Roflcopter vs f0rsAk3n vs calex3

[Roflcoptor]

The Hive Workshop
Challenge Request

1. Copy this form in its entirety.
2. Create a new thead in THW's Admin Contact or Challenge Submission forum. Title: Challenge Request.
3.Complete the information in each <field> below the underlined categories.
4. Do not alter the document in any other way.
5. Improperly completed requests may be rejected.

• No memory leaks are allowed in triggers or scripts.
• Challenge results must be bug-free.
• Copy and paste techniques are not permitted.
• No exports from other games are acceptable.

Challenge Theme:
Triggering [only GUI]
One Fire Spell


Challenger:
Roflcoptor


Opponent(s):
f0rsAk3n
calex3


Challenge Duration:
(7 days maximum)



Proposed Reputation Award:
(20 points maximum)



Challenge judging:
appointed judge:
Paladon



Map-specific conditions:
Imports allowed:
No (except DUMMY.mdx)

 

[Ghan_04]

Have f0rsAk3n and Paladon agreed to this?

 

[Roflcoptor]

Not yet, I will ask them (I wasn't sure in which order to do it)

 

[Roflcoptor]

Ok everyone has agreed by now

 

[f0rsAk3n]

Yeah i'm in.

 

[Gilles]

Waiting for Paladon to agree in this thread.

 

[Paladon]

Yeah, agreed.
I'm awaiting a good challenge guys!
Best luck.

 

[Roflcoptor]

Hm i wanted to ask if it's o if we use the dummy.mdx

Everyone agrees?

 

[calex3]

only one opponent... you need more! (can i join?)

 

[f0rsAk3n]

only one opponent... you need more! (can i join?)

I see no reason why not

It'll just make things more interesting

 

[calex3]

problem is that i don't really have too much ideas right now...

 

[Roflcoptor]

Well I wouldn't mind either

 

[Paladon]

Kay.

 

[calex3]

I have idea for fire spell....so i will gladly join this....btw when does it start (or it started )

 

[f0rsAk3n]

We may start as soon as this is in the Challenge Section. Meaning its officially approved

 

[Gilles]

Approved.

 

[Rmx]

Add calex to opponents list and good luck to you all

 

[calex3]

Tnx Rmx! and good luck guys...btw what is the real reputation award....it just says 20 points maximum...???

 

[Rmx]

You could bet like me and Palaslayer did ........ ask Gilles

 

[Roflcoptor]

Well, I'd bet 20 rep, which would mean the winner gains 20 rep, and the others loose 20, if I am right.

About MUI'ness, since it isn't really mentionend in the rules, it isn't neccesary, but will most likely give a MUCH better rating, plus I know we're all able to make our spells MUI.

I just came to that theme, because I wanted to know, what Paladon defines as MUI (which number).

I'd suggest 100, because you will ever even see 50 spells in a normal game, and I did some testing, "how MUI" blizz spells are, and came to the conclusion that for example Volcano can't run more than 20 times on my PC without dropping FPS to less than 20, meaning lagg. And before you start asking, I have a really good PC!

So I'd like Paladon to state, if 100 is an acceptable number.

Anyways good luck to you guys. Btw already WIPS?

Little Preview of my spell ;)

 

[calex3]

my will be better xD

 

[Roflcoptor]

As I was saying, just a preview, there might be major changes throughout the next day.

Also, this i so only what it looks like, a large part of the rating will also be based on triggering

 

[calex3]

i am having problems with my spell.....btw when does this end?

 

[Roflcoptor]

I guess it will end 7 days after it's approval, which would be 07-30-2009, 6:11 PM, but I'm not sure

 

[Paladon]

I just came to that theme, because I wanted to know, what Paladon defines as MUI (which number).

Why don't we take the usual index limit of around 8000 ?

 

[Roflcoptor]

Because it will never happen, and to reduce lagg in my spell, I was thinking of implementing a kind if a dummy movement system. And since there's more than one dummy per cast, i wanted to use a system with a seperate indexing. I tried unit groups, but it seems they don't work with indexing Oo, so this would be the easiest way.

As stated above, I don't see the reason, why any spell should be able to run 8000 times at once, since your PC will crash before it reaches such a number.

If you now think, it could become risky, because the indexing sys will only reset, if there is no instance running, I cann tell you, that I recycle indexes and thus ~600 instances of the spell would have to be ACTIVE at the same time to crash the game, which will never happen, because the game crashes due to lags, before it reaches this array size.

