War at the Gilneas gate

[Moderator]

12:28, 12th Dec 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[BlackWorgen]

I just uploaded this, and i will make an update right now!

 

[Midnighters]

Maybe post a few screenshots, and tell what the map is about.

 

[BlackWorgen]

Yes i will do that soon, i´m just fixing the map and will release an update in about a hour or something.

 

[-Kobas-]

• Bad Terrain
• Poor Map Description
• No Credits
• No map preview, loading screen
• Bad Triggers
• Memory leaks
• Boring Gameplay

1/5 Vote for Rejection
Map Reported

 

[BlackWorgen]

Okey i´ll create a new map with awesome terrain and triggers and awesome gameplay, and i´ll release it next week, ok?

 

[Shadowraze]

LOL..
You Know What..
[-] Bad GamePlaY
[-] Poor Terrain
[-] Not Enough Gold Mines
[-] At the start, i dont know what will happen until the abomination wave.. so you should put something in the quest menu showing you must defend and blablabla..
[-] Improve Description with these BB Codes.
Vote: REJECTION

 

[Septimus]

War at the Gilneas gate is a defense/survival genre map by BlackWorgen. To begin with, the description are definitely unacceptable as it have no clues of what is the map all about which it failed to comply with the map submission rules as the rules indicates an description must have adequate information about it. Failure to comply with submission rules would have the map being rejected.

Next comes the terrain, the terrain obviously a work of newbies as it lack of the proper use of tiles variation, terrain height and destructible/doodad. The entire map was flat and 95% of the terrain was entirely pack with nothing but the tree itself.

Scripting/Triggering contain memory leaks, which often an mistake by newbies in World Editor that often cause an serious fps drops. As the scripting/triggering is defective, player with poor performance computer would probably experience an lag during the gameplay.

Next comes the unit object, those entire unit in the map was nothing but the basic unit that often player seen in melee genre game. The only thing the author does was reducing the build time and changing the name of the unit.

Gameplay and replayability values are absolutely zero, it turn downs the will of the player to even play the map the moment it started cause the map have many poor aspect such as the lack of details.

Overall, the map quality was very poor and it was obvious a work of newbies which I strictly recommend the author to visit the hiveworkshop tutorial section to get an crash course of how to use World Editor in proper way (Click Here) while an comment/opinion at map development section (Click Here) since map section are strictly restricted to complete map (Beta stage map).

The quality control of map standard at hiveworkshop was stricter and tougher than it's past, thus this map does not meet the min quality requirement to be approve. In other word, it was 1/5 (Unacceptable) and my vote was Rejected.

 

[BlackWorgen]

how do i delete the map? '

 

[APproject]

I rate this resource by 1/5 and I suggest it to be rejected due to its way too poor quality.

1. Description at THW needs an improvement.
2. Why Player 9 have more forces at the beginning that its ally?
3. Objectives do not exist.
4. Training Tooltip lie, it says, for example, Train Footman, and a unit is called Gilneas Soldier. Same with other units.
5. All I see is Abominations, Abominations and more of Abominations, the variaty is too low, implent more units.
6. Terrain and environment art is way too tragic, needs more work.
7. Why to make it 2 versus 1? Espeically of that the one is basically controlling Abominations only..
8. Why to give so many forces at the beginning? It is like some updrages and plenty of Farms been planted and not needed anymore.
9. The entire map contains nothing exceptional: basic units, basic buildings, upgrades - nothing interesting and impressive, meaning the work of Object editor is terrible. This makes the map not interesting at all.
10. I destryed all forces of Player 2 and the game was still on, makes no sense I guess.
11. As I understood the description, 20th wave is suppoosed to be the last one, somewhy there was 21st and more..
12. Tichondrius has died and the game didn't end, somewhy.. Meaning there is no victory conditions.
13. In the Loading Screen, Tichondrius is spelled wrongly.
14. When a group of Abominations wiped out my bunch of forces, then turned back and ran to the position where they were summoned. It means there triggering system is badly developed.
15. Entire Player 2 forces were gathering only in the centre of Player 9, why Player 1 is being ignored?
16. Entire forces of Play 1 and 9 had been destroyed and the game was still on, meaning there is no Defeat conditions.

