World of warcraft going downhill

[Codric]

Mist of pandaria let talk about that shall we.

WTF is wrong with blizzard I mean destroying Theramoore?
I mean Garrosh is totally out of controll, killing this and that and then some of this, cant wait till they kill him off, for the son of a bitch he is.

Anyway, another point I wanted to add is has the game been felling I dont know unrealistic not fun anymore?

Well that may be because it is, all the shit that happned in world of warcraft. They should drop world of warcraf and work on warcraft 4 in my opinion, warcraft 4 is the only thing that can put bliizard back on its weird tracks.

Dont you agree?


P.S If you hate Garrosh say I hate Garrosh at the end of your reply.

 

[Edhel-dur]

I LOVE Garrosh.

Seems he is destroying this franchise all by himself. This franchise has been going downhill in NA and European culture for years now. Who is left playing there? Kids who never played an mmorpg before, people who have some friends and they play WoW as a social thing, and the guys who don't have what to do with their time and pay money for this game in exchange of entitled content. Other than that, challenge has been ripped apart from some time now. I certainly wouldn't play that kind of game where there is no challenge.

So yeah, long live Garrosh.

 

[Codric]

I guess we all have our own opinions.

BUT come on you got to admit Garrosh is going crazy and evil, but for what I expect is they will kill him off, If I remember he is a dungion boss so there he is dead alredy.

But thanks for your opinion.

 

[Deleted member 212788]

I stopped paying attention to the story after WoW was released. It just put me off to even try and understand it. Yeah, it was fun in the beginning but now, it's far worse than most other MMOs. Look at guild wars 2, it doesn't have a monthly subscription fee and It still delivers a lot more and better designed content. Personally, I think blizzard should think through where the franchise is headed because those who survive are nor the strongest, nor the wisest but the most adaptable.

PS: I hate Garrosh

 

[Razosh]

Well to be honest this isn't the first time that Garrosh make me pissed because I'm a lore fan I became frustrated when he poisoned Cairne and now in 5.1 he tries to assasinate Vol'Jin, enslave the trolls of the echo isles and is about to shower Pandaria with Shas.

And right now Jaina is turning more and more into Garrosh as we see in 5.1 where she murders and imprisons all blood elves in Dalaran simply because a group within the Sunreavers were aiding Garroshs Horde when they blew up Theramore and here to support my claims is my favorite character Lor'Themar Theron.

 

[HammerFist132]

Honestly, after Wotlk I totaly lost feeling in wow, Cata is to much back to wc2, because I didnt know anything about DWing before Cataclysm, for me destroying main people, like Cenarius and Arthas and Manaroth, and after bring then in game like with some thing called ''Time travel'' is worst thing what they could do, they first destroy lore and then try to bring it back just like that is something qorst possible. Thats why I dont play wow after wotlk, I just know to pandaria is somwhere on south of azeroth and to all is Based china china china.

 

[Razosh]

Em... apparently you don't know much about WarCraft because time travel came to WarCraft before the game WarCraft III because in the book day of the dragon which came in 2001 we met Nozdurmo the aspect of time which used his power to manipulate time to be able to defeat Deathwing along with his siblings Alexstrasza, Ysera & Malygos.

And yes the pandaren race is based of the China's culture but it's not like it's the first time that Blizzard based a race of a culture. Lets take the Vrykul from WotLK as an example they are based of the culture of the Nordic Countries which is easy to see on the architecture of their building and not to mention that they have a gigantic fortress called Utgard which is named after Utgård, which is a land where giants live and well the the Vrykul are giant sized humans.

And Cenarius was killed in WarCraft 3 so you can't really say that his death ruined WoW either since it happened before WoW and if it should ruin any game it would be WarCraft 3.

So if you say that WoW has been destroyed by stuff like time travel and the death of Cenarius it just proves that you didn't care about reading up on the story before you bought the game.

 

[Dr Super Good]

World of WarCraft is old. It has survived prety well so far and I am sure Blizzard never intended to develop it as much as they have.

 

[HammerFist132]

I dont care from did time travel came, and I dont care, I just hate that idea so much.
And of course I know to Cenarius have died in wc3, I have played campaing many times u know.

 

[BlueWolf]

World Of Warcraft is good in it's own right and so is the Warcraft series, What has happened in the lore has happened and that's the way it is nothing can change that.

The fact that the World Of warcraft series has lasted this long means with all it's errors, is still a successful game. And I am saying this as a Warcraft 3 fan not WOW.

HammerFist132 - If you had to make up a story and then follow through with a game you will always get people complaining about the storyline because it has not gone the way they want it to go or rather hoped it would go.

In my view World Of Warcraft has a massive storyline that isn't worth criticising until you have read and understood it word for word, and I am not saying that I have.

 

[SpasMaster]

Codric, I suppose you are an Alliance player?

Seeing that you complaain about the same stuff that all Alliance players do.

