But seriously, think about that, why do you need that damn ownership? It just gives you responsibilities to take care of all discusions, make rules, do stuff like that... without the ownership it's like a heaven - you can just RP, plus that Al is kind of a democrate so he loves to decide everything democratically, it's not hard to influence him... and you're automatically more than respected member since you're a cretor of the group, so I say it's fun to be just a member, not care a thing about the making rules/cleaning up stuff... thrust me, that's much better!