T.S.O.F -Terran Special Operation Force

[Craka_J]

I'm very sure that skin is on Hive's resources in the skins section. If not, then it's an old skin from Wc3sear.ch
~Craka_J

 

[Tomura]

Every Skin is made by me. None of them are released. You can contact me if you want one.

The Models are from Talon the mages konstrukt pack. And I also got some not released Konstrukt Models.
I also edited the Konstrukt Marine Animations for FPS-View.
The RocketLauncher and breaking glass Model are made by me.


Ok, some gameplay information:

You will play the role of the Leader of TSOF Omega Squad. You can Control your unit with the arrowkeys. Youn don't really have to be good at aiming, the shootingsystem is pretty torlerant.

Controls:
Arrow Keys = Movement

Q = Prone
W = Attack (primary)
E = Secondary Attackmode
R = Reload

A = Squad Manegment (You can select members, who should or shouldn't react to quick-Commands(F1-F3) and you can command a member to use specific abilities)
S = Squad-Command-Menu (Complex Commands)
D = Switch Viewmode (Ego <-> 3rd Person)
F = Interact (Pick up items, open door, use Computer, etc)

Z,X,C,V (for Germans it would be Y,X,C,V)= Heroabilities

F1 = Offensive Formation
F2 = Defensive Formation
F3 = Hold Position

You can choose 3 abilities for your Character at the beginning of the game
The other ability will be determines by the armor.

Before every Mission you can "buy" items and change your armor. But be aware that TSOF just gives you and your Squad onlyan specific budget, determined by the result of the previos mission. The better you are, the more you can buy.
Of course it would be best to have the right equipment for the mission (when you know it's dark you can buy nightvision or if you don't have much money just a flashlight attachment). But be also perpared for unexpected turns.

There will be 4 different armors and 8 weapons to buy (there will be more in the game, because you can pick up weapons from dead enemies) and some other stuff like grenades, nightvision, turrets, etc

You can give simple commands to your Squad (F1-F3) or more complex Commands by placing waypoints (there will be different ones for different kinds of behavior)

....
I'm tired of writing.... I'll post some details about the spells later

And because there seems to be quite a lot of interested people in the international Mapping community, I'll make a englisch version of the TSOF page.

 

[HeretoDLstuff]

Wow, the map looks great!! @_@ +rep..

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Wow,you made all the skins/models on your map on your own?You are great!How much are you working on this?

 

[Tomura]

Wow,you made all the skins/models on your map on your own?You are great!How much are you working on this?

Of course Tilesets and Skins for Custom Doodads are not included.
But fadefilters, most Unit Skins(especially Marines) and the Interface(it's still in WiP) were made by me.


I'm making the Concept, Skins and Triggers and Models if necessary (I don't really like modelling...it takes so much time...). And all the Landscape was also made by me.
There is also 54T4NmI5T. He is making Triggers and Scripts like me.
And recently Coldgamer joined the "team". He's our Landscaper, so that I have more time for Triggers and Skins

They are all from the German Mapping Comunity of inWarcraft so you probably won't know them.
There's also one guy who wants to join as a landscaper, but I'm still not convinced that he's good enough (and he criticized my landscapes quite hard T_T)

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Oh,and something more.POST some pictures of that awesome FPS!

 

[Craka_J]

You should try to get "Corexx" into your terraining department. He's god at terraining, and my personal favorite terrainer. But he's probably too busy with his project "Neratia RPG" at inWarcraft.de, but I think it would be worth asking.
~Craka_J

 

[iron_warrior]

I still don't fully follow. Is the "aiming" system static, like GoldenEye for N64, where you just move and the gun follows you, or can you rotate where the gun is pointing?

 

[Craka_J]

Yeah, how do you turn? Or does Left and Right turn instead of being used as strafing keys?
~Craka_J

 

[HatoZILLA]

i say that a and d should be used as strafing, not what they are used for now.

