(8-16)Dilapidated Fortress V1.04

[mafe]

Ok, here are my notes:

1. First of all, I really like the idea of getting a hero as a reward from creeping. However, in terms of balance, this is just completely unpredcitable and in all likelihood will cause issues. It's also something that most players would not consider to be a mechanic they'd expect in a melee map.
2. Itemdrop look fine in general. Howeve, I did not check that each location of creeps and itemdrops is perfectly mirrored.
3. Peronally, I'm not the biggest fan of the visual design of the middle, the flames are just too distracting.
4. The middle are could be more open for teamgames (in particular near the expansions). The outer areas are mostly fine though.
5. Mercs bought at the southwestern merc camp can become stuck.
6. I like the general layout of the map.
7. Aesthetically, I would try to mix at most two different "types" of creeps per camp. But of course, for gameplay this is irrelevant.
8. Overall, I believe that in principle, the concept of the map has a lot of potential, but there are just too many design choices that will probably alienate the majority of wc3 players.

So altogether, there is only one real, but easy-to-fix bug (5). Change that and the map is ready for approval. Until then, map set to Awaiting Update.

 

[Zucth]

Ok, here are my notes:

1. First of all, I really like the idea of getting a hero as a reward from creeping. However, in terms of balance, this is just completely unpredcitable and in all likelihood will cause issues. It's also something that most players would not consider to be a mechanic they'd expect in a melee map.
2. Itemdrop look fine in general. Howeve, I did not check that each location of creeps and itemdrops is perfectly mirrored.
3. Peronally, I'm not the biggest fan of the visual design of the middle, the flames are just too distracting.
4. The middle are could be more open for teamgames (in particular near the expansions). The outer areas are mostly fine though.
5. Mercs bought at the southwestern merc camp can become stuck.
6. I like the general layout of the map.
7. Aesthetically, I would try to mix at most two different "types" of creeps per camp. But of course, for gameplay this is irrelevant.
8. Overall, I believe that in principle, the concept of the map has a lot of potential, but there are just too many design choices that will probably alienate the majority of wc3 players.

So altogether, there is only one real, but easy-to-fix bug (5). Change that and the map is ready for approval. Until then, map set to Awaiting Update.

Let me answer this.
1. Yeah, when I did first heard about this idea from discord I was like just do it and so the come out was like really? Lol, I guess no one expected that I will take it for real. In generally they say it's gamebreaking to have a 4th heroes. And I agree but look for the after effect it comes up with the more skillplay of control you need and many issue like how to level up the heroes. So I guess it still a half-half.
3. Knecht and other do say the same thing, I will try to reduce more of the middle effect.
5. I will look into it.
6. Thanks
7. If I have some time I will look into that.
8. I did consider that most of people will veto this cause the 4th heroes exist and the one way all around. Let look for someone who would like to make used of this then. Else someone who addicted to this idea. Idk~

Quite surprised for the 4th heroes accept from you here

 

[mafe]

Ok, regarding my earlier comments:
1. Yes it is most likely gamebreaking on a competitive level. But might be fun for a small number of games.
3 and 4. I'm not 100% sure I remember the previous version correctly but it seems better now. Still the middle could be a little more open, but it's acceptable.
5. is fixed.

Map approved.