[Trigger] Tutorial Clarification

[Bob1897]

I was wondering if someone could clarify the some issues I am having with the tutorial found here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...orials-279/making-a-grenade-type-spell-90985/
1. what is a dummy unit?
2. what is a dummy ability?
3. what is a tempunit1, tempunit2, and temploc?
4. what are any other variables in the trigger, as I'm not that keen with variables.
Thanks,

 

[Vizel]

I was wondering if someone could clarify the some issues I am having with the tutorial found here: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...orials-279/making-a-grenade-type-spell-90985/
1. what is a dummy unit?
2. what is a dummy ability?
3. what is a tempunit1, tempunit2, and temploc?
4. what are any other variables in the trigger, as I'm not that keen with variables.
Thanks,

1. A dummy unit is a "fake" unit that is invisible to the players, and is otherwise unknown to them.

2. A dummy ability is basically the same thing except its the ability that goes on the hero that costs mana, fires the cooldown, but has no effect on its own. You then let the triggers, which are set off by using the dummy ability, fire off the real spell to do what you want.

3. Those sound like variables. Looks to me like 2 unit variables and a point variable.

4. I think I answered that with #3.

 

[Bob1897]

so how would I make each of those? (excluding the variables, as I'm quite sure I can figure that out.)

 

[aznricepuff]

To make a dummy unit, just use any unit, give it the Locust ability, and make its model something that can't be seen.

The spell 'Channel' (hero spell) was included in WE for the sole purpose of being a dummy ability. It has options to customize almost everything, including unique/group cast, instant/unit/point targeting, and even its baseorder id, something that no other spell allows you to change. It does have limitations, though...it can't be easily made into a channeling spell (ironic, isn't it) and it cannot apply buffs, even though it has a buff field.

 

[Bob1897]

To make a dummy unit, just use any unit, give it the Locust ability, and make its model something that can't be seen.

The spell 'Channel' (hero spell) was included in WE for the sole purpose of being a dummy ability. It has options to customize almost everything, including unique/group cast, instant/unit/point targeting, and even its baseorder id, something that no other spell allows you to change. It does have limitations, though...it can't be easily made into a channeling spell (ironic, isn't it) and it cannot apply buffs, even though it has a buff field.

alright, I think I've got everything except:
how can I make the dummy unit invisible? There is no "none" option, so what should I use?

 

[Bob1897]

any suggestions?

 

[GhostWolf]

Change its model to anything not valid, such as "efnf23nf023nf0.mdl", or ".mdl", or anything like that.

Also add the ability "Locust" to it so it won't be selectable.

 

[Bob1897]

Change its model to anything not valid, such as "efnf23nf023nf0.mdl", or ".mdl", or anything like that.

Also add the ability "Locust" to it so it won't be selectable.

is the chinimera lightning missle okay? there's nothing in it's stand animation. Also, I should make the shadow "none" correct?

 

[Bob1897]

also, for the casting ability (based off chanel) should I make everything have no model?

 

[Bob1897]

what is "grenade projectile" in the trigger?

 

[aznricepuff]

don't use the chimaera lightning. If your dummy unit dies, you will see the model's death animation. Just do what GhostWolf said.

And yes, for the dummy ability, make sure all of the effects have no model (though I think those effects don't show up anyway).

 

[Bob1897]

don't use the chimaera lightning. If your dummy unit dies, you will see the model's death animation. Just do what GhostWolf said.

And yes, for the dummy ability, make sure all of the effects have no model (though I think those effects don't show up anyway).

I am running into trouble: I can't get the human mountain king-thunderclap ability. How can I get that?

 

[aznricepuff]

What do you mean you can't get it? If you can't find it it's in the Ability editor under Human->Heroes.

 

[Bob1897]

What do you mean you can't get it? If you can't find it it's in the Ability editor under Human->Heroes.

no I mean that in the trigger, when your ordering a unit, I can only get Human thunderclap or something.

 

[Bob1897]

alright, nvm I figured that out, but now my base channel ability won't work (I can research it, but then it doesn't show up in my heroes ability panel)...what am I doing wrong?

 

[Bob1897]

hello???

 

[Justify]

Hey, you can wait more then 30 minutes, WTF -.-
Channel - Data - Visible or something like that... but this question has been awnsered a million times...
Oh btw... don't tripple post -.-

 

[Vizel]

Okay this tutorial on spells explains everything about dummy units and abilities. you should read those parts of it (http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...-279/basics-of-trigger-enhancing-spells-7334/)

Anyway, just something to add from the first page:

I did not know that "channel" ability was so useful! Thank you! I was wondering why it was in the list, xD