War of the ancients

[Phoonix]

discuss war of the ancients stuff here

 

[VeljkoM]

I don't know much about it.Some basic stuff but because it was mainly about elves so it just wasn't interesting.Only gods are cool.

 

[Misha]

The War of the Anchients is one of the most crucial times in the War3 Lore.... Cenarius apears there for the first time as an ally of the Kaldorei.

 

[VeljkoM]

But no humans or orcs. I like more mortal races.
You also forgot other Demi-gods.

 

[Phoonix]

lol if the war never took place warcraft wouldn't even exist...
so Veljkom! go learn your things boy!

 

[VeljkoM]

But that is old and we never actually seen it.I like LOTR but I didn't like Silmarilon that much.

 

[Calas]

Did you say what i think you said... this lore wasent interesting?! Dear god man this is the best lore in the game the forming of the world the "death" of sargaras and the greatest battle of all time not to mention the betrayal of the high elves *Sneaky Bastards* if blizzard ever had the energy to make a cinamatic of this battle as a movie it would sell millions! and agreed go learn your lore boy!

 

[DarkIron Dwarf]

There is a actual novel for war of the ancients it tells a lot like why Illidan was imprisoned and so much more.

 

[Dark Master]

Yeah. But today`s High Elves are not Enemies of Night Elves. Why? We all know that Highborne betrayed Night Elves in anger for magic (just as Kael). Than evil Queen Azshara summoned Sargeras. Some Highborne returned back to Kaldorei. Later, they went out to the Great Sea, in search for a new homeland, and they landed on Quel`Thalas. They called themself - High Elves.

 

[arthas_king]

I wanna learn more about Illidans improsinent .Someone explain me pls D:

 

[Phoonix]

well as you know Illidan was becoming one of the highborn addicted to magic and always wanted to adapt the powers of the well. well when Azshara was summoning Sargeras Illidan, Malfurion and that priest the name slipped me. went to Cenarus to get help, Cenarus advised to go and ask the dragons help. some more things happen then. now when they went back to stop the summoning illidan realized the well would be destroyed. they were going to blow it up. so he took some vials and filled them whit the wells waters. when the well was destroyed they landed on the NEW Kalimdor. all the land between was a sea now. they somehow got to Mount hajyal and started climbing it. as soon as Illidan got on the top he filled the lake/pond there whit the waters from the vials, creating a new well. Malfurion was so mad he locked up his own brother. and to protect this well the Druids planted a tree witch got natures blessing etc etc. you know the drill.

 

[Tarfen]

The High Elves got the lighter skin because
A) the magics changed them as it did with Malygos ((If you noticed even during the night elven era he was a high elf when in mortal form))
and
B) they adapted to the sunlight as sunlight weakens the Night Elves this way they could cast magic easier in the daytime

 

[AIagremm]

B)Is wrong. Night elves dont care about sunlight, because it doesnt weaken them. It is really easy actually. Night elves worship the moon, and high elves worship the sun.

Nordrassil was planted by Alexstraza. And there was a little of the Old Gods.

 

[Misha]

hmm.. the quell'dorei, or the highborne had the same skin color before, but after theirexile and creation of the sun well, they changed color for some unknown reason and became the high elves

 

[Tarfen]

Ha read the book Alag it clearly states that during the day they are weakend...lemme go find a quote..1 sec "Surprisingly the daylight did not bother him." and "Illidan aside, the rest of the night elves knew that they could go no futher--not in the daylight" and there are many other quotes beside that especially in the beginning referring to "in a weaker state in the sunlight" meaning that they infact are weaker
and there is no unkown reason to why they became high elves..
Go read a)
and b)

 

[terradont]

As far as i recall, it's not the magic, but the lack of the well of eternity's power, that turned them into high elves.

 

[Tarfen]

That holds truth to it as well

 

[Misha]

night elves are nocturnal and their magic is stronger in the night. but their strenght on itself is not.... i guess.

 

[AIagremm]

Night elves ignore the sunlight. Im sure the book ment that Kaldorei resistance hid from the Highborne.
And the high elves first changed because of this:
After a night elf becomes a mage, he has many changes that take 1 week to occur. Its painfull, his hair and skin colours change and stuff.
Then after the Well of Eternity exploded, they had lack of magic just like terradont said.
And their final changes occured after the creation of Sunwell.

 

[Misha]

and strangely, first the quel'dorei embraced the holy light spells when they met humans

 

[Tarfen]

ughh ill get more quotes...one second...
"Lord Ravencrest ordered the night elves to move out the next day. It was clear that most of his follower would have preferred to march at night, but the noble would not let the demons see him as too predictable. His fighters were gradually becoming as accustomed to the sun as much as they could, even though that meant that their strength was not at its peak

 

[AIagremm]

Well. I dont know.
As I know it Kaldorei(night elves of the War of the Ancients), were a normal civilization.
And after the war, the night elves preferd to stay at night.

