17:49, 15th Jul 2011
I read the most I could (I was also in speak, so note that I had less time to read stuff).2 spells? I see you haven't read anything either.
OH yeah, it was really my intention to hover over the ARMOR icon. That's the first reaction I have in EVERY game!the tutorial section (which can be found where you'd usually find the armor information)
How should I know it's a shield? Where does it say that? And why does my health increase then? And I can't do anything within those 2 seconds, while otherwise you can just walk away from most spells. The shield is mostly useless.The nature-guy's special is a 2-second shield. After 2 seconds, he only loses the shield
Oh yeah, make ME feel bad. I put all the blame on YOU for this.I feel bad about you not reading all of the descriptions, although the all the text I added to the game was pretty short.
The map loads extremely fast as well, so I couldn't even get past the first sentence of the second paragraph before loading ended (maybe because of speak, I do not know).me said:I was also in speak, so note that I had less time to read stuff
My friend. What, you're going to tell me he's just a dumbass? You're going to tell me he shouldn't be playing that game? Is that it?Nobody's forced to 'press any key to continue' before they've finished reading.
You're being absolutely idiotic here, excuse the language.You also have to 'find' the quests tab
I can, but why would I? As far as I knew, it just contained the standard armor values...you simply leave the cursor on the small orb. Can't do that with the help of the quests tab, can you?
No. Just no. With this point of view, you will get nowhere.If I lose any players, then I lose them because there some dumbasses
I wanted to play the game with a friend, actually. It's the only person I ever play with on b.net, so I know him pretty well. But no, I did not like the game, and this might be because you decided that you should treat us all like we can read your mind.this is a short game for people who know each other
Then go and adjust your point of view to actually ACCEPT what other people say.I need some other perspectives as well to make it better.
Oh, come on! Stop whining. What you were saying is just idiotic, and that hasn't got anything to do with the person himself. Everyone says idiotic things, you're one of them.You're hilarious. I see it doesn't matter what I say, you're understanding it your way. Actually I never called you or your friend a dumbass, it's you who called me idiotic and whatever.
I know you weren't, you said that "initially [...] there are quests there, and not descriptions". But even Blizzard uses that tab to display information, so what exactly do you mean with "Initially"? The exact same year that Warcraft was released? Because anything after that, the quest tab has been used to display (mostly) information about the map.I wasn't talking about quests in a fighting game either. I just said that in Warcraft, initially there are quests under that menu.
I couldn't see that, because I cannot play it in Single Player. And I cannot view the tutorial unless the game starts. A flaw you didn't even try to defend.What do you mean I didn't rename armor? I did rename it, it says 'tutorial'.
Who says I didn't understand that? I'm sorry, but why do I HAVE to watch the video in order to know how the map works?Also, you don't seem to understand that the video also describes that the tutorial replaces the armor.
Oh, but I do have my reasons. I even told you the reason I do so, and you said it was no problem that I did. So really, what was your point again?I am also accepting what other people say. Haven't you noticed? I've mentioned several things that I've started working on since you mentioned the problems. I even said thanks, but you just keep talking to me in that harsh language without reason.
Then what are you gaining here? Do you really think that your "armor tutorial" is so much better and easier?You're simply not getting a word there.
Extremely short loading time, in speak (because it's mean for people who already know each other), nobody looks at the armor value.Don't tell me that if it tells you that there is a tutorial close to the champion's portrait, you won't be able to find a text that also says tutorial. That'd be rather stupid.
Indeed, but you are living in an idealistic world where everyone finishes reading the loading screen before playing. Wake up, this isn't that world!Like I said earlier. The game won't start if you don't 'press any key to continue'.
When your map has a very short loading time, don't put too much on it.
I couldn't read the loading screen in the time I was given...Do not type a very long text that the player cannot read in the time he has.
always make sure you have a little 'break' between you finishing reading the description and the game starting
But is IS an excuse. Read above about the idealistic world you're living in.no, fast loading is not an excuse, if you don't press a key, it won't disappear.
Because the movement was sloppy, we got bored throughout the fight because everything happened so slow (attacking takes long, you cannot attack while jumping, spell casting takes long).Also, how come your friend decided that the replay value is too low after that single game? There were 6 different champions at that time, and he only tried one. He also didn't have a clue there is an S2 ability, not only S1. Also, he picked the only character that damages itself. Like I said, you need to get used to the game, you need to master your champion.
