Regarding Today's Server Downtimes

[Ralle]

Today the server's been down twice. The first time was because of a vbulletin mod being uninstalled which removed everything called Language = vbulletin error.
The second downtime was because of a tiny DoS attack on the server.. Thank you, whoever likes to ruin the fun for everybody else.

I just felt I wanted to tell you why these things happen.


Ralle

 

[Jacek]

Damn hackers.

 

[Ralle]

Actually... It's not really hacking.. Someone are just so interested in downloading R2D2.zip model so they are doing it 100 times at the same time. = someone wants their model to get popular?

 

[Jacek]

just ban the author xD

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Olofmoleman?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

could you restrict the amount of downloads on a single recource from the same ip to 3 per day or something?

 

[Rui]

Simply ban the one who's downloading it so many times. IP Ban for Guests, of course.

 

[Wolverabid]

I think it's very likely that some (unspecified) changes will soon take place.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

If it was someone who had the intent of actually messing with the community, then must they burn at the stake!

 

[Ralle]

Yes.. Well the IP is known. But cannot be looked up. Someone did it on purpose.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

doom on whoever did that

 

[The Last Istari]

Maybe someone did it out of loving passion for their favorite little sadistic and sarcastic droid?

 

[Kimbo]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

a bit cruel i think. there are otherways to stop these sort of problems.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

limit dls to a certain amount per IP per hour?

 

[GST_Nemisis]

thats what i would suggest.

 

[1)ark_NiTe]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

This would discourage so many people from visiting the Hive. Like GST said, there are other methods to deal with this sort of problem such as limiting the amount of downloads of a single resource that one IP address can have.

 

[Cba81]

^^^ If your not a member that is....
Anyway

Its np Ralle thats what mods are for.

 

[Shados]

limit dls to a certain amount per IP per hour?

Do it like this, perhaps:

Guests = 1 download of the same resource per IP per hour.

Members = Unrestricted (Because you can easily ban the member along with their IP)

-*meow*

 

[Kitabatake]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

There's nothing cruel in that, but the site would end up having an immense amount of members who have registered only to gain access to the resources.
Those people will most likely give no comments or post any messages and their postcount would be about 0.

So members dl only would be a bad mistake, at least in my opinion.

 

[Rui]

I usually use the multi-rim (page)thing to open multiple pages. Samuraid said someone was hitting The Hive with multiple conections. I have been afraid the rim-thing is what causes the downtimes to happen. Could it be possible?

 

[Arab4life]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

Nah, it is cruel. Take it from me, i was a guest for a while. I liked the resources here, it even made me start map making. (I joined to Upload my map)

So if guests were not allowed to DL i would've just gone F*ck it. It really attracts more members. Just limit the DL's per IP.

 

[Jacek]

I don't care. My IP is dynamic, when I hit the limit of downloads I can just reconnect to internet and I have totally different IP ^_^

 

[GST_Nemisis]

my ip is dynamic but the hive knows who i am because of cookies too

 

[Teh_Ephy]

Shados's idea is awesome, although maybe boost it more than one?

 

[Shados]

Why would you want to download the same resource more than once an hour?

-*meow*

 

[Samuraid]

Why would you want to download the same resource more than once an hour?

-*meow*

Well, if someone tries to download the file and accidentally cancels it (or their connection dies) it would be nice for them to be able to have another try.

Also, some browsers will open multiple connections to the site. With only 1 download per hour, this won't help at all and things may not download very smoothly for them.

The best solution is along the lines of what GST_Nemesis, Teh_Ephy, and Shados suggested: Limit the number of downloads (and the number of simultaneous connections) for each IP address over a set time period. 1 download per hour is a bit too stringent. 100 downloads per hour is very generous, but would still keep the pests (that are doing much more than that) away.

Just some observations...

 

[Kaitech[SanD]]

Well if we had it so its 1 every hour per Guest and Unlimited per Member then they'd all just sign up to be members and yet again do the same thing. Members should be restricted to 5 downloads per hour and guests 2.

 

[Kimbo]

Why would members be restricted? They are on the leash, the guests are the worry.

 

[Jacek]

I clean my cookies every day

 

[Wolverabid]

You think we should make members dl only? Or is that abit cruel?

There's nothing cruel in that, but the site would end up having an immense amount of members who have registered only to gain access to the resources.
Those people will most likely give no comments or post any messages and their postcount would be about 0.

So members dl only would be a bad mistake, at least in my opinion.

I tend to agree: our resources should be available to the general public without any preconditions.

The best solution is along the lines of what GST_Nemesis, Teh_Ephy, and Shados suggested: Limit the number of downloads (and the number of simultaneous connections) for each IP address over a set time period. 1 download per hour is a bit too stringent. 100 downloads per hour is very generous, but would still keep the pests (that are doing much more than that) away.

Also agreed and seconded: our best web programers (gee I wonder just who THEY might be!) are currently brainstorming the problem and looking into possible solutions.

 

[Teh_Ephy]

OMG idea theft from another site, anyways:
Guests use download points (on the other site, users have them and guests can't DL at all, but registration is easy/free). Make a map's point cost related to its size, and have them recharge every day. i don't know about how storing each guest's DL points would work, but it would DEFINITELY make people think about what they want to DL.

Members should also use DL points, but the amount they recharge to should be affected by reputation and post count.

Good idea yes/no?