 

[Tarfen]

well if that is true..not just after..but during....that quote is during the war..

 

[AIagremm]

I know. I mean that after the war the night elves liked to stay in night.
Maybe the book info is a retcon.

 

[Tarfen]

hmmmmmmm idk....im just basing it off of knowledge from the writer and book...this is during War of the Ancients
thats around 10,000 years before Warcraft 3...

But it says that night elves liked to stay in the night during war because their mental and physical strength are better then daylight...but it also says that their slowly adapting to the sunlight...

 

[AIagremm]

Strange. Theres nothing about the sunlight on wowwiki.

 

[Tarfen]

I know..i tried to search it on wowwiki when i was bein lazy but i found i just had to look in the book and took me a hour b4 i could find some of those quotes...

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, it is possibly a retcon.
When was the book written?

 

[Tarfen]

It was written by Richard A. Knaak, 2004 for well of eternity and demon soul and 2005 for the sundering...However...you have to remember that blizzard CHOOSES who writes their books...so obviously...it isnt a retcon...otherwise it wouldnt be official.

 

[AIagremm]

Strange, really strange. But I think, that we need to continue with our number one priority - talking about war of the ancients.

 

[Tarfen]

haha yes..of course..
It is very epic, But one thing i dont get... Hakkar the Houndmaster..why has blizzard made no other of his race?
or even talked much about his race?
He is a very strange character, and i think he is pretty bad ass too..even if he does die pretty quick >:]

 

[Misha]

strange indeed

 

[AIagremm]

It is believed that he is a son of an Old God(whats with the world?)
Or actually is one.

 

[Tarfen]

Hakkar the Houndmaster?
really?
but he is a demon...ill check it on wowwiki..
lol ur confused..
we're talking about a demon..not the soulflayer

Hakkar is a powerful entity in the history of Azeroth, and old god to the trolls.LoC 59 Brann Bronzebeard believes that he may be a son of an Old God or even an Old God himself.HPG 185

^ ^ ^
that isnt the right one >.<
the one we're talking about is a huge flaming skeletal knight with big horns and a whip

 

[AIagremm]

Right. Sorry, its just hard that there are two Hakkars.
Actually the demon one is real. Blizzard made the Old God of trolls Hakkar too, becouse they liked the name.

 

[Tarfen]

yea i know i wowikied it >.<
but uhm..this will probly be my very last post...internet is going off :/
have fun talking bout WoTA

 

[VeljkoM]

Do you want to learn the truth about the War of the Ancients? All you know is a lie of the dragons. Learn the truth!
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/forgotten-war-ver-2-008-a-82234/?prev=t%3D43%26r%3D20%26d%3Dlist%26page%3D2

And no this isn't really truth but it is still best story you'll ever see.

 

[AIagremm]

I only played till IV, but I still think its crazy.

 

[VeljkoM]

It gets better. It explains how illidan lost his eyes and how he than learned to fight blind. Then you find out the real use of Demon soul disk and in the end you see why Deathwing is traitor really.

 

[Fussiler1]

Deathwing never charmed me, meh..

 

[OMonaxos]

Dragons never do...Anyway I would like to ask something;at the end,when Sargeras was entering Azeroth what happened?

They say at WoWWiki he ceased to be or something like that

 

[Fussiler1]

No. Then some idiot edited it.

Look, Cenarius, Malfurion and the druids with the Night Elf rebels stormed the palace, trying to close the portal. However, while fighting Aszhara and the Highborne they needed mroe time, so Broxagar the Red, an Orc who got in the past by a rift along with Rhonin, Broxagar took a legendary axe from Cenarius and walked into the portal, he kept slaying demons until he stood upon a great hill. Finally, Sargeras came and Broxagar managed to wound him on his leg. However, Sargeras then killed him and the portal got closed and the Well of Enternity destroyed

 

[AIagremm]

Actually Broxagar stepped inside the portal, in one of the Legion's realms.
And when they were closing the portal, they felt that evil much darker than Sargeras is trying to redirect the Portal. It were the Old Gods.

 

[AIagremm]

Ravenhold! O.O
The great fortress!

 

[StormWarriors2]

what?

 

[AIagremm]

Ravenhold! O.O

 

[StormWarriors2]

whats that?

 

[Fussiler1]

A Hold.

 

[AIagremm]

That looks like a raven!

 

[StormWarriors2]

wow very good nice job i still don't know wtf you are talking about