This is my first map ever, so please no stupid comments

I don't understand people like you, if you're new, it doesn't give you any permission to upload garbage into this site. If this would be allowed, THW would be full of this kind of maps, made in less than several hours or in less than an hour, like this one..

Generally, work of less than hour, please do not upload such resources here.
Of course, you are welcome to improve your work. The purpose of my post is not to say it is a crap, but to help you to improve it.

 

[-Kobas-]

There Septimus explained my post very well

 

[BlackWorgen]

i asked how to delete the map in my other comment, i don´t want comments about the map -.-'

 

[APproject]

Yeah, it must be my fault, because at 12:39 your comment was posted and at 12:40 was mine, one minute difference. That's right, I shouldn't have posted that, you don't want to improve anymore, seems like I ignored your post. Sorry.

Don't ignore my or Septimus's review if you don't want to see the same in your next work, read and learn from your mistakes. But whatever, you make those like a factory, map in few hours, guess you're not the one who would be willing to improve or pour more effort into it.

 

[Shadowraze]

You can ask a moderator, and tell them to delete your map

 

[Tleno]

Just self-report on your map or ask moderator, asking to delete this map... wait... you can delete a resource yourself, right? Use thread tools or resource tools and select delete.

And maps need more work thatn you think. You can't make a good map in just a week.

 

[Krl70]

Okey i´ll create a new map with awesome terrain and triggers and awesome gameplay, and i´ll release it next week, ok?

Next week, i would bet you against that... Making a great map is no simple job. You would also need an description telling us about the map, and other than that, what most of the others said.

 

[BlackWorgen]

I´m not a guy who plays 2 hours per day dude... if u knew me, u would throw out my computer out of the window

 

[Krl70]

I´m not a guy who plays 2 hours per day dude... if u knew me, u would throw out my computer out of the window

XD, of course i wouldn't, but just wait until my back heals. Still, i don't change my mind, making a really awesome map takes a lot of manhours to do. and you would also need to concider the endless reading of the tutorials page (It is extremely helpful tough...). Believe me, i know.

 

[Tleno]

Well see dude, you have to learn a lot before starting to make a real good maps. So you should spend more time learning to make maps/terrain/read tutorials before starting a project.

 

[BlackWorgen]

yeah, thanks for the comments anyway tleno and KrI70

 

[JGGDMakervb6]

• Bad Terrain
• Poor Map Description
• No Credits
• No map preview, loading screen
• Bad Triggers
• Memory leaks
• Boring Gameplay

1/5 Vote for Rejection
Map Reported

but this is his first map

 

[Tleno]

but this is his first map

First or one hundreth, all maps have the same requirements. Hope it's author will understand all his mistakes and rejection of this map will motivate him to immprove his modding skills and create a really good map in future.

 

[BlackWorgen]

yeah, iv'e already learned of my mistakes today :/

 

[Krl70]

yeah, iv'e already learned of my mistakes today :/

Excellent, that's a nice response. I seem to recall that someone answered me with: "fuk u" That's a little... Inpolite, don't you think?

 

[BlackWorgen]

Excellent, that's a nice response. I seem to recall that someone answered me with: "fuk u" That's a little... Inpolite, don't you think?

Yeah, that´s very inpolite, bad comments are actualy pretty good, because then people learn of their mistakes

my next map will not be like this one, i promise

 

[-Kobas-]

but this is his first map

Well I am sorry for disappointing him but resources submitted here must have those things to be approved!
Once when you add those things into your map I will check each one completely and give full review!

 

[Midnighters]

You can't make a good map in just a week.

Not true, you can make a perfectly good map in a week. Look at those that participated in the weekend mapping contest, we made decent fun maps in 2 days, if we had a week, imagine how good they would have been.

 

[rcshaggy]

Well like everyone else said I'll be rejecting it.

You tried your best, but it didn't turn out to great now did it?
Oh and by the way practice makes perfect man and how about you upload something else that might take your heart and soul into it.

 

[Krl70]

Not true, you can make a perfectly good map in a week. Look at those that participated in the weekend mapping contest, we made decent fun maps in 2 days, if we had a week, imagine how good they would have been.

Well, that was mini-games i recall? Personally i am thinking of a rather large map, tough, i did not suggest that in any way.

