save system ?

[Jeremy0352]

Greetings,
I've been making my new TD map and trying to make this system which is
when u won my TD map 1 time, u would get a certain point and u paly my td map next time, u can load the info(point) of ur previous game
and u get a nick name next to ur battle net ID.
For example, Player named MonkeyKing won my map 10 times and on its 11th time of playing this map, he loaded his previous data and he be shown as [Grand Master] MonkeyKing.

I found some RPG based save and load or codeless tools.. but seems they don't work for TD maps. am i wrong ?

plz help

 

[Cheshire]

I believe the links I posted here will help you. basically "caching" lets you save persistent data.

Save and load heroes

Hi everyone! I need help with save and load trigger for heroes. I have four heroes in my campaign and I can’t understand how to load them all in the next chapter of the campaign:(

www.hiveworkshop.com

 

[Avahor]

Save and load or codeless tools should work for any kind of map you want to keep data.
You need to learn the teory back the tool and full use of arrays and indexes.
At the end save codes stores mainly numbers, integer numbers, those can be amounts of materials or indexes from some array or points.
You can store names too,
Save codes uses push and pop functions to store numbers

for example, you have 10 different towers, they are indexed as tower type in an array with size equals to 10. The laser tower is located at position 5 of your array. arrays normally starts with index 0 then your laser tower gets index equals to 4 (5th position starting from 0)

to store this value you need to set a maximum value+1 (11) which represent all posibles positions in your array , then you push your position whitin.
A save object is required to keep all the data, in codeless its enabled via Savecode.create()

storing value should look "savecode.encode(4,11)"

a more readable version should be

local integer position = 4
local integer max_positions = 11
local Savecode savecode

call savecode.Create()
call savecode.encode(position,max_positions)

to retrieve data from savecode you need to pass the maximun size as argument to decode function

call savecode.decode(max_positions)

this should return 4.

Order of storing values is very important, always decode should be done in reverse order as encode order was done.

an encode order should be

call savecode.Create()
call savecode.encode(gold,max_gold)
call savecode.encode(points,max_points)
call savecode.encode(lumber,max_lumber)
call savecode.encode(position,max_positions)

decode in reverse order

call savecode.decode(max_positions)
call savecode.decode(max_lumber)
call savecode.decode(max_points)
call savecode.decode(max_gold)

that's as very basic insight
anyway I insist you need to learn the theory back the tool, if not there could appear bugs and errors you couldn't handle.

 

[Uncle]

Greetings,
I've been making my new TD map and trying to make this system which is
when u won my TD map 1 time, u would get a certain point and u paly my td map next time, u can load the info(point) of ur previous game
and u get a nick name next to ur battle net ID.
For example, Player named MonkeyKing won my map 10 times and on its 11th time of playing this map, he loaded his previous data and he be shown as [Grand Master] MonkeyKing.

I found some RPG based save and load or codeless tools.. but seems they don't work for TD maps. am i wrong ?

plz help

You probably found this system:

Codeless Save and Load (Multiplayer) - v3.0.1

Information If you've ever wanted to transfer progress between multiplayer maps, you probably needed to type in a long code. That is no longer needed with this system. This will allow you to read save data from your WC3 folder and sync it to all other players in the map. The demo map...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Understand that the demo map that comes with that system is just an example of what the system can do. You don't need to do it like that, you can use the system to save any data you could possibly want in any way you'd like. It's all done in the form of Integers. An Integer can be used to represent anything if used correctly.

I attached an edited version of the Codeless save and load system that shows you how to save and load your Wins/Losses. It's also done in the form of autosaving/autoloading so the user doesn't have to type anything.

Important: Your Aerial Shackles ability must be exactly the same as the one in my demo map! I know it's a weird requirement but this is very important.
Also, you'll need to be on the latest patch to open my map.

 

[Jeremy0352]

I believe the links I posted here will help you. basically "caching" lets you save persistent data.

