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*Facepalms.*
I guess it's useless to reason with you.
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The Anunnaki, Nubiru, The Illuminatti, 2012 !! Whats going on ?!
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I guess it's useless to reason with you.
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This was stated in the Conservapedia thread but I believe with a slight modification it will find its place here as well:
FYI, like Conservapedia, no one here supports you either.
FYI, like Conservapedia, no one here supports you either.
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I don't believe in 2012, as Nibiru was meant to collide with us in 2003. As far as I can tell, we're still here...
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'Tis all an illusion. A twisted image, as it were.
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At this point I'd prefer if an asteroid crashed on Earth. Humanity doesn't deserve to go on if people actually believe this crap.
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Well im just throwing this thoery at you all anyway. Why argue with a bunch of people. Einstein and Galileo also faced the same scrutiny and embarresment many years ago.
If none of you are willing to have open minds to any new theories, then so be it. Let you be you and believe what you want to believe and call names if you want to call names. In the end, it wont even matter, because fact is fact. The entire scientific method is based off of observation. Which in essence is reletive to the eyes of the beholder, in which makeing our observation have a slight bias. So then i must ask. Is all of our experiments not based on assumptions ? Is it not that these assumptions lead to questions which then lead to experimentation which leads to explaination ? If this theory doesnt even go past the gate of Assumption and straight to ridicule, then how can we finnaly put our experiments to the test. If noone is willing to figure it out, then perhaps fact will always remain fiction until it smacks you in the face.
With that being said, I share my opinion with you all only to inform you of whats going around and the new ideas that should be talked about. I do not sit idle and make fun of " the Non-believers" In fact im all about science and the study of physics. Such a topic intrigued me because there was many pieces of puzzles which did not fit in the origin of mankind nor the reason why our beliefs are the way it is. And if im to be ridiculed for delivering such a view to you close minded people, then so be it. Like einstein once said "A person starts to live when he can live outside himself." Think outside the box people.
If none of you are willing to have open minds to any new theories, then so be it. Let you be you and believe what you want to believe and call names if you want to call names. In the end, it wont even matter, because fact is fact. The entire scientific method is based off of observation. Which in essence is reletive to the eyes of the beholder, in which makeing our observation have a slight bias. So then i must ask. Is all of our experiments not based on assumptions ? Is it not that these assumptions lead to questions which then lead to experimentation which leads to explaination ? If this theory doesnt even go past the gate of Assumption and straight to ridicule, then how can we finnaly put our experiments to the test. If noone is willing to figure it out, then perhaps fact will always remain fiction until it smacks you in the face.
With that being said, I share my opinion with you all only to inform you of whats going around and the new ideas that should be talked about. I do not sit idle and make fun of " the Non-believers" In fact im all about science and the study of physics. Such a topic intrigued me because there was many pieces of puzzles which did not fit in the origin of mankind nor the reason why our beliefs are the way it is. And if im to be ridiculed for delivering such a view to you close minded people, then so be it. Like einstein once said "A person starts to live when he can live outside himself." Think outside the box people.
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You're comparing yourself to two of the greatest men who ever lived.
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First, you are using equivocation: you use 'theory' because in casual speak your pile of shit is a 'theory', but attempt to make it sound like you are presenting a scientific theory, which is a different thing entirely.
Second, you are suggesting the lack of evidence for something, or "evidence" which lacks support itself (some old culture said so... I think, so therefore x) supports your cause by claiming a conspiracy.
Third, you are attempting to martyr yourself when people ridicule you for being stupid.
Fourth, open mindedness does not mean irrationally accepting every new bullshit flung your way. It means willingness to reconsider your ideas in the face of strong evidence to the contrary.
For every Einstein or Galileo that was ridiculed there were a million idiots.
