Sansui, alfredx_sotn and VGsatomi

Click to expand...

All we can do is wait for him! Do you have a better solution? Let's hear it!
~Daelin

Of course not. It just piss me off when someone that isn't doing nothing (or can't like you said) take position against someone that could help the site. The fact he acted like he did doesn't mean he will do it again. And if he will cause throubles you can just ask the admin to remove him again. What's the problem?

Leopard · Aug 26, 2005

Nasrudin said:
Rofl, are we in a bad mood aren't we?

Hmm, i think Daelin just had some bad situation for these last days (well, i guess), so , please consider it , Nasrudin.

Nasrudin said:
So they are both super moderators (whatever that may mean) and yet they have different power? How come?

Every user can delete every resource here if and only if his name are on "This section is moderated by, ..., ..." list (or it is his own resource). So, since VG is there, he can. But oz02 not there, so he can't. And, the only one who can make someone on that list is just Darky.

Nasrudin said:
Of course not. It just piss me off when someone that isn't doing nothing (or can't like you said) take position against someone that could help the site. The fact he acted like he did doesn't mean he will do it again. And if he will cause throubles you can just ask the admin to remove him again. What's the problem?

Well, i dunno what Tiki was doing in the past, but he recently acting inappropriate (get warned). Although, he seems not to be that bad, i guess. Well, i'm not mod here and not to cover anyone. :wink:

DarkShadow · Aug 26, 2005

Nasrudin said:
Of course not. It just piss me off when someone that isn't doing nothing (or can't like you said) take position against someone that could help the site. The fact he acted like he did doesn't mean he will do it again. And if he will cause throubles you can just ask the admin to remove him again. What's the problem?

Wait a second, I need to stop laughing....
So because you don't SEE what oz02 is doing, you think he's doing nothing? Let me explain, some of us have other things to do than deleting resources. I'm almost working two hours a day on this site, and do you see any traces of what I'm doing? No. And I don't think I need to explain anyone what I'm doing (except the other mods)

Daelin · Aug 26, 2005

Nasrudin said:
f you're trying to anger me so that you can warn me, you're not even half way.

That's pathetic. When I'm a nice guy, you people abuse. When I turn into a bad guy just because it's your fault, you say that I"M in a bad mood. And in such a manner you said that you wouldn't want to see this site down, as if we would. I understand more than you would want me to.

Nasrudin said:
And if he will cause throubles you can just ask the admin to remove him again. What's the problem?

Actually, we have a problem here, because resources Tiki deletes, remain deleted. There is no way to undo that. So once Tiki purges the icon section, in a chaotic way, Super mods can ban him because everything deleted remains deleted. So now you see why it isn't a good idea? Hope so!

~Daelin

VGsatomi · Aug 26, 2005

Wait a second, I need to stop laughing....
So because you don't SEE what oz02 is doing, you think he's doing nothing? Let me explain, some of us have other things to do than deleting resources. I'm almost working two hours a day on this site, and do you see any traces of what I'm doing? No. And I don't think I need to explain anyone what I'm doing (except the other mods)

That coudnt be any more true.

Its like if we dont have a ticket punching system that clearly says "today this mod moved xx # of posts, deleted xx # of resourses, moved xx # of material" we dont get credit for the work we do. I'm still being called lazy regarding the skins section even though I've been moving and removing skins on a regular basis...but seems like no one notices unless I flaunt numbers around. I recognize that mods are not here to do work for credit, but when people are saying we arent doing are jobs, thats what gets me annoyed. We try hard to make this place a decent place to be.
-VGsatomi

Daminon · Aug 26, 2005

Well if you don't constantly check the resoruce sections you wont notice that any thing has been removed/moved, so many people dosn't see what you mods does. I think that's may be the reason.

About the power of you super mods I though that you hade the power of all sections, I think you should have.

Tiki · Aug 26, 2005

Haha why does everyone think im going to delete like 90% of the icons my god.

I just know good quality and what people would download then the crap that is there.

Only reason ozo2 is a mod is because he reached 1000 forum posts first or some shit like that. I bet he has no coding experience or anything that really contributes to the site except modding the forums.

Now all get off your lazy ass and do something before this site becomes a bigger pile of shit.

Vexorian · Aug 26, 2005

Judging your past moderator work you don't know anything about good quality, you just deleted icons you don't like for no reason at all.

