RBB - Round-based Battle System V1.04

[Moderator]

22:04, 3rd Feb 2009
Hanky:

Advice: 5 points are the highest rating and 1 point is the lowest rating.

Documentation: 4
Visual Effects: -
Triggering: 5
Idea: 5

Nice system, maybe you could add to the example the ability "flee". But there could be some more documentation like what do every trigger in your system.

Advice: If you didn't understood my rating or if you maybe have questions because you don't know how to fix bugs or leaks etc.. You can always send a private message to me. I will answer as soon I got time.

 

[redscores]

This Map took a long time (3 days, every day 5 hours of work).

I hope you enjoy this map, its made for round-based battle fans...

If you want to make a "like-real" final fantasy 8 map or 7 or a game which uses a familiar battle system to FF8, this map is the right stuff for you.

I will write soon a complete manual, so if you understand the system right now... it is wonderful! for the people which don't will have to wait for the manual.

 

[Dynasti]

Idea is ancient but looks good

 

[redscores]

What is so ancient on this? most recent RPGs (no action or MMORPGs) use still that type of battle.

 

[Dynasti]

What is so ancient on this? most recent RPGs (no action or MMORPGs) use still that type of battle.

Im talking about old RPG or MMORPGs. Like FF1

 

[redscores]

hm? FF8, FF7, FF6, FF5, FF9 and FF10 used a similiar system as this.

 

[bboy-tiger-]

I+ll check this now, can this be used for Heroes of Might an Magic or similar Strategy games, right ?

 

[redscores]

Well, it is like this: 5 player units/heroes (each player can have 1 unit or hero) and max 5 creeps, its kind of Final Fantasy-like.

DOWNLOAD THE CURRENT VERSION, the old version had a small bug which prevented the removement of the added camera bounds.

 

[NiddHogg-kun]

i like it ^^
4.5/5

 

[Ranger21]

Can you make some action stuff when unit use ability attack?

And footman can move around battle... that a bug?

 

[redscores]

No, it is not a bug.

And the attack is just an example, you can do whatever you want as attack, but I will write a manual for that.

The Unit is able to move because with spells you will be able to move the unit, for example a jump attack is not unrealistic.

I will write a complete Text file about my system.

THE MANUAL IS NOW ATTACHED TO THE MAINPOST!

How to make your own Creep Attacks attached to the Mainpost.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

I told you in chat.

And arrow, as the one in 'vendor' (buff) woudl be nice, over the attacking unit.
Right now, its pretty hard to see, who is attacking who.

 

[redscores]

ok, I may add that arrow.

 

[Avator]

In my opinion, this system still lacks. It gives a minor impression of the possibilities due to lack of examples. 1 attack ability and units doing nothing but playing 1 animation doesn't show a lot of the possibilities able here. I suggest that if you show a bit more, like 1 or 2 very simple abilities and making the units at least move to their targets when they attack in melee. If you fix this, I think it can be well used. Until then I'd give it a 2.5/5.

 

[redscores]

Nvm, I was being a red head...

 

[D a w n]

the system seems to work well but here are some things that I noticed:

the trolls in the test battle don´t play their stand animation when they don´t attack but they are just frozen. I think it would be better if they would also move like your own unit.

It would be nice if you would also add a side-view camera like the one in ff

 

[redscores]

The Problem is somehow that they need commands to move correctly, but the attack system of the creeps does not use any orders, just triggers, so I see no possibility for that yet, and the second camera would cause bugs if someone makes a battle arena in the near of the map end.

Added: 1 new spell for the player: fire, and 1 new spell for the creeps: enrage.

If you want more example spells you can tell me what you exactly want to see.

 

[Avator]

Good. You listened to advise and fixed several bugs. The only real bug I could detect is that that melee unit still attacks ranged. You can easily fix like this:

• Set TempPoint = (Position of YourUnit)
• Unit - Order YourUnit to Attack Once TargetedUnit
• Wait 2.00 seconds
• Unit - Order YourUnit to Move To TempPoint
• Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_TempPoint)

 

[redscores]

Not really, all units in this system got no attack, they use abilitys, but i can make a near real attack if you like, so the unit moves towards the target and plays attack animation and turns around and runs back.

And normally its YOUR job to add spells which suit your game, i just make examples so you can see what the capabilitys are.

 

[Avator]

Yes, that's good. If you got that fixed, there's probably nothing more I'd have you fix

 

[TheBlooddancer]

That would be better.

 

[redscores]

It is absolutely no fix, in your map you would have to do a attack spell by yourself and such, I just show the possibilities of this system.... there is no right or wrong... in case of the attacks (spells)...

Why dont you understand that?

All these attacks used are added, you need to do your own...

The Main focus of this system relays not on the attacks, more on the mechanics... and the flexibility

You can add creeps with up to 5 different attacks which you need to do by yourself, there is no fixed attack ability, it is just a spell as all others...

