Rise of Civilizations v 3.13a

[Brambleclaw]

Oh i tested it, something is bugged (it doesn't work) D=
I'll fix and upload the fixed version T_T
Edit: Now I am confused and not sure I fully understand what a hashtable is.
Ima go ask in the code section D=


Acorn if it works and you are happy with the Resource consumption, then before you Implement it, the region/point system is inefficient. Also the Doodad creation is wrong if your are going to have a repeated setup.

So you should turn either add a separate variable integer array with values 0 or 1 to detect whether a camp has been created their already or not.
Then add an if then else to check this if so then only go through unit creation.
Also add another integer array to check whether it is a currently full camp.
Then an If then else function in the region/point picker than if value read (1) to then repeat the trigger for finding a region.

-->Otherwise you will have multiple camps on 1 spot etc.

Using a hashtable for the regions with

X(1)=Region
X(2)=(Current availabillity) (calculated by checking whether a unit group is empty or not ( unit group created after load function for particular camp)
X(3)=(Previous usage)
-->And Y being each separate part of the array.

 

[Acorn511]

If it doesn't work, I was thinking about triggers like this:

Every X seconds, pick 1 number between 1 and 10 randomly.

If 1, then spawn in region 1, and so on.

Each number also has another variable to check whether there is spawn there already or not.

For example, if "1" is picked, then the system first checks whether 1 is has creeps or not. If no creeps are present, it spawns a creep camp building and pings the location to all players. If there is a creep camp already, nothing happens until the next interval.This way, the rate of additional camps gets smaller and smaller as there are more camps spawned. Furthermore, as long as a camp is standing, the camp will send creeps as well. The extra mobs that the camp spawn will be based off the difficulty. The HP of the creep camp will also be dependent on the current difficulty.

By having all the regions be "x", all the leaks can also be quickly cleaned up with 1 trigger deleting the cache for "x" instead of every individual region.

Let me know what you think.

 

[Brambleclaw]

If it doesn't work, I was thinking about triggers like this:

Every X seconds, pick 1 number between 1 and 10 randomly.

If 1, then spawn in region 1, and so on.

Each number also has another variable to check whether there is spawn there already or not.

For example, if "1" is picked, then the system first checks whether 1 is has creeps or not. If no creeps are present, it spawns a creep camp building and pings the location to all players. If there is a creep camp already, nothing happens until the next interval.This way, the rate of additional camps gets smaller and smaller as there are more camps spawned. Furthermore, as long as a camp is standing, the camp will send creeps as well. The extra mobs that the camp spawn will be based off the difficulty. The HP of the creep camp will also be dependent on the current difficulty.

By having all the regions be "x", all the leaks can also be quickly cleaned up with 1 trigger deleting the cache for "x" instead of every individual region.

Let me know what you think.

This would work as well, however if you have random units running through it which are creeps from the normal spawn it could bug. Which is why I prefer the hashtable method (Which would work if implemented) Also with a hashtable you could count the 1's (Current camps) and then multiple that by a scalar quantity add that onto the time and use that as the next event, thus scaling spawn rates directly with camp count, instead of scaling spawn rates with chance and camp count.

Also the fact the system spawns doodads as well. If you were to have no doodads then this would work fine, just check that the region contains no units which are in Unit group X which is defined on Spawn

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...tion-type-recall-problems-235808/#post2355891

Apparently I think the reason why my previous hashtable isn't working is due to the loading of Destr and unit Id's or possible saving them in the wrong format

 

[FullVisor]

Win!!! If i play this i remember the WW2...

 

[Brambleclaw]

Fixed now however the locations are a bit buggy and it has been put into jass ( the disabled triggers are the gui version) the Custom script would crash my WE so yeh there was no other option. You should find it simple to replace variables though, as its all labelled. Just create a separate trigger add actions convert that to text then replace what you want to replace>

It would also make sense to turn Tree of Etenity into a separate unit variable.
Also if you are not concerned about Facing angles you could try
Hashtable
X value= Integer A
Y Value =
1 (Unit type for camp a)
2 (X cords for camp A)
3 (Y Cords for camp a)

4(unit type for camp b)
etc
Then randomly select which one to use and spawn it.

All the jass code and correction can be found on the previous question thread I linked.

