Pokemon RPG

[Wazzz]

Well, I'm okay at terraining, I can get things done and make them look good, but if Deathunter won't be doing the cities, then that part should be Yixx, HFR and myself pitching in on that to get a better overall look. Perhaps we allocate which person does what cities? If so, we must organize that first. And I think Yixx has created the basis of them for the upcoming demo.

Speaking of the demo, how's the systems going so far? Much left before it's just a matter of copying and pasting? Demo far off?

 

[Whizza]

Ummm, just reading the last few pages, but if a hero can only go through 30 moves, im guessing theres no capacity for tms and hms? or is that gonna be a special block of coding?
And I was gonna say for the quest thing, just go search the city for a strength master, who will give you a quest to find something (anyone remember gold teeth?)

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Oh bullshit.... Yixx, i think we have to recode the Learning system D:

I forgot that theres TM's and HM's D:

Well, it shouldn't be a big problem.

Also, we can pretty simple increase the ammount of moves a pokemon can learn when it levels up to... lets say 143

And for the TM's HM's... well, shouldn't be a problem. Just needs to check if the pokemon has TMS or HMS too. Not a big deal.

 

[Whizza]

or maby you can have the level set to 100 + tm/hm number
then set the conditional loop.... so the pokemon lvls to watever number (say 101 for tm01) as far as the module is concerned so it goes through the same loop?
then add a extra tag to the hm moves to stop it being writen over?
big hypotheticals but ehh

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Im not sure if i understood it right

What we do, is simply just increasing the ammount of moves a pokemon can learn through all its levels, by the ammount of TM's+HM's.

Meaning 30 + (tm+hm)

 

[HFR]

I can terrain a city, but you'll have to send me an small version or wait me to go to an Lan House. Actually, cities are simmetrical, and even an medium terrainer can make an good one. As far as I know, villages are harder to make than cities, as villages have that rustic feeling, and you have to put more nature in it.

 

[Wazzz]

Cities in Pokemon, at the very least, aren't symmetrical at all. They are simply easier to do because of a more organised feel to them. At least, that's what I think you're trying to say

I reckon if we did a more natural feeling village for at least one village, then we could work on the basis and get deathunter to add the natural feel to it.

 

[HFR]

Ok, villages are like the that. And I made an mistake, cities aren't "simmetrical" they're just squarish like.

And, by the way, Happy Easter for all!!

 

[Yixx]

Hahaha, happy easter to you too

I might have an idea for the learning system,, for the attacks that the pkmn learns itself, we use the current system, and then we have an other variable, that has EVERY ability in it, even TM's and HM's, something like: PK_AllAttacks[],, check for each of these variables if the Pkmn has it, and set it in an other variable like: PK_Evolve_LearnedAttacks[],, you know?
Then we add those variable attacks to the new Pkmn,, get it?
But it will again need for each attack to be set manually! =(

 

[HFR]

Oh, so many triggers... Yixx, I'm willing to create more quests!

 

[Yixx]

Well, think of more quests! =P,,, you got a big imagination, so think of something, a lost rattata, a thread to the Pidgey (woodcutter, whatever),, someone who wants you to help him with a new machine he has (you know, little quests that keep the game going!)

Ok, i redid the village, and i am quite happy with it! =D

 

[HFR]

It looks alright, still needs more details, thought.

About quests, let's, more one!

During your way to the first gym, you encounter a Bird Keeper. He wants you to escort him along the forest. During this time, all the battle will be double and the bird keeper have an Pidgey/Spearow/Pidgeot, level ??. In the end of the forest, the bird keeper thanks you and gives you a <insert ramdom item here>

Mission: Let's escort them all!

Objective: Escort the Bird Keeper along the forest, battling the pokemons in double battle mode.

HINTS: Remember, if the Pidgey/Spearow/Fearow dies/faints, it's game over for you!

Here is, another one!

 

[Yixx]

Ya more detail, but honestly,, does it look ok?

Ya the quest is nice! But i need to check if the double thing is possible,, maybe i need to change a little thing in the battle system, but ill definitely add this quest (with or without the battle thing!)
These are the sort of quests we need,, more of them,, also maybe little quests like walking towards someone else and walking back (maybe handing over an item) and then its done, (or maybe walk back once more),, those quests are also usefull,, we need lots of quests,, LOTS

 

[En_Fuego]

The player's pokemon should be completely healed (along with the partner's) after double battles where they tag-along in an area with you.