Rui · Aug 26, 2005

Now i'm the one who's getting pissed. This is true flaming. Isn't this topic going more off-topic than it should. First we were talking about a purge, now we're all flaming each other.

Tiki said:
Now all get off your lazy ass and do something before this site becomes a bigger pile of ****.

LOL? And who orders? You? Let me laugh. Oh and i forgot that the king lost his crown. Accept what you do or what you did. Your time as mod is over. Daelin is right; you had your chance, but now it's over. Final point on this subject please.

VGsatomi said:
That coudnt be any more true.

Its like if we dont have a ticket punching system that clearly says "today this mod moved xx # of posts, deleted xx # of resourses, moved xx # of material" we dont get credit for the work we do. I'm still being called lazy regarding the skins section even though I've been moving and removing skins on a regular basis...but seems like no one notices unless I flaunt numbers around. I recognize that mods are not here to do work for credit, but when people are saying we arent doing are jobs, thats what gets me annoyed. We try hard to make this place a decent place to be.
-VGsatomi

Agreed 100%. If you people are SO worried because the moderators don't do a sh!t why don't you do something yourself? Oh i forgot; you can't lol. The moderators know well what they do. This site is still in this condition because the moderators watch over it. If the moderators didn't do something... hmm.. let's imagine..

Maps Section = Full of porn maps.
Skins Section = In a horrible state
Icons Section = No no, it's currently bad enough, thanks.
Models Section = Full of crap models... and whatever else you can imagine
Spells Section = Full of useless spells.

And much more! Don't loose the next episode lol.

Conix said:
Whoever this tiki guy is, I think he feels like being too important.

Okay Tiki was an icon section moderator. If you read the discussion from the beginning you would have at least realised that he was a moderator before.

Daelin said:
That's pathetic. When I'm a nice guy, you people abuse. When I turn into a bad guy just because it's your fault, you say that I"M in a bad mood.

Agreed. You people don't give moderators a chance to be nice. Althrough they usually are nice. And then "we have bad mods" as everyone says -_-

-Rui

DeadDogNoGoWoof · Aug 26, 2005

you didnt really have any experience with tiki eather...you only joined in jan. not that i did either.

the models section is not full of crap models. i deleted almost all of them and only have about 15 pages to go.

Rui · Aug 26, 2005

DeadDogNoGoWoof said:
you didnt really have any experience with tiki eather...you only joined in jan. not that i did either.

the models section is not full of crap models. i deleted almost all of them and only have about 15 pages to go.

No No, i was saying what the site would look like without moderators. Of course there isn't a single porn map in the Maps Section. But imagine how much there would be if no one watched over that section.

-Rui

Mr. Clean · Aug 26, 2005

Vexorian said:
I agree, begin with Tiki's resources

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Skins&ID=64 : recolor ,crappy photshop filters

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Icons&ID=3274 : cnp
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Icons&ID=3273 : cnp
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Icons&ID=3258 : cnp
http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Icons&ID=3257 : cnp

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Models&ID=849`: too much polys, unoriginal

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Models&ID=68 : cnp, recolor, uses custom skins but they aren't evenchanged in the mdx.

http://www.wc3sear.ch/index.php?p=Models&ID=75 : geoset merge

-Good satire. I remember this guy's attitude when he was a mod, and this quote matches this elitist view that all resources that aren't free hand or made from scratch were useless junk fit for the garbage can (regardless of its actual quality in game) that he had as a mod. (No offense meant, just recalling what happened when he had his chance as a mod.)
Quote from Tiki: "Now all get off your lazy ass and do something before this site becomes a bigger pile of ****."
-That is definately flaming. Worse still, flaming of the mods in general.

DeadDogNoGoWoof · Aug 27, 2005

ah, my mistake. WoW distracts.

Tiki · Aug 27, 2005

Oh no im flaming im gona die and wither without my wc3search.

How about this for flaming, f u c k all you mods and supermods... oh shit ive gone and done a bad one. Stop sucking up to your own bullshit and thinking that people actually want to download crappy files. This sites full of shit except an exceptional few files out there. Please show me a map that has really used any of these files besides like the top 20 files in each category. There isnt because no one would actually use them. Go ahead whine about me being stupid and not know what im doing. Just watch this site fill up with more crap then later slow down as hell, take too much space, lose bandwidth and darky stop paying for it. After that what you gona do? Prob wither and die without your wc3 modding forum, wc3s dieing slowly but surely, deal with it. All I was doing is just suggesting deleting some files that are just plain horrible in the first place not saying deleting everything thats not leet, grow up. Then you guys just turned this whole thing into a whole flame war of how I use to be a mod and that I lost it and shit. I was a mod, I followed darkys icon rules, I deleted those that broke them, people cried, I left being a mod cause people are just stupid and still upload crap without following the rules.