 

[Avator]

Yes, but my point is: People want to see the possibilities with their own eyes. If they see that melee unit thing I'm talking about, they'll think there will be a problem in your system. I think you would understand what kind of stamp this map would get by the general audience if that would happen.

 

[redscores]

Okay, I changed the attack spell, it is now QUITE better looking, the player unit walks now directly infront of the enemy and attacks him and walks back.

 

[D a w n]

I really like that new melee attack

Oh and I have a question: You have to force the creeps to attack and to play the spell anim for example, right???
If you do so: Wouldn´t it be possible to let the creeps ,ake a dummy spell after their real spell that forces them to play their stand animation until the next time they attack??

 

[redscores]

I dont force the creeps, I use a ability for the normal attack, which I added.

And I already try to set the unit animation, but that causes the problem with the freeze, it stucks somehow, and I tested it, it always does if you play the stand animation, and I found no way to fix that.

And I think it is not such a big problem... it looks bad... but I have no concrete idea how to fix it.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Thanks for fixing/adding what i mentioned :3

 

[redscores]

No problem, I hope there will come more feedback, I may add some damage show system and such.

 

[Dynasti]

RBB MMORPG ETC FTW!





Bewbs >

 

[Avator]

With all the improvement you made since you uploaded this, like the walking to the target, added sample abilities, active unit marker, etc. I think you've got yourself a good system. The only bug in it is that the active unit marker stays on the unit after battle. Also the abilities are still usable when outside of battle. If you can hide these when not in battle it should be a flawless system.

 

[redscores]

The Problem is, I cannot detect the abilities of the player units, I could if I would add them through a new function... thats the problem, if someone has a idea how to do that... tell me! ^^

And I think if you use this system in a map, it would be not too bad if you can read the abilities outside of the battles... dunno, just a thought.

 

[Avator]

Yea, you got a point there. It's not a disaster to keep the abilities in sight. The marker just has to be fixed then.

 

[redscores]

Fixed: the arrow indicator will be removed now correctly.

Added: You cannot cast spells outside of battle now (if you make a new spell just add the if then else at the start of the spell to prevent it too).
It gives a error message.

 

[Avator]

Good. With that out of the way, I changed my vote to 5/5. This system can be very useful to many people and works flawlessly for as far as I've noticed.

 

[redscores]

Thanks alot, glad that you changed your mind when I put enough effort in it.

 

[D a w n]

the system really improved now. The only thing I still don´t like are the bug with the creeps :/ but that´s just a small thing.

I still have a suggestion: it would be nice if you could add a dead event for players´ units. What I mean is: if a unit/hero of a player dies it will play the dead anim and will lie on the ground. This could be useful for a revive spell.
Oh and I still would like to see another camera that you can choose

I will give it a 4/5 right now just because I want you to work a bit more on this system =P

 

[redscores]

What do you mean by a different camera? My system does not support 2 cameras, I could add one, but how would you select the different camera?...

And yes, that thing with on the ground lying is possible... I will see what I can do.

 

[Avator]

Just use a command like -camera 1 or -camera 2. Or you can change the camera when performing an action. Like you rotate 90 degrees around the caster when he performs a spell action. The last one is probably more for show then to give an impression of the system and it's more work then the first, so I should just use the 'Player - A player types -camera as a substring' option to switch camera position.

 

[D a w n]

yes that was what I had in mind

 

[redscores]

Added: Revive and Revive All Command + Revive System.
Added: Command: -cam, changes from cam 1 to cam 2 and vice versa if again typed in.

Now my system supports 2 different cams and offers a revive system.

Additionally I added a example for an revive spell.

 

[D a w n]

is there any way to test that revive spell??^^

oh and the secong camera is nice

 

[redscores]

Well... if you would play it in multiplayer... it supports up to 5 player as i told, and if a friend dies... then you could test it.

But I already tested it, it works.

 

[Yixx]

Ok, i am seriously thinking about making that pokemon game now ^^
The system is really nice! It is like:
Whoooaaa!!
The Pointer is handy, the view is nice,,
Only maybe make an ability that can be cast on one unit, so you can see that works too??
Very nice!! 5/5

 

[D a w n]

Ok, i am seriously thinking about making that pokemon game now ^^
The system is really nice! It is like:
Whoooaaa!!
The Pointer is handy, the view is nice,,
Only maybe make an ability that can be cast on one unit, so you can see that works too??
Very nice!! 5/5

test the attack spell

 

[Yixx]

test the attack spell

Oops xD
Well, it still is the best!! =P
Imma make that pokemon map for sure now!^^
But i dont know if it is going to finish,,
(since my first 3 attempts at maps sucked ass ^^ )

 

[redscores]

Well, thanks alot, I hope my system is good.

 

[Yixx]

Well, you did quite good in imitating the game
( I just saw the youtube movie ^^)

 

[redscores]

Okay, thanks alot.

 

[redscores]

There is some documentation, read the description, the documentation are the manuals, but I cannot attach the manuals permanently to the post, so I wrote inside that you need to pm me for informations.