[General] 1st person + gun

[sentrywiz]

I've been meaning to ask this for awhile. There was this one map where some insane genius added a 1st person and you could see the gun infront. To this day I don't know if that was a "specially made model" that the guy used with attached camera inside the unit. That or black magic I believe...

Anyway I want to try and make something similar. So please tell me how can I make that... before I resort to also try black magic.

 

[Radicool]

My guess is he used custom fade filters. You basically draw your gun then delete the blank space, creating an alpha channel. When you apply this fade filter in game, the gun will display over the top, and the warcraft 3 will bleed though the empty space.

This explains a fade filter, but doesn't explain how to use an alpha channel.

http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/fading.php

 

[Warseeker]

You mean special effect attachment?

 

[sentrywiz]

My guess is he used custom fade filters. You basically draw your gun then delete the blank space, creating an alpha channel. When you apply this fade filter in game, the gun will display over the top, and the warcraft 3 will bleed though the empty space.

This explains a fade filter, but doesn't explain how to use an alpha channel.

http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/fading.php

The gun had animations, so idk if this is it.

 

[Rex.]

It must be a model. I try it out before.

 

[Warseeker]

So, I suppose you're looking for a model, right? Or a special model attachment?

 

[Chaosy]

Pretty sure it was a gun model which they used as a unit model.

I am clueless otherwise.

 

[Legal_Ease]

Looks like filters to me. Animated by using several of them but not a model.

 

[Warseeker]

Wait, is there such things in Warcraft ^ ?

 

[sentrywiz]

Looks like filters to me. Animated by using several of them but not a model.

Can you explain how this is done? I don't understand it at all.

 

[Flux]

I've been meaning to ask this for awhile. There was this one map where some insane genius added a 1st person and you could see the gun infront. To this day I don't know if that was a "specially made model" that the guy used with attached camera inside the unit. That or black magic I believe...

Anyway I want to try and make something similar. So please tell me how can I make that... before I resort to also try black magic.

It appears to be a model (unit) which is moved in front of the camera evertime it moves/turns.

FPS in wc3 is not really ideal because you can't look around (up and down) and looking controls are controlled by keyboard arrow keys not mouse. Furthermore, you can't sidestep unlike the 'A' and 'D' in FPS. If you really want an FPS game, try other game engines like Unity or Unreal. But if you want it to be on Warcraft 3, maybe try to pull it off using SharpCraft's mouse natives.

 

[Legal_Ease]

It appears to be a model (unit) which is moved in front of the camera evertime it moves/turns.

FPS in wc3 is not really ideal because you can't look around (up and down) and looking controls are controlled by keyboard arrow keys not mouse. Furthermore, you can't sidestep unlike the 'A' and 'D' in FPS. If you really want an FPS game, try other game engines like Unity or Unreal. But if you want it to be on Warcraft 3, maybe try to pull it off using SharpCraft's mouse natives.

Here is a good example of a smooth key movement system:

It's not that hard. It's a key movement system [q|w|e|a|s|d]. Icemanbo created a nice one for my choplifter map. You can look up and down just fine and side step all day long. FLux, you not discourage people from exploring possibilities or in this case doing something that has been done before and is actually not that difficult. XYZ movement is entirely possible:

I don't think that FPS gun is a model either. Look closely at it. It has no stand animation. There is no directional lighting. Also, it bounces with the movement system. I believe it is accomplished with a set of filters and animated by switching through the set. If you notice there are only a few reloading frames.

@sentrywiz - Check http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/cinematics-268/tips-tricks-cinema-39854/#F to see how to create different fade filters for different players. It's at the end of the tutorial. You might want to export a fade filter from the mpq and get it's pixel size and then make your own with the same resolution. Then import it and overwrite the pathname.

I encourage you to take this up as a project, it will be fun and you will learn a lot.

 

[Warseeker]

Now this is something new, you mean we could create such function for games like that ^ !?

 

[LordDz]

It's not a model.
It's several custom filters that he plays at an interval for each action you do.

You can download the map here, just open it up and check for yourself.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/sharpshooter-online-v1-20b-98378/

Trigger for doing the reload animation.

• Reload A
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • Quest - Display to (Player group((Picked player))) the Quest Update message: (String((Remaining time for Animation_Timer[(Player number of (Picked player))])))
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 1.65
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R1 --------
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • introTurn Equal to 0.00
          • Then - Actions
            • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R1.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
          • Else - Actions
            • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\white_mask.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0 )
        • Unit - Order Sharpshooter[(Player number of (Picked player))] to Human Mountain King - Thunder Clap
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 1.50
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R2 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R2.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 1.35
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R3 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R3.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • -------- Begin Loop --------
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 1.20
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R4 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R4.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 1.05
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R5 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R5.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.90
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R6 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R6.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
        • Unit - Order Sharpshooter[(Player number of (Picked player))] to Human Mountain King - Activate Avatar
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.75
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R7 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R7.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.60
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R8 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R8.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
        • Player - Set (Picked player) Food used to (((Picked player) Food used) + 1)
        • Item - Set charges remaining in (Item carried by Sharpshooter_Interface[(Player number of (Picked player))] of type |cffffcc00Ammunition|r) to ((Charges remaining in (Item carried by Sharpshooter_Interface[(Player number of (Picked player))] of type |cffffcc00Ammunition|r)) - 1)
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • ((Picked player) Food used) Less than or equal to 4
            • (Charges remaining in (Item carried by Sharpshooter_Interface[(Player number of (Picked player))] of type |cffffcc00Ammunition|r)) Not equal to 0
          • Then - Actions
            • Set AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] = 1.20
          • Else - Actions
            • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
              • If - Conditions
                • (Charges remaining in (Item carried by Sharpshooter_Interface[(Player number of (Picked player))] of type |cffffcc00Ammunition|r)) Equal to 0
              • Then - Actions
                • Item - Remove (Item carried by Sharpshooter_Interface[(Player number of (Picked player))] of type |cffffcc00Ammunition|r)
              • Else - Actions
      • Else - Actions
    • -------- End Loop --------
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.45
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R9 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R9.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
        • Unit - Order Sharpshooter[(Player number of (Picked player))] to Orc Tauren Chieftain - War Stomp
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.30
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R7 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R7.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.15
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- R1 --------
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\R1.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • AnimationTest[(Player number of (Picked player))] Equal to 0.00
      • Then - Actions
        • -------- 1 --------
        • Set Animation[(Player number of (Picked player))] = 0
        • Custom script: call CinematicFilterGenericForPlayer( GetEnumPlayer(), 1.0, BLEND_MODE_BLEND, "ReplaceableTextures\\CameraMasks\\1.blp", 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0, 100.0, 100.0, 100.0, 0.0 )
      • Else - Actions

 

[Legal_Ease]

It's not a model.
It's several custom filters that he plays at an interval for each action you do.

You can download the map here, just open it up and check for yourself.
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/sharpshooter-online-v1-20b-98378/

Thank you. I hate disagreeing with everyone and wondering if I am right, but looks like this settles it. Thank you LordDz.

 

[Flux]

It's not that hard. It's a key movement system [q|w|e|a|s|d]. Icemanbo created a nice one for my choplifter map. You can look up and down just fine and side step all day long. FLux, you not discourage people from exploring possibilities or in this case doing something that has been done before and is actually not that difficult. XYZ movement is entirely possible:

Where is the side stepping and looking up/down?

 

[Legal_Ease]

Where is the side stepping and looking up/down?

You have to write it but it can be done using ability hotkeys and arrows. You know this.

Arrows side-step and look up and down. It's done with cameras and it's not hard. I'm sure you are quite capable of writing this system yourself.