Sight Question and Making Units unselectable

[Flux]

I got two questions:

1. Is it possible to show an isolated unit (with its HP bar being visible if the camera is moved to that unit's location) but I need that unit to have no vision.

2. How can I make buildings unselectable without using 'Aloc' and still having its minimap icon still shown. I tried add 'Aloc' and ShowUnit(u, true) but the minimap icon disappear.

 

[SAUS]

1. I don't know if this is possible. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

2. You could have a no-model dummy unit that has the icon underneath it. Without a model, it is unselectable and shows no health bar iirc (though you could make it invulnerable if it does show up - pretty sure that hides it).

 

[Flux]

1. I don't know if this is possible. What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

2. You could have a no-model dummy unit that has the icon underneath it. Without a model, it is unselectable and shows no health bar iirc (though you could make it invulnerable if it does show up - pretty sure that hides it).

1. I want a unit to be visible wherever it is but I need that unit to have no vision.

2. Weird, I tried that earlier but now it works. #2 is solved.

 

[SAUS]

Is it an ally to players? You could trigger the vision for the players if they are not allied. Otherwise, floating text shows up in fog of war iirc.

 

[Flux]

Is it an ally to players? You could trigger the vision for the players if they are not allied. Otherwise, floating text shows up in fog of war iirc.

No it is your own unit. Floating Text would not work because I need the unit to be visible (you can click it, look at its stat, hp, mana, abilities) but I also need it to have no vision.

 

[SAUS]

Hmmm as far as I know, that is not possible. You could have some way to allow the player to select it (they do something and it selects this unit via triggers) and then they can hotkey it or something, but I don't think you can make it clickable through the fog of war.

 

[Flux]

Hmmm as far as I know, that is not possible. You could have some way to allow the player to select it (they do something and it selects this unit via triggers) and then they can hotkey it or something, but I don't think you can make it clickable through the fog of war.

Yeah I doubt it was possible. Still maybe it is, I don't know.. That is why I asked if it was possible.

If you play Dota 2, Bloodseeker has an ability that allows him to see Heroes with very low HP as well as the Sentry Wards in Dota 2 has no vision but it is still visible.

 

[SAUS]

Bloodseeker's ability can be done by making dummy units that move to the victim's location. It works because the units they follow are enemies, so they don't change the vision of the enemy (the unit that has vision on them).

Sentry wards do have vision, don't they? I thought it was just very short. Either way, the detection ability has its own separate range that's not tied to actual vision range.

 

[Flux]

However, using dummies with short vision allows you to see what is nearby to the detected very low hp by bloodseeker. Example, if the very low hp hero collides with another hero while walking, you will be able to see that other hero since it is within the dummy unit vision and I don't want that.