 

[Tomura]

left and right are for turning.
There is a Ability you can choose, which allows you to lock a target and also to strafe. A bit like in Metroid Prime.

 

[Craka_J]

left and right are for turning.
There is a Ability you can choose, which allows you to lock a target and also to strafe. A bit like in Metroid Prime.

That sounds pretty cool. I guess it'll be best to judge how well it works and how easy it is to use when the game is actually released and playable, that way I can actually provide a truthful answer/opinion.

Also, I don't think I've asked this yet but will there be a closed beta soon or open beta? If so, I'd like to apply to be one. I would obviously report all bugs and so on if I had discovered any.
~Craka_J

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

A system like this would have lots of bugs.Have you found any?

 

[FamousPker49]

This map looks great, you should keep up the great work, and like Craka_J, I would love to be a beta tester of this map.

 

[Craka_J]

The most common bug people come across in FPS maps that deal with keyboard movement is when a player strikes the turning keys, the camera or unit turns too much and the function gets glitched pretty bad and will happen repeadidly until the map has been restarted or if you added a smart script that debugs things when a player types -debug or something like that.

Another problem with FPS maps is that the crosshair is almost never accurate and shots fired miss a lot or deal no damage. If you enabled some sort of genious idea to make arrows aim and WASD keys to move, then the crosshair can be a lot more useful and accurate/efficient.
~Craka_J

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

Yeah.That's some problems that might happen.We will see in the Beta.

 

[Craka_J]

How about a gameplay video, oh buddy ol' pal?
~Craka_J

 

[Gausslander]

Even I, the procrastinator, would like to test out your BETA. If there is such a thing coming out, I'd be glad to point out obvious flaws and put in grammar checks when needed.

 

[Craka_J]

Same here. I think I'm very good with spelling and grammar.
~Craka_J

 

[Tomura]

Hehe thank you all.
Of course you will be able to test a beta version.
I will also need (not now, but in the later Progress) some Voiceactors

I got DarkEvilArthas as a new member.

I'd really like to make a gameplay trailer, but there are some scenes I want to have in it. And secondly, I don't really know how to make an video or which programms I have to use. Maybe you would be able to help me with that.

 

[matyko]

I suggest FRAPS, and I'll gladly voice act, or get someone else to do it.
Question is:
What kind of voices do you need? ^^

 

[Gausslander]

Hehe thank you all.
Of course you will be able to test a beta version.
I will also need (not now, but in the later Progress) some Voiceactors

I got DarkEvilArthas as a new member.

I'd really like to make a gameplay trailer, but there are some scenes I want to have in it. And secondly, I don't really know how to make an video or which programms I have to use. Maybe you would be able to help me with that.

I'm the experienced voice actor around here. (or divorced unemployed actor.) I'd be glad to help where help is needed.

 

[Craka_J]

I'd apply to be a voice-actor. But then again, I'm not so good with a marine voice or radio-like voice.
~Craka_J

 

[iron_warrior]

I suppose if you needed a voice actor I could help out. I use Adobe Audition to edit the voices, too. If you have any lines you'd want done you could post 'em and I could do a demo.

Good luck on your map!

 

[HatoZILLA]

i would ask to help with voice except my mic makes me sound like im 7 O.O

 

[UchihaSasuke.gr]

I would like to see some more screenshots.

 

[Craka_J]

Screenshots are awesome. Trailer/Teaser kills them all.
~Craka_J

 

[DoOs_101]

This map is a killer. Trailer/Teaser will not be easy to handle since it takes time to make one and can disintegrate the progress.

P.S. I wonder why so many maps have 4 letters in their name... GEAR, DOTA, NOTD, KOTR, LOTR...

 

[matyko]

its not long, and, if the right sylables are used, they can really get marked into someones brain...

 

[Supermj]

There are probly 4 leters because in clans you can only have 4 letters as your abbriviation.

