Troll Medium

[Moderator]

13:17, 28th Oct 2015
Misha: Blinky the All-Seeing has turned out really nice you just might wanna make sure that model's name, and the front part of the portrait's name match exactly, or peeps might not see the portrait ingame at all..
also you could move the weapon attachment point to the actual weapon's center, and you might wanna make the portrait model look more like Blinkie.. then i'll be updating this moderation with a higher rating

 

[Skipper]

Friends, comrades, unicorns and you other people of Hiveworkshop.

I need help. I would like to make the big one eye to blink, but I don´t know how, I read a lot of tutorials, but still can´t get the thing working. Thank you

 

[Misha]

Friends, comrades, unicorns and you other people of Hiveworkshop.

I need help. I would like to make the big one eye to blink, but I don´t know how, I read a lot of tutorials, but still can´t get the thing working. Thank you

Hm.. would you like to have the eye blink all the time or actually stop blinking when the troll dies?
one way is easy-ish, the other, not so much

 

[Skipper]

Hm.. would you like to have the eye blink all the time or actually stop blinking when the troll dies?
one way is easy-ish, the other, not so much

Blink as much as possible Doesn´t matter.

 

[Misha]

Blink as much as possible Doesn´t matter.

is it alright if i try just transplanting the animated eye from the watcher ward?

 

[Paillan]

I think it would be funny to see the eye spin around in stand channel. Also is this a unit or a hero? not sure cause I don't see a hero aura but dissipates? anyway, GJ!

 

[Skipper]

is it alright if i try just transplanting the animated eye from the watcher ward?

It´s more than welcomed

 

[InfernalTater]

I'll wait for you to update it with the blinking eye to rate it. I do quite like this, but that is a vital feature, so the eye really feels like a part of him and not just something weird hanging over his head.

Edit: Wow, you've come a long way with this. It's close enough to a 4/5 to earn one.

 

[Misha]

It´s more than welcomed

so i did it. It looks very derpy hanging around his crotch. But it works as you wanted and is attached to the main model. would you be able to adjust the position of the main eye bone in each animation by yourself?

also, some of the animations he uses really could be changed, because his weapon (or that wooden stake thing) clip through other parts or through the ground..

also², for some reason now his weapon turns TC in some anims dunno what happened, but it kinda felt cool

 

[MogulKahn]

Damn, this is one sick and unique troll model! Keep them coming!

 

[Skipper]

so i did it. It looks very derpy hanging around his crotch. But it works as you wanted and is attached to the main model. would you be able to adjust the position of the main eye bone in each animation by yourself?

also, some of the animations he uses really could be changed, because his weapon (or that wooden stake thing) clip through other parts or through the ground..

also², for some reason now his weapon turns TC in some anims dunno what happened, but it kinda felt cool

Betiful! Can you send it to me? Will divide credits to both of us

 

[Misha]

Betiful! Can you send it to me? Will divide credits to both of us

sent over pastebin and PM enjoy

 

[Kyrbi0]

I really love the idea behind this guy. "Sighters" or 'Mediums' are a solid addition to any good Troll race (wish I'd thought of it myself. xD (well, in a way I did. But not specifically this way)). I particularly love that it's a Jungle Troll. : )

I'm a little... Weirded out by the back-rack-stuff. The giant Watcher eyeball is cool, and the skull-with-eyeballs is weird-but-cool... But both together? Seems a bit overkill. Maybe.

Nice eyepatch, cool weapon... The "Stand Victory" animation becomes problematic with the huge Watcher-eye.

Also, might want to decide Hero /or/ Unit (or, make it both); it has Dissipate anims but no hero glow. I'd suggest adding Hero Glow or modding Dissipate to be Decay & adding Decay Flesh. (actually, both (like Direfury does it) would be ideal).

~

In a perfect world, I'd say ditch the Watcher ward-back-rack; just have it floating in the air above his shoulder, peering around & floating to & fro as the guy does his animations (have a spell anim where he throws/tells it to go somewhere). Maybe the skull... Throw some shields or leaves on his back? Ah dannae, I'm just making stuff up at this point.

Good stuff!

 

[Skipper]

Thanks Working on it, now I´m trying to make the eye more "alive", dem animationz ... will take some time

 

[Splub]

I love it! Great work, God Bless!

 

[Skipper]

I really love the idea behind this guy. "Sighters" or 'Mediums' are a solid addition to any good Troll race (wish I'd thought of it myself. xD (well, in a way I did. But not specifically this way)). I particularly love that it's a Jungle Troll. : )

I'm a little... Weirded out by the back-rack-stuff. The giant Watcher eyeball is cool, and the skull-with-eyeballs is weird-but-cool... But both together? Seems a bit overkill. Maybe.

Nice eyepatch, cool weapon... The "Stand Victory" animation becomes problematic with the huge Watcher-eye.

Also, might want to decide Hero /or/ Unit (or, make it both); it has Dissipate anims but no hero glow. I'd suggest adding Hero Glow or modding Dissipate to be Decay & adding Decay Flesh. (actually, both (like Direfury does it) would be ideal).

