Sonnak Defence v1.7b (eng)

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Shadow Fury · Mar 17, 2015

Terrain

The terrain was really amazing! I really liked how you manipulated the tiles to give the terrain the look of a hostile planet. Even the base is magnificent with those futuristic tiles and models which satisfy all the basic requirements for a decent modern base. However, I was disappointed from some things. For example, I don't like how the raisings have so sharp edges and such an unnatural look. I suggest you use the Smooth tool in the Terrain Palette to smooth a bit those sharp and pointed raisings to give them a more natural look. The other thing is that you didn't add any fog or sky during the initial cinematic and that really ruined the whole thing. Talking about the intro cinematic, you could've added a background music/theme to improve the cinematic.

Gameplay and Balance

I found some positive as well as negative aspects of the gameplay. I like how the creeps start evolving as you go on playing. In addition, it's astonishing to see that monsters "launch" items to me instead of simply dropping them on the ground when they die. Then, I really adored the models you chose for the map because they are really appropriate and give the map that feeling of modernity. Concerning how amusing the map is, I have to say that I didn't find the map that entertaining. First of all, for too much time I simply leave my hero to shoot the monsters and just cast any active skill I have. It would be really great if instead of leaving it like that you could add monsters that can "dig" underground and pop out in my base. That would make things exciting and more challenging. Then, I tried all of the heroes and sincerely I found some unbalance in between them. Tesla Infantry, for example, has a very imba passive skill. When the monsters breached in and attacked him, they just got some electric shocks and died very easily without having to do anything. While someone like the Heavy gunner for me was a useless hero. His 1st didn't actually deal 300 damage and his attack damage was already so low that even Critical Strike didn't help. I got overwhelmed too quickly with that guy. Have a look again at the other heroes as well and try to obtain a balance between them. The abilities themselves however weren't great sometimes. In plenty of cases, they are plain CnPs of old skills like Evasion, Stealth, Critical Strike etc... and that ruins the originality of your map.

Other Issues

Firstly, I'd like to list the most critical issue. The icons of most heroes turn green when I pause the game and that's against the Map Submission Rules. Are you sure you imported correctly the DISBTN of all icons? Besides, when monsters launch the item, the tome colour isn't the same as the actual tome created. For example, a blue tome (Int. tome) is launched but then I get a red one (Str. tome). Look into this. Furthermore, I found a lot of typos just by reading the loading screen description or heroes' skills. They are pretty clear so I guess you can spot and correct them. Finally, when the sandbags are destroyed, they remain there for some time before vanishing. You should instead remove them by means of triggers as they die. It's awkward to see monsters passing through the sandbags like ghosts. The same thing goes for the Reptile Queen which dies and disappears after ages.

Overall Result

In conclusion, I'd like to say that this map has a very strong potential. It just needs to be improved and have some issues fixed. For now, 3/5 and I suggest to AWAIT UPDATE!

alexmantor · Mar 17, 2015

Dude you soloed the map. I isn't supposed to be like that, actually I think u didn't even reach the second wave when monsters dig from underground cuz in a solo match u last like 10 mins before the sandbags break up. I'll probable add or change a few skills and balance the some heores... And thnx for the pointy terrain suggestion

Shadow Fury · Mar 17, 2015

alexmantor said:
Dude you soloed the map. I isn't supposed to be like that, actually I think u didn't even reach the second wave when monsters dig from underground cuz in a solo match u last like 10 before the sandbags break up. I'll probable add or change a few skills and balance the some heores...

I know the map was supposed to be played multi but that doesn't mean I can't check out the balance of the map or other minor issues! And I've been able to finish the game just to let you know...

Kino · Aug 13, 2016

Comes across as a run of the mill horde-defense/hero siege map.
You have two entrances which you defend from huge wave of enemies.
Main gripe would be that the map doesn't escalate in any way. You fight the same mobs for minutes on end until an event occurs, each time they slowly whittle down the barricades.
Combat is slow, very slow. Unbearably slow for certain classes such as the demolisher, I found Heavy infantry the only class that fights at a enjoyable speed.

- You get tons of cash, more than you have any use for.
- Plenty of non-english in tooltips
- Game bugs out when what I assume a boss wave spawns

Even if all the mentioned issues didn't exist, the map still is very simple/lacking content
Now, if combat were interesting I wouldnt mind mowing down wave after wave of monster. I do not mind that there is only combat, however if that is all the map is, then it better be good.
Hundreds of mobs chipping down a barrier doesnt quite cut it, nor does introducing a new mob type every 5 - 10 mins.
Events help, but they are far too widely spaced.

Terrain is nice on paper, unfortunately you dont see any of the good bits ingame.

TLDR Version
Ultimately there isn't much to do here.
Content wise, it is slightly more developed than a hero siege template.
Lastly, the map has been updated several times, yet the initial problems raised still apply.

> Moved to Simple/Substandard

Sirmarkis29 · Apr 25, 2017

hiiii someone can plz update this map i just want to still playing need some balance things and have some bugs

PLZZ

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