 

[Chaos Overlord]

I am ChaosOverlord and I support this message!

"The project of T.S.O.F. is part of a greater movement, one of intense mapping that seems to be reviving the communities of WC3, and pulling those from the darkness of WoW back to the light of fully moddable RTS game. May we pray for those who have not yet found the light again, and that these projects that have been started are only the first in a long train of the Golden Age of Mapping."

 

[Craka_J]

Will jumping, crouching, strafing, crawling, and climbing be included in this campaign?
~Craka_J

 

[Chaos Overlord]

Oohh question time? Okay I got a few:

Will the maps be just a big passage way that you have to fight through with no strategy at all, like Call of Duty where you just shoot a lot and hop eyou dont die, or more strategically inclined such as Gears of War?

Will there be small... side quests I want to say, but thats really not the right word, but wahtever. Side quests that you can do? Like get a code after killing a certain guy then going to a door that most people wont find because they are too busy just killing everything and running through? Or recover certain items to get more cash to start the next mission?

 

[Tomura]

I want the Campaign to be more tactical. Because it's Warcraft I can't focus the gameplay on action.
And I also try to make multiple passages (I don't really know if my terrainer got that). So if you have the right equipment you can open locked doors or something like that to go an easier passage, without wasting Bullets for Enemies. But you just have 6 Inventory slots so you have to have priorities. You have to think of How many and whick type of weapon you need (mellee, long range, etc), if you need remotes for destroying doors, if you need Devices to hack Computers for getting codes, Nightvision for extremly dark areas, Grenades for fighting, Meds, Stimpacks, etc

So you even have to think of which items you need.
The second Problem would be the question, wether you can afford them or not.

There will be some side quests. Sometimes. Or at least I plan to make some.
Some will serve to open easier passages. Some will serve to increase the amound of cash you get for the next mission.


There will just be crawling. Jumping would just be usefull when the gameplay would be focused on action. Crouching is not included, just because the Konstrukt Marines don't have an animation for that. Climbing would also look ridiculous without an animation.
Strafing is included with an special spell.

 

[Gausslander]

I love that idea. Will you have Zerg or Protoss enemies in the campaign? Or will there be some custom Terran units to spice up gameplay?

 

[Tomura]

There will be Zergs.
But the mainenemy is a terran organization working against the UED. So there will be custom terran units. The Konstruktpack has 4 unittypes. And I would be able to make some Skins. And the 4 units could also have variations through weapons. I'm still hoping abriko will release acathla Mission 2 pack. But he said he would give me models when he is be sure this project won't die.

 

[Craka_J]

To make it look like they're climbing a ladder, make them prone and look like their standing. Then put them on a ladder doodad or whatever and play the crawling animation while they hover up/down. That's a good way to make it look less rhetorical.
~Craka_J

 

[Yabooer]

ooo nice craka also I'd like to add an idea it would be very awesome if you could add different ways like either go through a forward left or right tunnel. And as you go through that tunnel you choosing your own path and the path you take ends the game in a different way or that path takes you to a different ultimate weapon or different bosses.
-Yabooer

 

[Craka_J]

And about the crawling animation: Can't you just animate it youself since you said you have enough skill to animate and models?
~Craka_J

 

[Tomura]

I would have to import the model in gmax. But the problem is there is no importer for gmax, that is able to import bones and animations correctly. So adding animations to an existing model in gmax is out of question.
If there is a importer which would be able to import everything correctly, then please tell me which.

I made a Walk-Backwards animation but that was in the text editor (kinda like copiing the animation but in the opposite order). But making a whole new animation for a model in the text editor would be too much work.


But your idea for climbing is great. Thank you

 

[iron_warrior]

I'm not sure about this, but I think 3ds Max 5 is the only modeling program that can import models with full animations. I'm almost positive ms3d cannot, either.

