Pokémans thread

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Nobody mentioned Furret yet for ferret?

Ferrets only got indirectly involved, the main subject of the argument was Otters

 

[Pyritie]

Nobody mentioned Furret yet for ferret?

Oh right lol >__>

 

[TheDivineBoss]

<__< I'm surprised Godwin's Law didn't come to pass yet here.

And on-topic:

Py, go yiff it >__>

 

[supertoinkz]

In my thoughts

Buizel : Beaver
Linoone : Raccoon
Furret : Ferret

sooooo

The new water starter should be an Otter.

Damn, too much fur -_-

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Buizel : Beaver

Buizel looks nothing like a beaver.

You sure your not getting Buizel mixed up with the evolution of Bidoof?

 

[D a w n]

Buizel is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel
Linoone is a cross of a badger, a weasel/ferret and a racoon
oh and we also got Sneasel which fits into this group of pkmns.

Edit: we srsly need more o them. The creators of pkmn should also consider to create a power rangers spin-off with them. They could fight against the evil mouse organisation and its minions.

 

[supertoinkz]

oh, I forgot that one.

So new water starter can be a beaver or an otter eh

 

[Dragonite The 1337]

New Water Starter is one fugly clown Otter. Betcha it'll be Water/Ice.

 

[Duruka]

Does anyone here play the Pokemon TCG?

 

[Billy the Cat]

Does anyone here play the Pokemon TCG?

Used to a long time ago, but you can't play it on your own so it depends on what others play.

 

[Pyritie]

Sold almost all of my cards for it a while ago. Just hanging on to my rare-ish ones in case they're worth something one day.

 

[redscores]

Actually, pokemon cards are worth MUCH if you have the right ones, for example shiny charizard, shiny mew and such .

Shiny charizard sells for MUCH, and if you have a first edition charizard (the REALLY old one), it sells for about 500 Dollar.

 

[Pyritie]

I have a shiny 1st edition machamp I think

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

I have a bunch from the first series but I stopped playing a while ago - I tried to sell them a while ago but the store wouldn't take them.

 

[Billy the Cat]

Shiny charizard sells for MUCH, and if you have a first edition charizard (the REALLY old one), it sells for about 500 Dollar.

How much is much? I got that shiny Charizard.

Also I got the Charizard from the first set, but not first edition.

 

[Duruka]

I used to have that Charizard, but I lost it...

I have a shiny 1st edition machamp I think

I have that one too.

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Went through all my cards, here's the rare ones I have
-Gengar - edition 1 - forgot the name but the series symbol is a fossil
-Haunter - same as above
-3 Kangaskhans - Series symbol is a flower
-Same as above but Holographic
-Clefairy - first series - holographic
-Clefable - edition 1 - Flower symbol
-Chansey - first series - holographic
-2 venomoths - edition 1 - flower symbol
-Mr. Mime - holographic - flower symbol
-Magneton - first series - holographic
-Joltean - flower symbol
-Clefairy Doll - first series
-Dark Gyarados - R symbol
-Ditto - edition 1 - Fossil symbol
-Snorlax - holographic - flower symbol
-Machamp - edition 1 - first series - holographic

I have a Mewtwo card but its promotional so its probably worth nothing - I also have the same thing with Mew cards but I have like 8 of them.

 

[D a w n]

this is my holographic list:
Dark Arbok - Team Rocket sign
Bellossom - Star sign
Lt. Surge's Fearow (some japanese card)
Lugia - Star sign
Pidgeot - Flower sign
Wigglytuff - Flower sign
Chansey - no sign

But not a single one of them is 1st edition :/

Edit: oh and I also had this card long time ago, but the front of this card was only a transparency. The result was that I had 2 parts of it at the end. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ancient_Mew_%282nd_Movie_promo%29
Edit2: wtf i this?? D: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ooyama's_Pikachu_(Vending_S3)

 

[Duruka]

I have lots of holographics, but some of my more rare ones are:
-Machamp (1st edition)
-A holographic Dark Tyranitar (not sure if its that rare, but I've never seen anyone with it)
-Holographic Japanese Vaporeon
-Promo Mew
-Promo Pikachu
-Promo Mewtwo

I have some more rare ones, but I can't think of them right now.