Now I am done here, have fun with your site, its not like you can ban me but im done here have fun. I shall not post in this thread again since you people dont really care about anything.

Daelin · Aug 27, 2005

Lol, this isn't really getting offtopic Rui. We are discussing why Tiki shouldn't be an icon mod. And yes, if somebody misunderstands what somebody else said, or just thinks that he is smarter, you have to respond.

And umm, about the spells section, I actually have the feeling that there are still a lot of useless spells. It's just that I didn't have the time and patience to look careful at all the past spells, because when I already became a mod, there were so many. But well, it's time to do it.

And it's not that people can't help. Actually they can, by reporting anything that breaks the rules, so that includes both resources and users. It's just that some people recently have started to consider that you can be useful to the site only if you are a mod. It's not true. If all the members of the site would be the mods and nobody else, then there would be no reason for this site to remain. Every site is made out of all its members. Moderators are needed to take care of it, keep in clean, and assure that there's nothing wrong with it.

~Daelin

VGsatomi · Aug 27, 2005

people are just stupid and still upload crap without following the rules

Hence the need for mods...is it starting to make sense yet?
-VGsatomi

Rui · Aug 27, 2005

Daelin said:
Lol, this isn't really getting offtopic Rui. We are discussing why Tiki shouldn't be an icon mod. And yes, if somebody misunderstands what somebody else said, or just thinks that he is smarter, you have to respond.

I guess you are right, but this:

How about this for flaming, f u c k all you mods and supermods... oh **** ive gone and done a bad one. Stop sucking up to your own **** and thinking that people actually want to download crappy files.

Is a request for a ban.

EDIT: Btw i'm happy that the icon section is being cleared. At least Juice deleted 2 of my icons. So i guess he's making a purge there.

-Rui

Mecheon · Aug 27, 2005

Icons just got PURGINATED

Rui · Aug 27, 2005

Mecheon said:
Icons just got PURGINATED

And i'm happy for it. Finnaly those horrible icons are gone.

-Rui

Kimbo · Aug 28, 2005

Hmmm....yeah I agree with da icon section. Sp much crap. But the art section need more attention. There's no directors choce and its almost become a speck within wc3sear. We should gloss it up abit.

Leopard · Aug 28, 2005

Why you must be so angry Tiki? Look, they are doing what you said, wc3 purging, eh? They are purging icons, spells, and maybe many other resources that we don't know, since mods don't send a post which mentions about resources that are already deleted (like VG said). Maybe some section cannot be purged since Darky doesn't come back yet. But look, they agree with your suggestion.

About you become a moderator, maybe they don't want it regarding to your past attitude, but hey, that's not a big deal. You still can help this purging. Why you are really want to become a mod? While there are already a mod who will do it and all you need is just sit down and watch it.

Look, Tiki you have good point about wc3 purging and i think you are a great artist. They just don't accept your offering to become a moderator. So, don't foul your own good point with such a cildish attitude. Only a kid who blame his parents bcoz they don't buy him a toy.

Ok, there are no use for flamming, i think none of all mods get flammed with that, since i just can smile seeing your post. There is no use for it. Take it easy now, dude. You can become a moderator on another site, but hey, that's not a big deal. :wink:

orcfan32 · Aug 28, 2005

oz02 said:
until Darky decides to join the site

Hmmmm..? I thought he already did?

Telefragged · Aug 28, 2005

orcfan32 said:
oz02 said:

until Darky decides to join the site

Click to expand...

Hmmmm..? I thought he already did?

He left again.

Daelin · Aug 28, 2005

Werewulf said:
But the art section need more attention. There's no directors choce and its almost become a speck within wc3sear. We should gloss it up abit.

Icon section doesn't have director's choice either, and believe me, 4000 icons is can be a pain in the ass, especially when you have to make a selection... Why don't you select the art breaking the rules and post the links in the art section? It would greatly help the mods delete the crap.

~Daelin