Removing standard abilities from specific units

[Nano]

I've been searching the forums for a while trying to find a question/answers similar to this, but the best i can find is 'check Game Interface' yet all i can see there is icons.

Basically there is no reason for my Tower Building Peasant to have a Patrol ability.

Towers also do not need the 'Stop' ability. Is there a way to easily remove specific standard abilities from specific units?

 

[YoshiRyu]

you can't remove basic moves
if an unit can move, it can patrol
if an unit can attack, it can stop

if your tower doesn't need any manual command, you can add to this classification "ward"; it disable all command button (including skills)

a way to remove button and keep skill is set your unit to ward, and use items + triggers to emulate the commands you need to keep.

 

[Need_O2]

I think there is a remove basic abilities like attack, move, stop, patrol in World Editor Unlimited (WEU) I should give a link here, one moment...
Here
May be WEU can help ya

OR

You can change its icon with a 32x32 black image but it will be still clickable :/ too bad SCII WE will be better I hope

 

[YoshiRyu]

WEU allow you to perform forbidden action of the WE (like using neg values)
that's doesn't change the map format

so two possibilities :
- the map allow you to remove these commands... so why wouldn't the WE had an associated option?
- the map doesn't allow to remove these commands and that's why there is no way to do this in the WE.

i don't think devs have time to loose on making unusued options management... so i'm pretty sure the second explanation is the right one and all we can do is wait for a patch wich add this features

now, we can still use "item command" on ward units, that's work

 

[Razorbrain]

ehm, maybe use

• Unit - Remove Move from Unit

it works with Rally, but i dont know with others

 

[Nano]

Thanks so much for the replies, i'm sure i'll be able to get something close to what i'm after going

 

[PurplePoot]

Removing Move also removes the capability for the unit to move.

 

[YoshiRyu]

but maybe it will works with only "patrol" (without removing "move") and "stop"
i'll try

EDIT: @Razorbrain, where do you find this "unit - remove ???" wich allow to use "Move" as param? remove ability doesn't allow this.

 

[PurplePoot]

just use a line of "custom script";

call UnitRemoveAbility(yourUnit,'Amov')

 

[Need_O2]

is Amov the move action we know ?
I didnt know something like that is posible :/

And yoshi it allows on WEU as I know
Unit - Remove move from (Picked Unit)
Well I never used WEU in real map making just for testing what does it provide etc etc
Hope I wont need to use I wonder why did I say this its really good actually but whyevery I dont like it :/

 

[YoshiRyu]

if you can do this in WEU, i don't understand why you can't in WE
WE limits are made to avoid problematic cases (causing crashes)
i can't found any probleme with removing a basic command
in the worst case, the unit simple become unusuable...
i'll try with custom script

EDIT:
UnitRemoveAbility takes an abilityId... does someone know the patrol's abilityId?

EDIT EDIT:
that doesn't work with 'Amov' anyway...

 

[PurplePoot]

There is none.

'Amov' = move
'Aatk' = attack

Remove move; move disappears, patrol and hold pos also disappear
Remove attack; attack disappears
Remove attack AND move (or if you only have 1 or the other and remove it); stop disappears

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I think

'Aher' is Hero, but I can't be sure (the skill menu)

 

[Need_O2]

There are too much things you cant do in WE already like removing minimap blabla box (the box shows where camera shows)
Unit get damaged Generic event (can be done by long jass code)
Removing %100 in income window and Armor reduce amounts (you need to import a non-transparent tooltip image for it and give %100 same color with that image)
OH this is the most annoying part for me being not able to make tooltip texts transparent
There are MORE if you ask for I hope they find a way for these in SCII

 

[YoshiRyu]

There are too much things you cant do in WE

devs don't make features they don't need

@PurplePoot : removing 'Amov' doesn't works, and i think it probably 'remove' it also for move orders from triggers anyway...

PS: don't forget that the thread autor just want to remove the command's button

 

[Razorbrain]

EDIT: @Razorbrain, where do you find this "unit - remove ???" wich allow to use "Move" as param? remove ability doesn't allow this.

ehm

ehm, maybe use

• Unit - Remove Move from Unit

it works with Rally, but i dont know with others

well

 

[Need_O2]

Also they should make unit variables I mean variable in unit
Units have variables already like HP, mana, x cor, y cor, model, move speed etc etc Why cant we add them more ? There is only point value and custom value we can use (also WEU allows custom boolean value and custom string value)

 

[Razorbrain]

Also they should make unit variables I mean variable in unit
Units have variables already like HP, mana, x cor, y cor, model, move speed etc etc Why cant we add them more ? There is only point value and custom value we can use (also WEU allows custom boolean value and custom string value)

maybe use a Attribute Bonus skill with Hidden Icon and no bonuses?