 

[Orcnet]

I never played this game, nor even try to evoke the foundation of the lore, hell this is blizzard were talking about, we don't have any power to make them stop their most precious work, what ever they do to the characters, the complex time lines (marvel/dc/other comics is far more complex than wow's), and the new stories they built will always make up something. I for one is intrigued with the on-going argument about warcraft IV the next game topics which is doubtfully unpredictable but hey this is blizzard they made Warcraft long before all of the expansions and the dramatic changes till today

and since I'm a total fan boy of orcs I say this once GARROSH LIKE A TRUE BLOODY-MURDEROUS ORC!

 

[Razosh]

Well it's because he's a bloody murderer and he must be put down. His assault on Theramor, killing Varians son and burning down Ashenvale were one thing but attempting to enslave the trolls and to spill the blood of the sin'dorei due to the fact that he deemed their race less worth then the orchish is taking things to far. Garrosh is a murderer and an antagonist even amongst the Horde and he brings nothing but disgrace into the world.

 

[andreasaspenberg]

they certainly messed up the talent system but the pandarens have an interesting story. it can be experienced for free because free accounts have access to all races but neither monk nor death knight classes.

 

[_lycan]

You can't say a game is good because it survived or it had sales, just look at call of duty, brainless game...

 

[Edhel-dur]

You can't say a game is good because it survived or it had sales, just look at call of duty, brainless game...

Agree.

But to be fair, WoW introduced many aspects to an MMORPG which newer mmo's use today.

 

[Razosh]

You can't say a game is good because it survived or it had sales, just look at call of duty, brainless game...

Well I have to disagree with you there since it's the costumer who decides the value of the game and especially when it comes to MMO's where the player base makes the game better since the game is built for many players.

 

[_lycan]

i find mmo's being a total ripoff


imagine someone who played since it released, let's say 8 years:

8years x 12 months x 15 per month= 1440$

paying 1440 bucks for a single game, and blizzard not even announcing what plans has to make warcraft 4 because they keep getting that amount of money x 4 million players...

 

[Razosh]

Well you also have to consider how much do the players play WoW, you can't say that something is a rip off for everyone since some players play the game for 5 hours per 1$ they spend and if you call that a rip of than pretty much everything in the world is a rip off.

 

[_lycan]

Well you also have to consider how much do the players play WoW, you can't say that something is a rip off for everyone since some players play the game for 5 hours per 1$ they spend and if you call that a rip of than pretty much everything in the world is a rip off.

that doesn't even make sense, this is digital content the only thing you use is server bandwith but server bandwith for a company is really low cost since they make deals with the provider.

If not, how do you think games like guild wars 2 are just buy 1 time and that's all.

All the money blizzard needs they get it from selling each expansion pack, then all the monthly fees is just stealing money from you.

 

[Razosh]

I'm not arguing that it's good that WoW has a monthly subscription I'm simply saying it's not morally wrong to charge people for something they are willing to pay for. It's true more people could enjoy the game if it went without a monthly subscription and they could even make more money if they handled the game correctly.

When Blizzard released Diablo III real money auction house it was a test too see if it would work in WoW and maybe they are trying to do the same thing with Heroes of WarCraft. It's highly possible that they might want to test the water since they see that their WoW subscription base isn't going up any time soon they want too see how many would like one of their f2p games.

 

[Heinvers]

killing Varians son

He only broke his bones....

but attempting to enslave the trolls and to spill the blood of the sin'dorei due to the fact that he deemed their race less worth then the orchish is taking things to far.

maybe, but Thrall did came back and liberated the Darkspear tribe! As for the sin'dorei if you do further questing on the isle of thunder you will discover that he Lor'Themar Theron actually did shaked hands with Jaina and made his point.

And right now Jaina is turning more and more into Garrosh as we see in 5.1 where she murders and imprisons all blood elves in Dalaran simply because a group within the Sunreavers were aiding Garroshs Horde

oh come on she was mad at them, she killed only those who resisted. As far as we know she did what she thought was the right thing.

 

[Razosh]

So we're to forget Jaina's actions simply because she thought she was doing the right thing? Deathwing and Murozond also believed they were doing the right thing.

 

[Heinvers]

So we're to forget Jaina's actions simply because she thought she was doing the right thing? Deathwing and Murozond also believed they were doing the right thing.

And what do you think the Sin'dorei would have done if they were in her 'shoes'. They would have let the horde use Dalaran as an outpost?!? i mean who would have done that? [Neltharion]Deathwing is another story; he was twisted by those damn old gods into believing that the Kaldorei were no better than the Legion. As for Nozdormu's future-self, he made his stand for the survival of his own kind.
What you think is wrong could actually turn out to be the right choise. It's your call.

 

[Razosh]

That's taking a lot for granted.

It's a lot to believe Aethas would have chased them out of the city or even would have imprisoned them with Lor'Themar attempting to break peace with the Alliance. As Lor'Themar Theron said, When will they learn, when will they see that the Horde exists because of the Alliance? Because of their bigotry, they force us ever closer to Hellscreams Horde.

 

[Heinvers]

they force us ever closer to Hellscreams Horde.

Indeed it does but still...
by Kwaiti

the fall of Garrosh, as every single Horde race is sick of him. Hell, even blood elves are thinking of pulling out of the Horde