Units stop responding at random

[HerlySQR]

Hello, in the map I'm making, for some reason in random moments when I wanna order a unit to move by clicking, it just doesn't do anything, the unit is not paused, the UI is visible, but it just stay quiet, with selecting another unit and then select it back again it acts normally.
I just don't know why happens, I could have minimized the game and when I maximize it again, it just happens, do you know what can cause it?

 

[Uncle]

Might be this?

How to reduce lag, "many units move to"

Hi there, I'm making a map and units spawn in different buildings and at that moment they are ordered to move to the objective, I'm using "TempPoint" variables and the custom script to remove the lag of leaks, but the more units are ordered, the more lag, I would like to know if there is a...

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[HerlySQR]

Might be this?

How to reduce lag, "many units move to"

Hi there, I'm making a map and units spawn in different buildings and at that moment they are ordered to move to the objective, I'm using "TempPoint" variables and the custom script to remove the lag of leaks, but the more units are ordered, the more lag, I would like to know if there is a...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Maybe it has to do with I have too many regions in the map.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Too many regions (actual regions, not GUI rect "regions") is known to cause the path finder to do pretty silly things at times. You can quickly test this by saving a backup of your map and then removing all triggers. If the units start to act normally then it is caused by too many regions, or other script related causes.

 

[HerlySQR]

Too many regions (actual regions, not GUI rect "regions") is known to cause the path finder to do pretty silly things at times. You can quickly test this by saving a backup of your map and then removing all triggers. If the units start to act normally then it is caused by too many regions, or other script related causes.

I can't be sure even if I test, because is very unlikely, unless I test it with people, but I can try minimizing the regions.

 

[Chaosium]

Does your map feature very high number of units? If too many orders are given at one time, units can just stop taking any action because there's too much stuff to process for the game

 

[Dr Super Good]

but I can try minimizing the regions.

Again, it is only JASS regions that affect this. The GUI regions are rects and so do not affect this.

A JASS region is created whenever "a unit enters/leaves X region" GUI event is used. Internally this creates a region object and fills it with cells based roughly on the shape of the provided rect. The most common cause of the issue is dozens of triggers with events "a unit enters (playable map area)" as those create regions which contain most cells on the map. With 480x480 maps even a few such triggers can start to cause issues.

 

[HerlySQR]

Does your map feature very high number of units? If too many orders are given at one time, units can just stop taking any action because there's too much stuff to process for the game

Not too many, so I don't know.

Again, it is only JASS regions that affect this. The GUI regions are rects and so do not affect this.

A JASS region is created whenever "a unit enters/leaves X region" GUI event is used. Internally this creates a region object and fills it with cells based roughly on the shape of the provided rect. The most common cause of the issue is dozens of triggers with events "a unit enters (playable map area)" as those create regions which contain most cells on the map. With 480x480 maps even a few such triggers can start to cause issues.

I know, when I said regions I was referring to the Jass regions.

 

[HerlySQR]

No, it wasn't the regions, the units still get stucked.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Try disabling triggers in case it is some strange trigger interaction.

If you can recreate the issue reliably, such as in a test map or a special build of your map, it could potentially be debugged.

 

[HerlySQR]

This problem is still happening, and happens when there are too many players in the map, so is hard to replicate, but what would that mean that happens just where are too many players (not too many units, each player can have at most 3 controllable units)?

 

[moddiemads]

did you test if the units complete the last order before they stop responding?

if you press S (or order to stop) do the units start responding again?

if yes, i encountered this error when using a triggered Silence on units. it somehow messes up the internal order queue for the units, i think

 

[HerlySQR]

did you test if the units complete the last order before they stop responding?

if you press S (or order to stop) do the units start responding again?

if yes, i encountered this error when using a triggered Silence on units. it somehow messes up the internal order queue for the units, i think

Probably that is the problem, but I never checked the previous order and I never tried press S, also I don't use triggered silence, but some abilities are based on silence or incinerate and channel-based abilites with silence as base order ID, and they are casted by the normal AI or players.
Just in case, I wanna know if that could count.

 

[moddiemads]

i think it would

in my map i had this problem where if my hero was silenced, it would stop responding until i pressed S. it seems to be a SIlence-specific interaction with the internal order queue of the unit.

i tried solving it by everytime the hero got silenced, the trigger would order the hero to Stop... but that felt too clunky for me, so i just removed the silence

 

[HerlySQR]

i think it would

in my map i had this problem where if my hero was silenced, it would stop responding until i pressed S. it seems to be a SIlence-specific interaction with the internal order queue of the unit.

i tried solving it by everytime the hero got silenced, the trigger would order the hero to Stop... but that felt too clunky for me, so i just removed the silence

Nope, it wasn't the reason, pressing stop didn't make the unit respond again.