you can rotate stuff by selecting it clicking the rotate button and drag, it's that simplegohan43 said:i've tried vertex modifier cuz yes im a starter modeler but i cant like rotate and create stuff in it..i can only edit small stuff in models..and i've tried the tuts on oinkerwinkles site but i couldnt do the last one and the geoset merging one...i might try 3dsmax 9.0 since my friend is gunna help me with it