 

[Paladon]

If you use an indexing system you'll automatically have ~8000 slots for free once a time.
Whatever you prefer, if the 100 casts are used efficient and wisely, okay.

 

[Roflcoptor]

Excellent

 

[calex3]

If i use my knockback system?....is it allowed to use systems?....because Hero contest #2 contestants who used systems where banned....

 

[Paladon]

If the other contestants agree, you can.
Just wait with the implementation for their approval.
Maybe they're using similar systems.

Next to that, massive previous work is usually not allowed.

 

[calex3]

One more thing for you Paladon...
Is documentation required?
And do i need to add things in triggers to adjust spell like AoE=300?
....

 

[Paladon]

You dont need a documentation.
Adding "settings" for the spell is recommended.

 

[calex3]

Ok i will...and i already made spell...i need just few changes and it will be done....and i used my own knockback system...i hope they won't mind cause i could create it again but it won't going to have big differences...
And settings added...

 

[Roflcoptor]

Since it is your Knockback Sys, I think you would also be able to recreate it, so I don't have anything against it.

 

[calex3]

Ok tnx...UPLOADING MY SPELL HERE......In few moments will be done!
OK UPDATED:

 

[Rmx]

Review

CALEX

Review Rules

- Idea and creativity - # / 10

- Eye Candy and Ingame Play - # / 10

- Coding - # / 15

- Description of spell - # / 5

- If Spell is MUI you get +2

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-

The total amount is 50

If you get 10 = FAIL

If you get 20 = Lacking

If you get 30 = Acceptable

If you get 40 = Recommended

If you get 50 = Highly ! Recommended

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Review

Idea and Creativity - 4 / 10

Eye Candy & Ingame Play - 7.3 / 10

Coding - 10.5 / 15

Description of spell - 4 / 5


Total = 25.8

MUI [ Yes ] then 25.8 + 2 = 27.8

Status is [ Acceptable ]

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How To Improve

Not Included because it is a challegne !

 

[Roflcoptor]

Okay, since I am heading off for vacation this evening here is finally my entry:

Fiery Rage

 

[Rmx]

Review

ROFL COPTER

Review Rules

- Idea and creativity - # / 10

- Eye Candy and Ingame Play - # / 10

- Coding - # / 15

- Description of spell - # / 5

- If Spell is MUI you get +2

--------------------------------------------------------------------

-

The total amount is 50

If you get 10 = FAIL

If you get 20 = Lacking

If you get 30 = Acceptable

If you get 40 = Recommended

If you get 50 = Highly ! Recommended

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Review

Idea and Creativity - 6.5 / 10

Eye Candy & Ingame Play - 8 / 10

Coding - 6.5 / 15

Description of spell - 4 / 5


Total = 25

MUI [ Yes ] then 25 + 2 = 27

Status is [ Acceptable ]

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How To Improve

The word OMG describes your coding

 

[Paladon]

Then we are waiting for the third participant now.

 

[calex3]

So the winner is?

 

[Paladon]

So the winner is?

The third participant is late, i guess i start judging now.

 

[calex3]

Yep ...good luck to you roflcoptor...and good luck to me

 

[f0rsAk3n]

omg guys im so sorry, I had this Intek (Computer Programming) test to study for and I didnt have any time. When i finally came too I made something quick but it was too basic soo yeah.. sowi guys, i know i shouldve came through, but this exam was my whole future on a plate, though ill understand any negitive rep. Good luck to the both of you.

 

[Gilles]

If you can get a spell done before any results are in, I'll let it slide. That is if Paladon is okay with judging a late entry.

 

[calex3]

please be fast forsaken....i am waiting for the judging of this 2 days...

 

[Paladon]

I was just ready, but okay. I've nothing against it.

 

[Gilles]

Give him a day to respond, otherwise show the results.

 

[Paladon]

I'll be away for around two days in some minutes, so i guess he'll get the same time :/

 

[f0rsAk3n]

I'm almost done. Only a few more minutes to check code.

Edit: Done! Thanks alot for being so patient with me guys.

 

[calex3]

well you missed something in your spell.....try it and you'll see..[broke=You need to set area of effect to at least 100, else you can't see target point...]Click me[/broke]
anyway nice spell....could be winner maybe...