Visibility Delay

[Shadow Fury]

If you already tested my map, then you'll understand what I'll be speaking about very easily. If not, well, let me explain. Basically, it's very dark in my map and you play with a first-person camera. As long as you walk with normal speed, everything with the visibility is ok. However, when I use a skill that speeds me up, I end up in the black mask before even exploring it! That's awkward because it makes it harder to run away because you end up kissing a cliff and clicking around randomly like a demented person.
I tried in the Gameplay Constants to set the Unit Visibility Change Rate to 0.00 but it didn't make things different. Therefore I decided to consult the almighty triggers and create a periodic trigger that provides visiblity every 0.01 seconds (everything is destroyed then recreated so no leaks) yet it didn't really improve that much the performance and it even caused a little delay with a full house (10 players).
So is there something I missed or is it just impossible to fix?

 

[RobertMKD]

Have you tried setting Unit Visibility Rate to 0.01 ? Maybe it does not work with 0.00, also try to set it 0.1.. I think 0.00 is like doing something every 0.00 seconds..

 

[Wietlol]

I suppose that the unit visibility rate is a very heavy operation and is therefor set to a pretty high default value.
I would not recomment setting it to any value like 0.01 or 0.02 because that would be too heavy.
0.10 should work more than fine.

 

[Shadow Fury]

I suppose that the unit visibility rate is a very heavy operation and is therefor set to a pretty high default value.
I would not recomment setting it to any value like 0.01 or 0.02 because that would be too heavy.
0.10 should work more than fine.

Already tried 0.01 so I guess I shall try 0.10 and see what happens.

 

[Arad MNK]

Off-Topic Note: NEVER use "Every 0.01 seconds". It is buggy while on Battle.net. Use "Every 0.03 Seconds" instead. It works as well as "0.01", Believe me Maybe this caused the Delay?

 

[Shadow Fury]

I think it's time to bump this... still didn't find the solution.

 

[Arad MNK]

How does that skill to speed up works?

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Fog of war updates pretty slow in the game. This has always been the case, for example when blinking towards the border of the fog of war.

Unfortunately, no way around this except by increasing the visibility range of units.

If you use first person camera anyway, why even have fog of war? Just disable it and save yourself from a lot of other fog-of-war related trouble like rendering issues with alpha tiles aswell.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Fog of war updates pretty slow in the game. This has always been the case, for example when blinking towards the border of the fog of war.

Unfortunately, no way around this except by increasing the visibility range of units.

If you use first person camera anyway, why even have fog of war? Just disable it and save yourself from a lot of other fog-of-war related trouble like rendering issues with alpha tiles aswell.

Revealing the whole map is too bad. My map is supposed to be a dark maze where you are only supposed to see what's around due to the scarce light.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Revealing the whole map is too bad. My map is supposed to be a dark maze where you are only supposed to see what's around due to the scarce light.

Then use actual light instead of fog of war?

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/3d-modeling-tutorials-282/animated-dnc-light-models-221425/

 

[Shadow Fury]

It's not fog of war by the way, it's black mask. Also, what's that function you just did? How does it work exactly? Do I just copy-paste that in the custom script?

 

[Wietlol]

In that case... make a cloud that has a high opacity and make it follow your unit.
The cloud will not allow you to see through a few meters through it (like a real cloud) and the vision gets better the closer the object you want to see is to you.

 

[Shadow Fury]

In that case... make a cloud that has a high opacity and make it follow your unit.
The cloud will not allow you to see through a few meters through it (like a real cloud) and the vision gets better the closer the object you want to see is to you.

A... real cloud? How do I get this result (model or something)? You also need to take care that I don't want this cloud to be seen by other players. I mean, if I am walking within my own cloud but I encounter another player with the cloud, wouldn't I see it? That would be awkward I think.

 

[Wietlol]

A model like the cloud that is used to disable buildings from attacking... dunno its name.
Just make it half way transparant and make it huge.

You can make the cloud (which is a unit) have 100% tranparancy using triggers.
You can do this locally for all players except the one with the unit that the cloud is attached to.
This will make you only see your own cloud.

 

[SAUS]

Is it possible to make your own vision trigger - specific to just the player unit?

I haven't played your map, so forgive me if I say something that doesn't make sense.

Anyway, my idea is that you could periodically check where the unit is and update the player's vision with a trigger (reveal the area around the unit that is within vision range). You could even have this trigger only active when the player activates the speed ability.

I hope this helps.

 

[Shadow Fury]

Is it possible to make your own vision trigger - specific to just the player unit?

I haven't played your map, so forgive me if I say something that doesn't make sense.

Anyway, my idea is that you could periodically check where the unit is and update the player's vision with a trigger (reveal the area around the unit that is within vision range). You could even have this trigger only active when the player activates the speed ability.

I hope this helps.

Lol SAUS I already have this trigger because I want black mask everywhere without fog of war.
Wietol, I am still stuck. How can I create this cloud?

 

[SAUS]

Lol SAUS I already have this trigger because I want black mask everywhere without fog of war.
Wietol, I am still stuck. How can I create this cloud?

Oh is that what is causing the black mask to stay there too long? or...

Can you modify it to not put black mask in the hero's radius? This is probably all more simple if I actually played your map lol. Can't do that right now though.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

It's not fog of war by the way, it's black mask. Also, what's that function you just did? How does it work exactly? Do I just copy-paste that in the custom script?

Read the tutorial I linked.

Don't use clouds, don't care about black mask. Read the tutorial. It's what you want.