EDIT: I think the real issue here, which has not been addressed to my knowledge, is that the means but not the end is what is important. Somebody who dogmatically believes that the earth is round or that evolution is true regardless of evidence is just as bad as somebody who believes that the earth is flat or that creationism is true for the same reasons. If hell freezes over and the OP is right, that will not make him any better, the next 'Galileo' or what have you, because far from presenting a useful argument he is presenting a bunch of conspiracy theory crap that relies more on lack of evidence ("it's a massive coverup") than evidence itself. Any kook can be right by random luck, especially if they make their "theory" so broad (for example, the date seems to be totally up to debate), but it is not useful to the scientific community simply because it is neither testable nor grounded in rational argument.
Second, you are suggesting the lack of evidence for something, or "evidence" which lacks support itself (some old culture said so... I think, so therefore x) supports your cause by claiming a conspiracy.
Third, you are attempting to martyr yourself when people ridicule you for being stupid.
Fourth, open mindedness does not mean irrationally accepting every new bullshit flung your way. It means willingness to reconsider your ideas in the face of strong evidence to the contrary.
For every Einstein or Galileo that was ridiculed there were a million idiots.
EDIT: I think the real issue here, which has not been addressed to my knowledge, is that the means but not the end is what is important. Somebody who dogmatically believes that the earth is round or that evolution is true regardless of evidence is just as bad as somebody who believes that the earth is flat or that creationism is true for the same reasons. If hell freezes over and the OP is right, that will not make him any better, the next 'Galileo' or what have you, because far from presenting a useful argument he is presenting a bunch of conspiracy theory crap that relies more on lack of evidence ("it's a massive coverup") than evidence itself. Any kook can be right by random luck, especially if they make their "theory" so broad (for example, the date seems to be totally up to debate), but it is not useful to the scientific community simply because it is neither testable nor grounded in rational argument.
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It's hard to tell which is 10th planet. Planets after Neptune have highly elliptical orbits, so it depends on which time you mean 10th planet. There can't be life, as such planets don't receive sufficient energy from Sun and they are too small to support any intelligent life. Too small to affect Earth either, transneptunian object are much smaller that our moon, so significant damage can be done only if crashing on Earth, which is unlikely, as gas giants would already capture them and get a new moon.
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I'm not saying assuming is the wrong path to go in order to prove something, I'm just saying you have to prove it before you try to frighten people.
People who propose significantly unexpected ideas that would change our reality completely, are always ridiculed, and albeit there have been cases where these people were right, there has been numerous exceptions (or perhaps more accurate: being right is the exception). Thus being ridiculed is far from proof that you're right after all.
People who propose significantly unexpected ideas that would change our reality completely, are always ridiculed, and albeit there have been cases where these people were right, there has been numerous exceptions (or perhaps more accurate: being right is the exception). Thus being ridiculed is far from proof that you're right after all.
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that made me LOL i love that guy.
but WTH ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1o&feature=watch_response_rev
thats a scarey doomsday prophecy, accredited by Tyson. Perhaps thats what the sumerians meant xD
but WTH ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaW4Ol3_M1o&feature=watch_response_rev
thats a scarey doomsday prophecy, accredited by Tyson. Perhaps thats what the sumerians meant xD
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Prophecy wouldn't be the word I'd use, he basically described the trijectory and probable outcomes of a discovered asteroid that would be the largest object humanity has ever seen come close enough to the Earth to become threatening. Did Sumerians predict this? People always have their own interpretations of findings, some more based on scientifically methodical processes and others based on... whatever you're basing yours on, though what is complicated is that you went WTH to Poots link and linked Neil's earlier video as if he was refuting himself. If you thought he was, he likely wasn't, as something as devastatingly huge as Planet X and the asteroid in question in 2008 are vastly different in terms of mainly size and date of probable impact. It's not the fact that you believe this that aggrivates me, but its the fact that you present it as a fact, people wouldn't be so rude and ridiculing of you if you hadn't done that, because when you present what you believe as a fact, you have to back it up with tangible and concrete evidence of legitimacy. To be honest this thread would have gone much more smoothly if you had approached an inquiry about it from a hypothetical and opinonative point of view, rather than "this is fact, its going to happen, this culture/group/person said so, what do you think?" But thats simply how I feel on a personal level about this thread and your statements.