 

[HFR]

It's ok, but it needs more details, like doodads, an good terrain must have lots of details!

About quests... Let's go, more one!

Your rival's mother asked you to deliver this parcel to him. Find your rival and deliver's the parcel to him.

Quest: Where's my thing?

Objective: Delivers Rival's mother parcel to <insert weird name here>. He's located in <Second town>.

Another one:

After you got the first badge, the <insert important building name here> suffered an explosion. Discover what happened.

Quest: The Explosion Commotion!

Objective: Travel to the <building> and discover what happened (either by asking people, encountering the evil team, whatever....

Here is.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

lol im sorry yixxx, but it luks kinda bad.

How about when you give me the map when your done with your systems, and ill terrrain the villages, so that they look all nice and good luking.

 

[HFR]

It's an good idea.

 

[13LUR]

hey guys,

Im not sure if you're interested but I made pokemon map awhile back and you're all welcome to all the resources I collected for it (Icons, the map itself etc...) to pluck from.

Ill just zip up some stuff and drop it here.

 

[HFR]

Oh my God, It's 13Lur here!!!!!!! The creator of Pokemon Legends! You're welcome to help!

 

[thedeathunterxx]

o shit

its 13LUR , lmao
he came out of no where lol. he made the best pokemon map yet >.>

and hes a well respected terrainer

 

[HFR]

We're waiting for the files!

 

[Yixx]

Lol, thanks TDHX, for being honest! =P,, i think i just totaly need to let Terraining go >.<

Those quests are nice! =D,, keep it up, but remember, we cant let every building blow up or let every trainer die or fall ill xD

OMG! 13LUR: Nice! We can use that! Also, the icons from the map you gave me, HFR, like the icons of the elements are nice! =D,, although i think it doesnt have one for steel and dark,, but maybe you or Darkxs can make one,,

When can you send us the map 13LUR? Cause we can use some of it,, =D

 

[HFR]

Now I have things to do (games to play, he he...) But I'll give one more quest:

Arriving at the city with the second gym, you found an trainer school, there, some kids challenged you to an pokemon battle, and you accepted.

Quest: Die, N00b!

Objective: Defeat all the kids in sequence.

Ok, here is.

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Maybe, if i can come with a little idea on how you get your pokemon?

Ok, the Proffesor is not in his lab. When you go out in the tall grass, a wild Nidoran(male) attacks you!

But dont worry, cause some unknown dude sends out a Magnemite, and owns that Nidoran.

You discover, that its the proffesor who used that Magnemite.
and he says:
"<name>, it's too dangerous to go out in the tall grass without a Pokemon! You should never do it! Oh, looks like that Nidoran's girlfriend ain't so happy. Here, take this, let me see if you can handle it!"

Now you choose what pokemon the prof. throws to you. An then you battle this Nidoran(female).

When you win, you follow him back to the lab.
"That was very good fighting out there, <name>. You sure have skills. You know what? i give you that <Name of pokemon you choosed>!"

(You get the pokemon)

<Hm, you need a pokedex too, but i don't have one here. You know? go see my grand<gender of your rival>, He/she have one! He/she is at route <somewhere in the start area>"

And so you get a quest, to find your rival, and get you pokedex.

But, thats it for now, i let HFR come with the quests, just a thought i had

 

[HFR]

Nice (cliche) idea!

Wow, I amassed an army of knights to smash that smelling Horde. I'm in a break now, so, here's one more quest:

After you got your pokedex, the professor Spruce asked you to gather information of some pokemons. Now, you'll have to find them.

Quest: 10 pokemons and a strange device.

Objective: Gather information of at least 10 pokemon. You'll have to fight with 10 different pokemons, them, return to Spruce's lab to receive your prize (some bananas, he he...)

By the way, I found this tutorial that can help you with somethings.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

well what about team rocket ? that must create alot of quests....

lol how are we going to create the Siplh co building...it would be fun to make it ...=D

it would be a confusing maze of 15 floors. ( i luv siplh co )

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Oh yea, Siplh co. was awesome. Hell yea it should be made

though it's easy when you know it.

Upperleft, Lowerright, Upperleft, Lowerleft, Lowerright, Upperright - and youre at your rival

yes, i have nerded it too much >.<

And yes, there should be a heck of Team Rocket quests.

and we also need a main quest line!