 

[Acorn511]

Dam school, updates postponed

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Wow, really nice map. I only made it too castle age before I won. Will host on Battle.net tomorrow and the Zombie mode in multiplayer is really fun.

 

[cleavinghammer]

And here I was thinking Zombie mode couldn't get harder...

Two things you should consider changing: Give all worker units repair as active, and have the Chimerae come in after the gargoyles (otherwise they swarm before you can build decent anti-air).

 

[ultrapro]

This map is awesome i recommend it to every1 who is reading my reply!

 

[Acorn511]

Thank you for the suggestions! Making some changes so mobs don't clump and not attack. I will also switch the garg/chimera spawn order.

 

[cleavinghammer]

No, the order they come in isn't that important, I mean not having flyers come in before wave 9, otherwise you only have (at best) ballista towers and Babel, which don't last long.

 

[Acorn511]

No, the order they come in isn't that important, I mean not having flyers come in before wave 9, otherwise you only have (at best) ballista towers and Babel, which don't last long.

Chimeras are part of the challenge! They are basically cannon fodder as soon as you get gattling guns up. Also they don't spawn if you can kill all the creep camps btw.

I can improve the cannon tower a bit. Seems a bit lackluster for its age and I'll give it some degree of anti air.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Yes, unfortunately that would require enough of your base surviving long enough to get gatlings, since often they've chewed through half of it by that point. In half a dozen times I've tried this version, I was never even at the WWI Capitol when they came in. Also, if the creep camps are meant to be destructible, consider reducing the zombies that spawn from corpses, or limit them to some units. No attack force ever gets close to a camp since they've been killed exponentially fast.

 

[Acorn511]

Updated! Cut the chimera's attack power to 60%. Industrial age tower now can hit air.

 

[fr14nd1]

This map is great! it's not boring after I play serveral time!

But, i suggest there is another way to get gold (except the market), maybe?
And I got a bug which cause the rock tower to damage itself when using attack ground when I aim about 500 units away from it. Can you fix it?

 

[Acorn511]

The rock tower has siege splash damage. I might just make it target single enemies.

Gold can be received in 3 ways right now:
1. market income
2. Trading lumber for gold
3. Bounties

I removed goldmines due to people not liking them.

 

[fr14nd1]

OK, I get it.
My Request: Fix Onager's renge plase. It's annoying when they attack from tree and hard to see (Single Player Experience)

 

[cleavinghammer]

That one is easy enough: Arrange your base so that a tower isn't the first thing the enemy sees (walls work best). Then, just wait and repair the wall until a melee unit comes into sight and is attacked by the tower/units placed well behind the wall. The siege weapon gets a new target, moves into your tower's range, and dies quickly.

 

[fr14nd1]

OK, I tried and it did pretty well. Thanks.
In some try I repel it with Onager too, but it sacrifice my tower and half of my hero's life.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Personally, I never use units or heroes up until cannon are available, and after that only snipers, tank hunters, rockets and jets. Towers all the way (especially with zombies).

 

[cleavinghammer]

So what's new in this version? The cities can build more troops, but I can't see anything else.

 

[LordVandor1]

There's an issue with this map that I f***ing hate.
In order to protect your base,you have to make
a MASSIVE army.
I hate that,it causes lag and fighting becomes a
problem.
I suggest you to make all units stronger and more
expensive.
PLEASE do that.Otherwise,your map CAN'T be played.

 

[Acorn511]

There's an issue with this map that I f***ing hate.
In order to protect your base,you have to make
a MASSIVE army.
I hate that,it causes lag and fighting becomes a
problem.
I suggest you to make all units stronger and more
expensive.
PLEASE do that.Otherwise,your map CAN'T be played.

First of all, which mode are you playing? Against ai? Or against players?
Second, what are the specs of your pc?

I hadn't had many issues with lag myself when testing it.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Nerf/lose the Rain of Fire on Tyrants. In itself, it's not too difficult, but the fact that they can cast it from huge range, multiplied by a dozen of them, makes them impossible.

Love the Metal Storm though.

I certainly noticed better performance, so the timer must be working.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

There's an issue with this map that I f***ing hate.
In order to protect your base,you have to make
a MASSIVE army.
I hate that,it causes lag and fighting becomes a
problem.
I suggest you to make all units stronger and more
expensive.
PLEASE do that.Otherwise,your map CAN'T be played.