~

In a perfect world, I'd say ditch the Watcher ward-back-rack; just have it floating in the air above his shoulder, peering around & floating to & fro as the guy does his animations (have a spell anim where he throws/tells it to go somewhere). Maybe the skull... Throw some shields or leaves on his back? Ah dannae, I'm just making stuff up at this point.

Good stuff!

Thanks man, used a lot of your stuffs, but for the holy mother of jesuss mother, you can´t throw your only source of vision ...

 

[Misha]

we have a little issue, the eye is in his butt while dissipating that could be fixed
and in one anim, the eye seems to clip with the tiki mask that's near it.. which was it.. where he stands up?

and you mentioned a magical tether between the troll and eye.. still don't know from where oO

 

[Kyrbi0]

Alright.

This has gotten exponentially better due to the eye being animated. Seriously, Misha, good work; that takes this model from "interesting but weird geomerge" to "totally useful geomerge". : )

I think, then, there are only a few things to worry about:

• Despite what I said above, I think your name should be first for "creators", Skipper. Misha definitely helped immensely, but you created the idea, the model's base.
• Please change the name. It's kinda funny, but stuff like that is perfect for the Tags. I think "Troll Spirit Medium" would be perfect. Or "Troll Medium"
• Speaking of Tags, those are surprisingly important, and there's really no reason not to spam them. Pretty much just throw everything in there that even barely makes sense (troll, jungle troll, spirit, medium, seer, skull, eye, floating eye, wizard, etc...), as well as some jokey stuff (blinkie the all seeing, troll eye guy, etc...).
• Not sure I'm a fan of the 4-tusk dealie, though I respect that you made that a sort of lore tie-in.
• I kinda feel like the weapon shouldn't disappear in his Attack animation (unless you wanna provide an upload). Maybe just throw some sparkly SFX on it so he can "throw" a projectile (like most of the other casters)
• He could really use some more TeamColor; concurrently, he could use less symmetry. I like the little pauldrons he's got (creative), but you could stand to remove the left-shoulder-one (opposite the eye) & replace it with a TeamColor alternative. Perhaps something wood-y.
• Still is unclear whether Hero or Unit (decay, dissipate, hero glow, etc)
• Stand Channel could use some SFX (on the eye) as well.

Seriously, though, great work. I particularly love the motions of the eye; Stand-4 and Stand-2 are amazing. : )

 

[-Grendel]

I think it'll look better with a bigger mohawk.

 

[Kyrbi0]

I think it'll look better with a bigger mohawk.

Oh you. What do you know about modding Trolls. Everyone knows all you make is zombies.

: )

//EDIT// - So, um, yeah. I'm pretty much in a bind now... I am really excited to see this guy used somewhere in mah Troll stuff, but I am literally bursting at the seams with cool Troll unit/hero models. I cannot take it anymore.

Basically, I'm really impressed with the improvements you have made. They may seem small, but they really add up to a cohesive, fleshed-out model. I am eternally grateful you didn't just stick another tiki-mask on his shoulder; the ribbon-thing is great, and the TC is now solid IMO. His new loin-cloth is neat, the eye is ever-wonderful... And best of all, you went above and beyond by throwing in the pair of bongo drums on his back! I can't tell you how keen of an idea that is; magic drums are totally a thematic slam-dunk for a tribal, Trollish medicine mon.

(Y'know, I'm gonna have to add Hero Glow myself & see if this could fit in for something... That, and remove the skull. I'm sorry, I'm still not feeling that weird, derpy-eyed skull. :< Creative, though)

 

[InfernalTater]

You've really improved this a lot overall with your updates! It's close enough to a 4/5 to get one from me.

 

[Misha]

say,.. ya planning to add any portrait speaking animations? either him or the skull

 

[Kyrbi0]

What has changed?

 

[Cheshire]

great model, i think I'm using it in a map (obv with credit). 4/5 bc the portrait is a little gimpy - looks like his head is stuck on his neck at a wierd angle and doesn't show any of his funky doodads. especially after you wrote all the lore about the 4 tusks it's kind of lacking that you left all tusks out of the portrait...

plus for noobs like me - make sure to add a 1 to the end of the portrait file path if you want it to work.

 

[Cheshire]

have an icon for your troubles - Troll medium icon

 

[raypack]

great model, i think I'm using it in a map (obv with credit). 4/5 bc the portrait is a little gimpy - looks like his head is stuck on his neck at a wierd angle and doesn't show any of his funky doodads. especially after you wrote all the lore about the 4 tusks it's kind of lacking that you left all tusks out of the portrait...

plus for noobs like me - make sure to add a 1 to the end of the portrait file path if you want it to work.

Thx! Perfect

 

[raypack]

great model, i think I'm using it in a map (obv with credit). 4/5 bc the portrait is a little gimpy - looks like his head is stuck on his neck at a wierd angle and doesn't show any of his funky doodads. especially after you wrote all the lore about the 4 tusks it's kind of lacking that you left all tusks out of the portrait...

plus for noobs like me - make sure to add a 1 to the end of the portrait file path if you want it to work.

Um I added 1 to the end of the portrait file path and portrait is still bugged for me.
I have to check if there's some unnecessary spaces but I followed your instructions and did nothing else.
Any idea what to do? On patch 1.29.2 (if that matters)