 

[HFR]

I think we gonna have an evil team, but not Team Rocket. They're much dumbs xD

 

[Yixx]

Main quest line: You start your days as a trainer, you have great fun with your new Pkmn, and as you go you meet alot of fun trainers too,, they seem really nice, and they have started their own crew! You want to join them, and you do so,,
But as things go, you get a strange feeling about this crew, when you try to tell them you are out, they all start to become very hostile, and follow you,,
You can choose: Stay with them, or keep your dignity and sense of justice by leaving the gang,,

@ TDHX, remember, this isnt Red/Blue/Tellow, we will have a big building, but not Silph Co,, we will think of something else! =P

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Not all of them.... James is.... jessy is no.... Giovanni is not!


Hmm, yixx, its a start xD

 

[HFR]

I sense something... Elusive in your story...
WHO'S TRYING TO LEAVE THE TEAM??? HE'll BE SHOT!!

Anyway, right, the building should be named Banana's Co.

Guess what? Another MWAHAAHAHAHA... emmm.. Quest:

After the workers got sick, the Mayor asked you to clean the sewers (Slaveness). Now you have to clean it! Or else...

Quest: The Culling

Objective: Go to the sewer and defeat all the pokemons there (Weezing, Koffing, Muk, Grimmer, etc... After this, the Mayor will award you with a free haircut!

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Haha, man, i think he should give you some kind of prototype on a new ball or so

i mean... haircut.. you just cleaned the whole sever!

 

[varsaigen]

main quest chain: Gotta Catch em' All! XD

Yeah, Jesse and James were stupid. >_> why would they spend 6+ years getting a pikachu when they could catch their own and train it? Ash's pikachu is too loyal and would die before submitting to Team Rocket, so, they should get their own. :/ But ya, the higher up the corperate ladder you get in Team Rocket, the smarter and more dangerous they become :/ But it's sad when they all use the same poke'mon D:

 

[HFR]

Another quest TO KIL ...ehh... to implemet the map...

Now it's the time! You and other trainers will invade the <insert evil team name here> base to free all the pokemon.

Quest: For the Horde!

Objective: Invade the evil team base and free the pokemons!

Of course, you make this quest after you got 2-3 badges, so, the attack will be a Epic Fail. After you and your "friends' have freed almost all the pokemons, the leader appears and defeats all your partners and their pokemons. Them, he escapes, carrying the pokemons with him and his grunts.

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

No, he defeats all of the friends pokemons, one on one, but when he fights you, he loose!

So he flees without the pokemons. But it was only a small headquater, where they only had a small part of their pokemons

We need to give the players some good feeling

 

[HFR]

Ok, I liked your way. Just an small headquarters, and he lose to your Caterpie!

 

[Yixx]

xD lol, if you lose, you will have to do it over and over again, untill you win! =D

 

[HFR]

I was thinking of making some quests as minigames, like:

After all your hard work, the evil team apperas and stole all your badges! Now you command an army of freed pokemons, and try to defeat the enemies and take your badges back!

Quest: LEEEEROOYYY JEEENKIIINS!!!!

Objective: Kill the evil team leader, and retrieve your beloved badges!

Now is the fun part. To recover your badges, your friends constructed an base. And the evil team too! Now, the game will act as an AoS, with "happy" and "cool" pokemon spawning at your side and the poisounus and dark pokemon spawning at the enemies side. Controlling you trainer, you have Hack'n'Slash thought the evil pokemons and destroy their main Base. When it's done, you receive your badges!
Note: If your allies base is destroyed, Game Over!

Another thing: Don't be scared of killing innocent pokemons, the evil ones are clones and your allies are robots!

Somebody Help Me!! I have 666 posts!
MWAHAHAHA!!! What was that??
AAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

It's Super Effective!

/me dies

 

[Lord_of_sausage]

Well, i think it should be a hidden bonus quest, were you control all of the freed pokemons AT ONCE! and have something like a 8vs8 pokemon duel vs the evil team.

now that would be fun

but it should be a hidden quest. Like if you find a secret object in the headquaters, before facing the leader.

Guys: it's late, im going to bed. Cya tommorow.

 

[HFR]

Well, maybe we can make like that, but still in AoS mode!