You realize that tons of people play this just fine? Ever heard of techtree and defences? The map works fine.

 

[ultrapro]

I like this map a lot, but its smg missing here...
Sry if i repeated somebody's thoughts, but what about music? like in sid meier's civ3 for example.

 

[fr14nd1]

There's an issue with this map that I f***ing hate.
In order to protect your base,you have to make
a MASSIVE army.
I hate that,it causes lag and fighting becomes a
problem.
I suggest you to make all units stronger and more
expensive.
PLEASE do that.Otherwise,your map CAN'T be played.

I never experienced lag. I used Core 2 Duo and it worked fine.

 

[Acorn511]

I like this map a lot, but its smg missing here...
Sry if i repeated somebody's thoughts, but what about music? like in sid meier's civ3 for example.

Music takes up precious file size. The map limit is at 8 mb. I included one soundtrack music for the WWI era and up though.

What do you mean by smg missing?

 

[ultrapro]

Pity. What about:
1. optimizing the project (by triggering instead of using modeleditor)
2. adding some water?
btw is it based on CIV3? or CIV4

 

[Acorn511]

Pity. What about:
1. optimizing the project (by triggering instead of using modeleditor)
2. adding some water?
btw is it based on CIV3? or CIV4

1. What do u mean by triggering instead of modeleditor????? Triggering and Models are two totally seperate things. No idea where you're getting at.

2. I hate ships. Ships makes it hard to move land units around. It's based of Empire Earth originally, not CIV.
Some people decided to edit my map and added water. Linl: http://www.epicwar.com/maps/144808/. However, personally I don't think it works as well.

 

[ultrapro]

I like the water versions as i like point control version. that's the prob

 

[Luis Antony]

This map has very good models but do not know how to use 100% for example:
-ill projectiles in some units
-silly names
-do not use all your animations
-no good skills used
-etc
but alas units seems that you've put a lot enpeño as misile nuclear Explosion, the domslide machine and others.
to 100 mi of 1 to 60.

 

[cleavinghammer]

The new wonders are awesome.

 

[Sky Green]

Well, you've improved it alot since I first played it. But you increase the food limit to 200.

 

[Acorn511]

Well, you've improved it alot since I first played it. But you increase the food limit to 200.

Making it 150 is kind of like a cap to income. Also it forces people to make sacrifices to their income to build the final hero.

 

[Luis Antony]

I do not think it's a good idea to increase the limit of food, on my map ise that and not only lagea but also puts fatal error after 10 minutes.

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

Hello,I'm sorry ，I without your consent.yesterday I just finished a new chinese Simplified Translation version2.13a, but you know.I want to know when the stable version will be born. Would you please tell me, and give help.And How to upload it。
←↑Baidu translation of the text

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，could you help me？

Hello,I'm sorry ，I without your consent.yesterday I just finished a new chinese Simplified Translation version2.13a, but you know.I want to know when the stable version will be born. Would you please tell me, and give help.And How to upload it。

email [email protected]

←↑Baidu translation of the text

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

here is 2.06 ，I‘m waiting for you new version。Come on！
http://www.epicwar.com/maps/237356/

 

[Acorn511]

Newest edits will be out in a few days. Mainly bug fixes

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hi 511

http://www.epicwar.com/maps/237356/
I took the liberty of modified a little content. What do you suggest? This words translated by the translation tool, if the mood is not correct, please forgive me.
I hope we can do together, help each other。but I only know a little basic knowledge.

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

Hey, I have a plan, we may make a map together，what you think about

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

I feel more and more excited ah, if we can work together, that is too good！

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

Did I scare you?I'm sorry, I was just so excited.

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

where are you from？

 

[Acorn511]

If you want to help on the map, you can start with some suggestions for balance or future content. Thank you.

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hi 511

If you want to help on the map, you can start with some suggestions for balance or future content. Thank you.

You misunderstood my meaning, I mean to make a new map of our cooperation

 

[Acorn511]

Thank you for the offer but I'm afraid I will have to pass.

 

[XCG.XiChen]

hello 511 ，

a stable version? Not too big a change at least in the short term？

 

[Acorn511]

Mainly spelling fixes and small bug fixes recently. Big changes will come when I get some ideas lol.