Tiered Temple of Tides (from Heaven's Fall)

[Misha]

if I was you, I would probably import Tier 3 of this naga hall onto somebody else's Naga hall

..what is that supposed to mean?

 

[Retera]

There are so many Naga town halls these days, it seems like people should maximize the awesome available to them that they use.

 

[Unregret]

Useful.

 

[Lordfuria]

it's just a building, not the tree

 

[General Frank]

Works in-game, performs appropriately and is a good addition to the model section.

 

[BaiyuGalan]

Useful

 

[K0M3T]

Err... The model shows just the first tier.. How do I make it so that I can use the 2nd or 3rd tiers? You know, since the other town halls' tiers are separate models?

 

[Hermit]

Err... The model shows just the first tier.. How do I make it so that I can use the 2nd or 3rd tiers? You know, since the other town halls' tiers are separate models?

3rd Tier Models? {Models with 3 tiers, where are the second and third tier models?}

 

[K0M3T]

3rd Tier Models? {Models with 3 tiers, where are the second and third tier models?}

Hello, I already figured out how to make use of the two other models with help. Thank you though!

 

[TheLightbringer]

Hello, I already figured out how to make use of the two other models with help. Thank you though!

Can you explain me, please?

 

[KadoviYi]

it's just a building, not the tree

To change to any other tier you need to go to building animations in unit editor and put the name of the tier "stand tier 3" something like that the animation name variates

 

[Retera]

"stand tier 3" something like that the animation name variates

The technical value is "upgrade,second" and "upgrade,third". I suggest not to take my word for it. Instead, copy it from the Keep or Castle unit.

 

[SgtWinter]

Ooh, li'l update.

 

[Misha]

hm ya know, this set has kinda grown on me with time, even more than my own 3-tiered naga hall xD

 

[Armelior_is_back]

Hum... maybe I'm just dumb and there's something I'm missing, but in-game I don't have the normal naga building birth animation even if it shows in the editor :

you know the circle+pool that's present for the 2 others in the screenshot

I don't know if it's because of the model or an editor problem (I'm using 1.27)
Do I need to change something in the object editor ?

 

[Retera]

if it's because of the model

I think it's because of the model. When I lowered it, the birth link node probably also got lowered into the ground. If you prefer a more normal naga birth, I believe you should be able to raise that birth link node back into its original position.

 

[Armelior_is_back]

How do I do that ? you mean with a modeling software ?

 

[Retera]

you mean with a modeling software ?

yeah. I made one you can use, here you go:

Retera's Model Studio

This is Retera's Model Studio v0.04 Public Beta. It is not finished! But it is something that works and is better than the Matrix Eater application, and is compatible with Patch 1.32. Retera's Model Studio is the second evolution of the Matrix Eater project. It is a standalone MDL and MDX model...

www.hiveworkshop.com

 

[Armelior_is_back]

thanks but I don't have time to start learning modeling when I have still so much work with the maps... anyway it's not a big deal

will surely be useful for the modelers here though

 

[Retera]

Ok. I updated the bundle with the change you're asking about.

For me, moving the node to be center instead of underground is this simple two clicks thing. I aspire to believe some day it will be the same for you.

But I'm not here to waste your time, I guess, I just think that it sometimes takes longer to chat about this kind of thing on a forum than to actually do it. Anyway, feel free to download the modified version now if you don't want to deal with it. (It's attached to the bundle, now named "Default Birth").

 

[Villagerino]

Is a good addition but the pearl spheres hide in the other geosets:

Spoiler

Tried to fixed it but understood that there had to be one more geoset with the pearls and more billboarded bones for them in the 2nd and 3rd tiers as they have another height, so you have to play with geoset invisibility in Magos or animate the bones in each sequence and I'm too lazy for this ><

 

[Dominus15]

what is the difference with the updated model?
Retera, can you help me with some draenei birth animations?

 

[Retera]

can you help me with some draenei birth animations?

I am capable of it but lazy, especially when it's not the weekend and the weekend is about to end. Maybe you could DM me or something, seems off topic here.


(The 1st updated model has a different portrait camera, and the second one has a different birth animation)

 

[Dominus15]

I am capable of it but lazy, especially when it's not the weekend and the weekend is about to end. Maybe you could DM me or something, seems off topic here.


(The 1st updated model has a different portrait camera, and the second one has a different birth animation)

ok I understand your conditions and you're right it would be better to send you a private message, although I'm not sure how to do that.
On the other hand, I want to mention that I tried the new model that you uploaded on my map and it does not load the birth animation of level 1 of the base, then for the level 2 and 3 updates it works correctly. I don't know if you could review that on your part to confirm that it is not an error that only happens to me

 

[Retera]

does not load the birth animation of level 1 of the base

Don't use Patch 1.29, maybe? What patch are you on? Patch 1.29 makes custom model birth animations not work for Naga, even though the ingame ones would still work. The issue was fixed in 1.30-1.31.

 

[Dominus15]

I use 1.27 and it doesn't load only the birth animation after all it's fine, I also want to mention that the first version you uploaded from the temple of the tides if the birth animation appears only something strange like someone else here had already done it I mention it, the problem is with the new model you uploaded, I don't know if anything can be done about it because I would really like to have the base of the Nagas with the default birth animations.

 

[Armelior_is_back]

yeah I also use 1.27 and in game there is no birth animation at all with the new TempleofTides_DefaultBirth.mdx, not even the tentacle, so I'll use the old one

 

[Retera]

so I'll use the old one

We should have technology information spread around so that we don't have to resort to giving up on things without discerning causes.

I believe I fixed your issue and others in a newer version of the model called "LATEST". If I'm correct and everything is fixed on that version, I'll delete the others at some point.

Is a good addition but the pearl spheres hide in the other geosets

Also fixed this on the version named "LATEST", I believe. Feel free to check it.

 

[Villagerino]

We should have technology information spread around so that we don't have to resort to giving up on things without discerning causes.

I believe I fixed your issue and others in a newer version of the model called "LATEST". If I'm correct and everything is fixed on that version, I'll delete the others at some point.

Also fixed this on the version named "LATEST", I believe. Feel free to check it.

It's nice to see that you can find time to fix these issues

 

[Armelior_is_back]

I checked in game, the animation works on the new TieredTempleofTides.mdx and the pearls aren't hidden anymore

We should have technology information spread around so that we don't have to resort to giving up on things without discerning causes.

I understand your point of view but I'm sure learning how models work would take many hours and and I don't really need it : if it's to change little details like this I don't care that much, and if it's more than details Iwould have to know how to model myself - also now everyone can have the fixed version

 

[Deathkok]

Good Work i add you credits in my map