*ahem* HE didn't want to give it a second try. And since I only play with him on b.net, I didn't really have much choice, did I?I totally accept that you guys don't want to give the map a second try.
The problem here is, that it is "friendly fire"-kind of damage, not "at the cost of X% of your HP, do spell"-kind of damage, which is a huge difference.This isn't the only game where a character is using abilities at the cost of its own life...
If you're not guiding new players so everything is laid out for them, they won't be able to play it correctly. That's exactly what happened.If you're not following the advise the map gives you, you won't be able to play it correctly as a new player. That's exactly what happened.
If I'm living in an idealistic world where people finish reading the loading screen, then you're living in an idealistic world where everybody puts every single description under the quests tab. I'm refusing to follow the herd.if I DID see text, I read it
This hasn't got anything to do with 'the herd'. I, for one, do things my own way: I don't listen to popular music, I don't do things that most people do and I certainly don't give in to 'the herd', in fact: I reject them. If you knew me in real-life, you would know that. You would know that I go against the flock, against the others.you're living in an idealistic world where everybody puts every single description under the quests tab. I'm refusing to follow the herd.
Who said I didn't accept that? Where did I say that it is NOT part of the map? What does this even prove?Loading screen or not, it is a part of the map whether you want to accept it or not.
You did your part? You are the mapper! I played the map as a 'generic player', and it appeared to me that you did NOT do your part! Or at the very least, you didn't do a good job.The text is also really short. I added the points players need to follow, I did my part, it's up to the people to either read and follow them or say that the map sucks and just abandon it.
That's not what I said either, nor is it "what it comes down to". Your way of thinking is too narrow, too shallow.If the reason for my map being rejected is people not willing to read a short introduction (clearly that's the case, as nobody's forced to skip it), then something's really wrong.
It is a part of the map, but there are ranges of importance as well.If the loading screen is as much a part of the map as the fighting itself.
You're still upset about that? You still cannot get your mind over the fact that I pressed any key when the game told me to do so?I still don't understand why you aren't reading it.
The descriptions are there for people who like to read it. It's always nice to have nice descriptions available. Where did I say that your loading screen should not contain the information about the tutorial? You just added some useless information as well and placed the most important info at the end, which has the lowest chance of players actually reading it.I, for one, wouldn't want to waste my time at the character selection. That could even make me think 'oh wow, why did that dude add descriptions of champions?
Why not? It's interesting.And wow, let's not talk about the way of thinking.
You seem to be forgetting that the loading screen doesn't contain the tutorial itself, only its location. So loading screen or not, the tutorial can still be seen when you want to 'open' it. It's quite practical as well, as you don't even have to 'close' it.A quest-tab can be reopened as many times as you want, whenever you want
I don't see why it would be interesting to watch you judge me without knowing anything about me. I also don't understand why you share that with me when it is 'propably incorrect', and anyway, what does all this have to do with the map?Why not? It's interesting.
And that part is just a silly attempt to make me look bad. Never liked that kind of attitude. I'm the only one who knows what I am thinking."oooh, then I'm not part of 'the herd', yeah! I'm a revolutionary!"
Without having read that sentence, I never would have guessed a tutorial could be in such a concealed location. So I HAD to read the loading screen to find the tutorial.You seem to be forgetting that the loading screen doesn't contain the tutorial itself, only its location. So loading screen or not, the tutorial can still be seen when you want to 'open' it. It's quite practical as well, as you don't even have to 'close' it.
I wasn't judging you! You must be out of your mind to think that I was actually judging you!I don't see why it would be interesting to watch you judge me without knowing anything about me. I also don't understand why you share that with me when it is 'propably incorrect', and anyway, what does all this have to do with the map?
Awh, that wasn't really my point... It's not a silly attempt at anything, it is how you come across to me. I never said you were anything like that, I even said you weren't like that actually. Did you read that part? The part where I said that you probably weren't like that?And that part is just a silly attempt to make me look bad. Never liked that kind of attitude. I'm the only one who knows what I am thinking.