 

[DoOs_101]

I wish these kinds of mod can appeal like dota did before. I'm making a similar mod like this however stalled. I think the next generation of wc3 maps will no longer be old lores but FPS, shooting type games that attracts alot of gamers.

 

[perplex2112]

i think that's opposite, FPS gaming in WC3 will always be lacking but the more popular AOS and lore-oriented maps are just getting larger thanks to warsoc... i think the future of WC3 mapping is here, not there

 

[Craka_J]

More fun questions:

• Custom UI skin?
• Custom music?
• Custom sounds?
• Multiplayer version someday?
• Filesize so far?
• Custom loadingscreen(s)?
• Hijackable vehicles?
• What weapons will be included?
• What is the primary objective and storyline for you and your squadrant?

~Craka_J

 

[iron_warrior]

More fun questions:

• Custom UI skin?
• Custom music?
• Custom sounds?
• Multiplayer version someday?
• Filesize so far?
• Custom loadingscreen(s)?
• Hijackable vehicles?
• What weapons will be included?
• What is the primary objective and storyline for you and your squadrant?

~Craka_J

Lemme help y'out there...

- Yes, there's a screeny with it in there.

...

Actually, that's the only one I know. Hope he cruises on up here to answer them...would be cool to be able to enter-exit vehicles.

 

[Craka_J]

What question were you answering? o.0
~Craka_J

 

[4rankie]

This map looks great man, I love the terrain and the icons, this map has super potential, If you make this map to the final point I guarrenty this map will be a big hit. Keep up the excellent work. and I would love to beta test this for you .

~4rankie~

 

[Tomura]

i think that's opposite, FPS gaming in WC3 will always be lacking but the more popular AOS and lore-oriented maps are just getting larger thanks to warsoc... i think the future of WC3 mapping is here, not there

I think so.
But it's more fun to try to make some kind of FPS for Warcraft than making an AoS. Of course it won't be like a perfect fps, but it could also be fun and it would be something different, compared to all those AoSs, Footys, HeroArenas or TDs

More fun questions:

• Custom UI skin?
• Custom music?
• Custom sounds?
• Multiplayer version someday?
• Filesize so far?
• Custom loadingscreen(s)?
• Hijackable vehicles?
• What weapons will be included?
• What is the primary objective and storyline for you and your squadrant?

~Craka_J

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Dunno. Maybe I could make a Multiplayer version of some essential Scripts. And some other guys could make another Multiplayer part with a parrallel story.
5. Dunno how big the final version will be. It's 15MB now. But the file size will increase, although there are some files I don't need
6. No. There was this kind of ability in SCBF but TSOF doesn't support that.
7. Assaultrifles (3), SMGs(2), Shotguns(3), Machineguns(1) &Miniguns(2), Rocketlauncher(1), Flamer(1), Sniper(1)
and there are some grenades, mines, turrets

8. Hmm I don't know how much I should say.
In the Introduction it is said that you and your Squad are sent into a abandoned space station.
Your objective is to find out what happened, which organization this space station belonged to and if they were hostile towards the UED what kind of technology they researched in that station. (the rest is hidden, because I don't know how much I should spoil)

Spoiler

You soon find out that the people in that station were massacered, but there are no traces about who did that. There are only victims of the same group.
So your main Objective through the first half of the campaign will be to find out who did that by following the traces that are left, but that's not as easy as it is said...

There will be 5 Missions. Each mission will have multiple maps (Mission 1 e.g. 5 Maps, Mission2 has 2 Maps)

 

[Craka_J]

There will be 5 Missions. Each mission will have multiple maps (Mission 1 e.g. 5 Maps, Mission2 has 2 Maps)

Not including cinematic maps, right?
~Craka_J

 

[Tomura]

Not including cinematic maps, right?
~Craka_J

right
the Training-Mission(1Map) is not includet, too.

I think there won't be complete Cinematic Maps exept for the intro, ending and credits maybe. There will of course be enough short cinematics during gameplay, like when something important happened.