And I freed from my course!

HFR uses Earthquake!
It's Super Effective!
Diabolic Number is dead

 

[13LUR]

the zip!

btw, reading this thread is like drinking from a fire hose.

Also, its worth noting that you can pull off a lot of good "custom model" effects by simply attaching doodads to units through the tornado aura ability. Its how I put pipes on blastoise and a flower on venusaur, which are really just the giant turtle model and the kodo beast with a custom ability that only attaches doodads.

 

[En_Fuego]

13lur is turning out to be quite a helpful person. Also, mind if I ask why you guys treat him like a god? Pokemon Legends is a good map, but it is full of bugs, he never found time to finish it, and it is hardly ever hosted.

 

[13LUR]

13lur is turning out to be quite a helpful person. Also, mind if I ask why you guys treat him like a god? Pokemon Legends is a good map, but it is full of bugs, he never found time to finish it, and it is hardly ever hosted.

Yeah, One of the significant problems in the dev of PL was that about halfway through the map I decided to switch from GUI to entirely JASS and never finished the transition. Things got sloppy after that and I lost interest (it wasn't because of lack of time).

If I were to do it over again (hey you never know, maybe i'll get motivated) I think I would start by deleting all the triggers and building everything in JASS from the get go. The problem was that I wasn't a programmer when I started it (I had only started with languages a year before at college) and then quickly realized that clean, efficient JASS was the only way to do it.

I haven't seen what the codebase of your guys' map looks like but it really is the core of your map. You can not overestimate or over-allocate time and work there because there really is no substitute for getting the foundation right.

In regards to it not being hosted that often, believe it or not but I actually didn't like playing my own map! I found it slow and mundane, like WoW. I think its key to recognize that the best source replayability lies in PvP and that it is important to design for PvP to be a core part (And thus flushed out as early as possible) of the map, even though its an RPG. So when I read that you are planning on separating the PvP element into a different map, this worries me.

 

[thedeathunterxx]

lol i respect him because he does excellent terrain....

if you can do great terrain, you already have my respect.

just go to the legendary terrain thread, he has a legndary EPIC epic picture up there ( i think its the first one.... with a sunset across water, and trees in the foreground and brown grass )

thats why i think he is a god....because of that.

 

[13LUR]

your terrain is pretty baller imo. +rep

specifically the epic huge endless world one

 

[thedeathunterxx]

lmao and according to his terrain showcase you get blazed while making terrain lol

thats wats up ! i should make a terrain when im zooted and see what happens lmao

 

[13LUR]

anyways, I'm trying to be more active in wc3 mod community now. So if you got anything rough you want designed, designed you want coded, coded you want reviewed, or need any Icons/
Skins/Terrain and possibly even Models (Now that I've taken a formal computer graphics class!) let me know.

(Btw I prefer coding work to art related work)

 

[HFR]

Wow, Yixx must see this pack! And, man, you're an great terrainer, I loved yor beach in PL! Also, it can be full of bugs, but it's still one of the best pokemon maps here. I'm glad taht you're helping us!

Also, anyone wants more Quests?

During your quest for the badges, you have to cross an huge cave inside Mount <insert epic name here>. Once there, an Hiker asked you do do something for him.

Quest: Rock'n'Roll

Objective: Capture an Geodude and deliver it to the Hiker. After this, he'll award you with a da da daa dadada daaaa...
Rare Candy

Another one for your question needs!

 

[Wazzz]

13LUR, good to see you

I remember the first time I played your Pokemon map, I loved it (Despite the obvious bugs and such )

Quests, huh? Lemme think...

Perhaps in the second city (that is, the place where the second leader is), there's Team Miscellaneous (NOT Rocket, I hate Rocket as they are easy to beat and boring at the same time D trying to, uh... steal unborn babies (or people's Pokemon). With the ppl's Pokemon, they hope to tighten their grip on the city (ooh!!). The Gym should be closed until you have dealt with Team Unknown, and you should meet with the Leader who tells you what is going on and what must be done. Then, after defeating them, he/she comes to talk to you, saying how good what you did is, how they would be honoured to fight with you and maybe/maybe not take you out to dinner

 

[HFR]

Wazzz, Quest Giver is my area, so I'll have to retire you... xD

You can give new quests anytime, as Yixx wants A LOT of quests. And I can't handle only by myself...