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Riddle map

Do you like Riddle/Puzzle maps?


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Riddle Mania

Map info

Map name:
Riddle Mania (version 1.44B)

Name of the creator:
Psf_Kurt

Current stage of the map:
alpha-beta (map is playable and can be finished, but I still want to add more stuff)

Credits:
All previous Riddle map creators for the inspiration, special mention to maps like T.M.'s, Treasure Cave and Chernobyl.
Hi there!

This is my first map and I'm putting a lot of effort on it. Please try it out and give me your thoughts.

If anyone has any ideas for a riddles/puzzles, or wants to help me in any kind of way, please be welcome!

Features in the latest updated version

*Number of levels chooser (5,10,15, or 21 [max])
*Dynamic system which randomizes the Riddles (44)
**Randomly selecs one Riddle from the Riddle pool for each level.
*Dynamic system for Puzzles (2)
**Each time you do the puzzle it changes the correct answer/switch
*Multiple answer checker: Checks article and to avoid not getting the answer by typing/not typing and article (or lower/upper case)
Future Ideas

*Add more riddles (up to 60 I think)
*Add more puzzles (Third one is under construction)
*Allow Player to set difficulty level for easy/hard Riddles
*Add more hints
Development

Playability:99% - Map can be played and finished
Riddles: 80% - 44 implemented
Puzzles: 49% - 2 implemented
Terrain: 80% - Terrain is done, needs Doodads


Version 1.44B
*44 Riddles
*2 Puzzles
*Updated version to fix one bug when not entering answer in lowercase:
**Added a trigger to check answers that weren't entered as lower case (Reported by A]mun)

Version 1.42A
*42 Riddles
*Added first Puzzle
*Fixed some disabled triggers (that i forgot) from last version

Version 1.39
*Added more riddles (up to 39)
*Started working on the first puzzle (under construction)
*Added indicators showing puzzles are under construction
*Added dynamic system (Randomizes Riddles)
*Added a dialog that lets you chose between doing 5,10,15 or 21 riddles

Version 1.03b
*Disabled Hero's skills (will add again in the future)
*Made Game messages nicer
*Changed Riddler model
*Set up Riddle/Hint/Answer templates, so adding new ones will be really easy
*Added 1 Riddle (3 Riddles)

Version 1.02
*Set up the Riddle Triggers (Ask riddle, compare answer)
*Added 2 Riddles (2 Riddles so far)

Version 1.00b
*Created Welcome message
*Configured Custom Units/Spells/Items

Version 1.00
*Created Terrain
 

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one important factor is to make the game possible to complete with only one player, since these riddle games aren't too popular. therefore people can play alone and not have 3 or 4 people join, just to get frustrated and leave, causing the game to become impossible

I'm making the game for only 1Player at the moment (Because as I'm new with triggers, it's simpler to make it just for one player). If the map turns out good, and people ask for it, then I'll make it multiplayer.

The map is not going to have any kind of puzzles that you need more than one player in order to succedd the task.

Thanks anyways for the suggestion though.
 
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New version

Updated map to version 1.42A.
*Fixed some un-enable'd triggers that I forgot on last update
*Added first Puzzle
*More Riddles to the Riddle-pool
Will edit first post with the changes.


Please, try the map out and leave me any comments!
 
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Hey there,

i've played your map and i found one bug, or maybe i simply don't get the answer to the riddle which tells: "At the sound of me, men may dream, or stomp their feet. At the sound of me women may laugh or weep . What am I?"

"-Music" did not work
 
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A]mun;1680317 said:
Hey there,
i've played your map and i found one bug, or maybe i simply don't get the answer to the riddle which tells: "At the sound of me, men may dream, or stomp their feet. At the sound of me women may laugh or weep . What am I?"
"-Music" did not work

]It is because the answer-checker-system is case sensitive. You have to type in lower case (Im gonna have to add that on the tips)
Therefor, your answer was correct, but the triggers would have only given you the answer as correct if you had typed:
"-music" or "-the music"

Thank you for the bug-repport. I found the trigger which converts the input chat string into lower case, I'm gonna try to implement it. From now on, type the answers in lower case ;)

Ok, I think this will fix it =) :
  • Set AnswersLoweCase = (String((Entered chat string)) as Lower case)
  • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
    • If - Conditions
      • Or - Any (Conditions) are true
        • Conditions
          • (Entered chat string) Equal to Answers[var]
          • (Entered chat string) Equal to Answers2[var]
          • Answers[var] Equal to AnswersLoweCase
          • Answers2[var] Equal to AnswersLoweCase
    • Then - Actions

That has been fixed now.

EDIT: Updated map version to 1.44B
*Second Puzzle is now playable and dynamic.
 
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Review » Pluses and Minuses

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» Dynamic questions

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» Non-case sensitive answers

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» Hints


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» Missing uniqueness

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» No custom preview

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» Lack of ground textures / missing leveldesign

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» Missing lore

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» Only passive riddles

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» Linear gameplay

Review » Numeric conclusion

Creative Level Design: 2/30
Unique Ideas: 3/20
Defined Artistic Style: 2/20
Lore: 0/10
Gameplay: 3/20

Summary: 10/100
Review » Worth Reading

With Riddle Mania you've picked a very hard (and no so popular) map-genre. When you know that, there must be some more content. Solving riddles - of the player's point of view - without getting something, is quite dangerous.
In Riddle Mania, the player's playing your map - just getting answers which even can be googled in most cases and that's horrible boring. Furthermore the linear gameplay is killing remaining patience.

You need a lore, like in Treasures Cave - better: a dynamic lore. A good start, and a good ending which has replayability-value overall. The player don't like to solve pure riddles.
Just re-think your concept. I'm sure, that you are able to create something unique.

Push your ideas, and keep going! (;
 
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I doubt I'll continue this map. It was my first attempt for a map, and making a map without really thinking about it before I started, but thinking about it as I worked on it, really didn't lead me anywhere.
Next time I attempt with one I'll follow your tips, Facto.

Should I give this map a little more polish and upload it on the maps section?

I already have some ideas on mind for a next map, I think it could be about Dante's Divine Comedy.
I think is a great subject that has no maps about it, has a great lore, and could have a nice story that could lead into an adventure-explore-riddle-puzzle map.
 
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