 

[Midnighters]

It was a minigame, but me and my partner chose to make a full map, me and him could probably pump out a map per week if we took the time.

 

[Ramza]

It was a minigame, but me and my partner chose to make a full map, me and him could probably pump out a map per week if we took the time.

Anyone could pump out a map every hour, but not very good ones. To create really original, amazing maps takes at least a month.

A week is just way too short to balance and polish everything.

 

[Krl70]

Well, we can't really judge by days can we? People spends different amounts of time at WE.

 

[Ramza]

Of course you can. Just like you know a video game will be average at best if it's worked on for less than a year. Same goes for movies, books, etc.

A week is almost nothing.

 

[Eldubs]

I rate this resource by 1/5 and I suggest it to be rejected due to its way too poor quality.

1. Description at THW needs an improvement.
2. Why Player 9 have more forces at the beginning that its ally?
3. Objectives do not exist.
4. Training Tooltip lie, it says, for example, Train Footman, and a unit is called Gilneas Soldier. Same with other units.
5. All I see is Abominations, Abominations and more of Abominations, the variaty is too low, implent more units.
6. Terrain and environment art is way too tragic, needs more work.
7. Why to make it 2 versus 1? Espeically of that the one is basically controlling Abominations only..
8. Why to give so many forces at the beginning? It is like some updrages and plenty of Farms been planted and not needed anymore.
9. The entire map contains nothing exceptional: basic units, basic buildings, upgrades - nothing interesting and impressive, meaning the work of Object editor is terrible. This makes the map not interesting at all.
10. I destryed all forces of Player 2 and the game was still on, makes no sense I guess.
11. As I understood the description, 20th wave is suppoosed to be the last one, somewhy there was 21st and more..
12. Tichondrius has died and the game didn't end, somewhy.. Meaning there is no victory conditions.
13. In the Loading Screen, Tichondrius is spelled wrongly.
14. When a group of Abominations wiped out my bunch of forces, then turned back and ran to the position where they were summoned. It means there triggering system is badly developed.
15. Entire Player 2 forces were gathering only in the centre of Player 9, why Player 1 is being ignored?
16. Entire forces of Play 1 and 9 had been destroyed and the game was still on, meaning there is no Defeat conditions.


I don't understand people like you, if you're new, it doesn't give you any permission to upload garbage into this site. If this would be allowed, THW would be full of this kind of maps, made in less than several hours or in less than an hour, like this one..

Generally, work of less than hour, please do not upload such resources here.
Of course, you are welcome to improve your work. The purpose of my post is not to say it is a crap, but to help you to improve it.

simple

 

[takakenji]

Okey i´ll create a new map with awesome terrain and triggers and awesome gameplay, and i´ll release it next week, ok?

um k

It was a minigame, but me and my partner chose to make a full map, me and him could probably pump out a map per week if we took the time.

see above

 

[Midnighters]

Anyone could pump out a map every hour, but not very good ones. To create really original, amazing maps takes at least a month.

A week is just way too short to balance and polish everything.

Not by any means, a quality and original map can easily be made in a week. If you want to dedicate that kind of time to it.

 

[Krl70]

Of course you can. Just like you know a video game will be average at best if it's worked on for less than a year. Same goes for movies, books, etc.

A week is almost nothing.

Well, if i write for a minute every day for a couple of years, i won't come up with an super-awesome book.

 

[takakenji]

Not by any means, a quality and original map can easily be made in a week. If you want to dedicate that kind of time to it.

not really

i mean if you like stay up 24 hours for that whole week maybe but you'll probably die before then

 

[Deadballs]

Bad Terrain
Boring Gameplay
Give more Info of what will attack
Improve Description

 

[Midnighters]

not really

i mean if you like stay up 24 hours for that whole week maybe but you'll probably die before then

Yes really. And I have been up for 5 days straight with absolutely no sleep, then 2 hours of sleep, and another 3 days awake.

 

[JGGDMakervb6]

Well I am sorry for disappointing him but resources submitted here must have those things to be approved!
Once when you add those things into your map I will check each one completely and give full review!

Just do not disappoint someone who is a beginner in creating maps

 

[Krl70]

Just do not disappoint someone who is a beginner in creating maps

Well, it varies from person to person if you should, me for one would get inspired to make a better map, whilst others might stop mapping all together.