Save and load heroes

Hi everyone! I need help with save and load trigger for heroes. I have four heroes in my campaign and I can’t understand how to load them all in the next chapter of the campaign:(

www.hiveworkshop.com

Thanks that post helped me understand how it works

Save and load or codeless tools should work for any kind of map you want to keep data.
You need to learn the teory back the tool and full use of arrays and indexes.
At the end save codes stores mainly numbers, integer numbers, those can be amounts of materials or indexes from some array or points.
You can store names too,
Save codes uses push and pop functions to store numbers

for example, you have 10 different towers, they are indexed as tower type in an array with size equals to 10. The laser tower is located at position 5 of your array. arrays normally starts with index 0 then your laser tower gets index equals to 4 (5th position starting from 0)

to store this value you need to set a maximum value+1 (11) which represent all posibles positions in your array , then you push your position whitin.
A save object is required to keep all the data, in codeless its enabled via Savecode.create()

storing value should look "savecode.encode(4,11)"

a more readable version should be

local integer position = 4
local integer max_positions = 11
local Savecode savecode

call savecode.Create()
call savecode.encode(position,max_positions)

to retrieve data from savecode you need to pass the maximun size as argument to decode function

call savecode.decode(max_positions)

this should return 4.

Order of storing values is very important, always decode should be done in reverse order as encode order was done.

an encode order should be

call savecode.Create()
call savecode.encode(gold,max_gold)
call savecode.encode(points,max_points)
call savecode.encode(lumber,max_lumber)
call savecode.encode(position,max_positions)

decode in reverse order

call savecode.decode(max_positions)
call savecode.decode(max_lumber)
call savecode.decode(max_points)
call savecode.decode(max_gold)

that's as very basic insight
anyway I insist you need to learn the theory back the tool, if not there could appear bugs and errors you couldn't handle.

Thanks for the good exmaple !

You probably found this system:

Codeless Save and Load (Multiplayer) - v3.0.1

Information If you've ever wanted to transfer progress between multiplayer maps, you probably needed to type in a long code. That is no longer needed with this system. This will allow you to read save data from your WC3 folder and sync it to all other players in the map. The demo map...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Understand that the demo map that comes with that system is just an example of what the system can do. You don't need to do it like that, you can use the system to save any data you could possibly want in any way you'd like. It's all done in the form of Integers. An Integer can be used to represent anything if used correctly.

I attached an edited version of the Codeless save and load system that shows you how to save and load your Wins/Losses. It's also done in the form of autosaving/autoloading so the user doesn't have to type anything.

Important: Your Aerial Shackles ability must be exactly the same as the one in my demo map! I know it's a weird requirement but this is very important.
Also, you'll need to be on the latest patch to open my map.

Thanks for the good explanation with ur demo!

#Uncle
Can i ask u one more thing?
I made my demo-save system with ur demo
but if i don't play Red(P1), like playing Blue(P2), Teal(P3) and so on.. this save system can't load my data
What else should i add in this below ?

• 
  Add Win
  • 
    
    Events
    • 
      
      
      Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -SAVE as An exact match
  • 
    
    Conditions
  • 
    
    Actions
    • 
      
      
      If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • 
        
        
        
        If - Conditions
        • 
          
          
          
          
          (Lives1 Greater than or equal to 1) and (pointer Greater than or equal to 56)
      • 
        
        
        
        Then - Actions
        • 
          
          
          
          
          Set VariableSet Wins[1] = (Wins[1] + 1)
        • 
          
          
          
          
          Game - Display to Player Group - Player 1 (Red) for 5.00 seconds the text: Added 1 Win to Play...
        • 
          
          
          
          
          Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)
      • 
        
        
        
        Else - Actions
        • 
          
          
          
          
          Do nothing

 

[Uncle]

Wins/Losses are Array variables. In this case their [Index] represents the Player that they're associated with.
So Wins[1] goes with Player 1, Wins[2] goes with Player 2, Wins[3] with Player 3, etc...

You can get the Player number of a Player at any given time as long as you have reference to a Player.