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Or maybe the Sumerians are just... wrong, like every other civilization ever.
Can't you accept that?
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Also, you clearly have no idea what the difference between science and religion is.
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i dont know why everyone thinks im taking this to an extremist level of thinking, its not like im gonna go all Jihad because of the sumerians.
Darkness, there is no need to be aggravated either, its just a forum, another idea.
and purple, simply i was joking. I know that its not a prophecy and as he explained the window of oppertunity is small in which we may be hit.
And purple, i clearly know the difference between all religions and their origins. I myself am Atheist. I dont believe in gods either until i see them for myself. And you telling me what i do and do not know is disrespectful and does not match ur level of intelligence. Be more mature on these subjects man you dont have to take every word i say to be propaganda.
and once again for darkness if you read my first post, i wrote : " To start of my opinion "
Its not like i can accredit the sources i gave, Its an off topic forum and my objective was to know what you guys think about this and now i know. So really my goal is complete. =p
Darkness, there is no need to be aggravated either, its just a forum, another idea.
and purple, simply i was joking. I know that its not a prophecy and as he explained the window of oppertunity is small in which we may be hit.
And purple, i clearly know the difference between all religions and their origins. I myself am Atheist. I dont believe in gods either until i see them for myself. And you telling me what i do and do not know is disrespectful and does not match ur level of intelligence. Be more mature on these subjects man you dont have to take every word i say to be propaganda.
and once again for darkness if you read my first post, i wrote : " To start of my opinion "
Its not like i can accredit the sources i gave, Its an off topic forum and my objective was to know what you guys think about this and now i know. So really my goal is complete. =p
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Being an atheist doesn't automatically make you smart, just like being religious does not automatically make you stupid. Intelligence is rather independent of this.
These conspiracy theories are akin to religion (blind belief, fallacy-ridden argument, and desperate and poor attempts at justification are shared between the two), or worse because you weren't brainwashed into them in the first place.
These conspiracy theories are akin to religion (blind belief, fallacy-ridden argument, and desperate and poor attempts at justification are shared between the two), or worse because you weren't brainwashed into them in the first place.
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The cake is not a lie, but this is... Sorry.
Proof for cake is not a lie?: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/03/31/Let-There-Be-Cake.aspx
Proof for cake is not a lie?: http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2010/03/31/Let-There-Be-Cake.aspx
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intelligence is not about what you know. Its about what you learn
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... and you know things by learning them. What the fuck are you on about?
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It's a mixture of what you know and how you learn, not what you "learn".
Making up stuff doesn't make you smart.
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All things said before, on TV, Internet, etc. are a complete bullsh*t
But, I do believe something will happen in 2012, but unfortunely, nobody can tell me/us what.
But, I do believe something will happen in 2012, but unfortunely, nobody can tell me/us what.
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I can, the planets will align, and all proponents of a 2012 doomsday will be vastly disappointed.
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A transit of Venus happens that year. I must not miss it.
Yay for solar eclipse which isn't an eclipse.
Yay for solar eclipse which isn't an eclipse.
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Heres what I think, If everyone thinks the end of the world will be in 2012 and everyone goes rioting, then well yes the end of the world will happen.
If no one believes in it, no one will riot therefore the world will not end because we all went crazy, raping women, young children, killing innocents, old people, etc.
So I say IT'S ALL BULLSHIT
Everyone stay calm in 2012 and if someone tries to kill you just kill them and yeah
Keep yourself alive until you die of old age
If no one believes in it, no one will riot therefore the world will not end because we all went crazy, raping women, young children, killing innocents, old people, etc.
So I say IT'S ALL BULLSHIT
Everyone stay calm in 2012 and if someone tries to kill you just kill them and yeah
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