So with that in mind you can make a trigger like this:

• Events
  • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 2 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 3 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 4 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Set Variable Wins[Player number of (Triggering player)] = (Wins[Player number of (Triggering player)] + 1)

(Triggering player) will be set to whoever typed the message. Their Wins[] will be increased by 1. This single trigger will work
for as many players as you'd like. Just don't put a Wait action in there unless you know what you're doing because it can complicate things.

The basic idea for most Win/Loss save systems would be something like this:

Right before Defeating a player (they must still be in the game when you save), you increase their Losses by 1.
Right before giving a player Victory (again, they must still be in the game), you increase their Wins by 1.
You usually add all of losing players to a Player group and all of your winning players to a Player group beforehand.
Then you can use the Pick Every Player action to easily give the Picked players +1 Win/Loss.
Once that's said and done, you run the Save system for each player, saving their new records.

The only flaw with this system is that players can leave early to avoid getting a loss since it's only recorded at the
end of the game. A solution to this problem is to give every player a loss at the start of the game and then save. Then at the
end of the game, when a team/player has won, you simply subtract a loss from the winners and give them a win. The result
will be that anyone that has left/lost the game will have been given 1 loss and anyone that won will have been given 1 win.

If I were you I would read up on triggers some more and get a better idea of how everything works before jumping right into a system
as complicated as this one.

 

[emil23]

Wins/Losses are Array variables. In this case their [Index] represents the Player that they're associated with.
So Wins[1] goes with Player 1, Wins[2] goes with Player 2, Wins[3] with Player 3, etc...

You can get the Player number of a Player at any given time as long as you have reference to a Player.

So with that in mind you can make a trigger like this:

• Events
  • Player - Player 1 (Red) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 2 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 3 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
  • Player - Player 4 (Blue) types a chat message containing -Win as An exact match
• Conditions
• Actions
  • Set Variable Wins[Player number of (Triggering player)] = (Wins[Player number of (Triggering player)] + 1)

(Triggering player) will be set to whoever typed the message. Their Wins[] will be increased by 1. This single trigger will work
for as many players as you'd like. Just don't put a Wait action in there unless you know what you're doing because it can complicate things.

The basic idea for most Win/Loss save systems would be something like this:

Right before Defeating a player (they must still be in the game when you save), you increase their Losses by 1.
Right before giving a player Victory (again, they must still be in the game), you increase their Wins by 1.
You usually add all of losing players to a Player group and all of your winning players to a Player group beforehand.
Then you can use the Pick Every Player action to easily give the Picked players +1 Win/Loss.
Once that's said and done, you run the Save system for each player, saving their new records.

The only flaw with this system is that players can leave early to avoid getting a loss since it's only recorded at the
end of the game. A solution to this problem is to give every player a loss at the start of the game and then save. Then at the
end of the game, when a team/player has won, you simply subtract a loss from the winners and give them a win. The result
will be that anyone that has left/lost the game will have been given 1 loss and anyone that won will have been given 1 win.

If I were you I would read up on triggers some more and get a better idea of how everything works before jumping right into a system
as complicated as this one.

i used version modyfited from you but sometimes people desync at start of game any reason by what it can be caused?

 

[Uncle]

Is it actually related to the save/load system?

People usually desync at the start of the game because you're doing something bad during Map Initialization. Checking a Player's controller/slot status for example isn't safe until everyone has loaded into the game.

 

[emil23]

Is it actually related to the save/load system?

People usually desync at the start of the game because you're doing something bad during Map Initialization. Checking a Player's controller/slot status for example isn't safe until everyone has loaded into the game.

actually im not sure its so far two days since im using it in my map i kinda got stressed because i hate whenever i hear about desync. also any idea why your example map dissapeared from this thread? i was sure i downloaded it few weeks ago and i cant see it there anymore. idk if it matters but i changed directory folder renamed it to my map instead CodeLessDemo, next thing i did is

i am using this trigger at map init i changed it to 0.01 second

 

[Uncle]

That trigger can run during Map Initialization, all it's doing is setting some variables.

Desyncs are generally found in Actions that interact with Players.

 

[emil23]

i also changed this trigger a bit i hope i didnt modyfity anything importnat i made sure the way stuff are executed is same