 

[redscores]

Went through all my cards, here's the rare ones I have
-Gengar - edition 1 - forgot the name but the series symbol is a fossil
-Haunter - same as above
-3 Kangaskhans - Series symbol is a flower
-Same as above but Holographic
-Clefairy - first series - holographic
-Clefable - edition 1 - Flower symbol
-Chansey - first series - holographic
-2 venomoths - edition 1 - flower symbol
-Mr. Mime - holographic - flower symbol
-Magneton - first series - holographic
-Joltean - flower symbol
-Clefairy Doll - first series
-Dark Gyarados - R symbol
-Ditto - edition 1 - Fossil symbol
-Snorlax - holographic - flower symbol
-Machamp - edition 1 - first series - holographic

I have a Mewtwo card but its promotional so its probably worth nothing - I also have the same thing with Mew cards but I have like 8 of them.

That mewtwo card which you have is one of the rarest cards in the whole pokemon card game ;D....

http://www.pokemontradingcards.net/uprices.html here you can look, theres a charizard, but thats not first edition, so don't let it trick you, first edition increases the price by 20x .

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

That mewtwo card which you have is one of the rarest cards in the whole pokemon card game ;D....

It says Promo right on the card, doesn't that mean its worth little to nothing?

 

[Billy the Cat]

It says Promo right on the card, doesn't that mean its worth little to nothing?

Depends on the promo

Edit: Eh Gawd... O.O
The promo I linked to proves it... xD

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

This is the one I have - I believe it came with the Pokemon 2000 movie

I have like 8 of these

 

[Pyritie]

This is the one I have - I believe it came with the Pokemon 2000 movie

I have a dragonite one of those

 

[Duruka]

I have one of each of those...the Mew and Mewtwo.

 

[YourNameHere]

This is the shit D:

 

[Dragonite The 1337]

Hey, my bro has that Mewtwo. He was into the whole Pokemon craze in Red and Blue, he collected almost every single card from then. Ahh, nostalgia.

 

[BlackArmsShadow]

The new starters look dumb. I mean, A PIG? Seriously?

 

[BlackArmsShadow]

Dark Charizard wasn't as rare as the Foil Charizard, right?

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

Well 1, double post

2: The starters look ok in my opinion, well at least the Grass and Fire. The water thing is a bit fugly

 

[The World Is Flat]

Agreed.

2. DO NOT DOUBLE POST.

 

[Billy the Cat]

The new starters look dumb. I mean, A PIG? Seriously?

I think it's cute

 

[The World Is Flat]

They are all cute. but imo the grass one is to "i am too 1337!"

 

[Pyritie]

hngg, suddenly I discover rhyperior and having trouble deciding between it and aggron

EDIT: but at this point I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be using infernape instead of blaziken

 

[WherewolfTherewolf]

hngg, suddenly I discover rhyperior and having trouble deciding between it and aggron

Go Aggron, he looks cooler (on top of being able to get the most out of his attacks by not having any recoil)

 

[Pyritie]

Rhyperior has a lot more HP though

EDIT: okay so this is my team so far:

lanturn - special wall, type coverage
togekiss - that thing that's a pain in the ass to take out
infernape - sweeper
then either rhyperior or aggron

then what? AGH I AM SO INDECISIVE

blissey as the team healer?
umbeon for yawn + mean look + baton pass? (possibly wish too?)
azelf for utility/lead?
maybe latias for an alt sweeper if I also have heatran? D:

D: D: D:

EDIT 2: Just remember if you're suggesting stuff that I don't do any of this tier stuff. I just want a good team that I can use to battle random people on the internet. You know, the kind of people who think black charizard is the best thing ever.

 

[The World Is Flat]

Aggrons good with headsmash/sub/foucs. blissys are bitches to deal with but dooable. I use a secial swamp lead. i've also got a yanmega and a flygon. fygon is ground/dragon with leviate and hes a btich with earthquake.

 

[supertoinkz]

goddamn typos D:

 

[dead-man-walking]

Rhyperior has a lot more HP though

EDIT: okay so this is my team so far:

lanturn - special wall, type coverage
togekiss - that thing that's a pain in the ass to take out
infernape - sweeper
then either rhyperior or aggron

then what? AGH I AM SO INDECISIVE

blissey as the team healer?
umbeon for yawn + mean look + baton pass? (possibly wish too?)
azelf for utility/lead?
maybe latias for an alt sweeper if I also have heatran? D:

D: D: D:

EDIT 2: Just remember if you're suggesting stuff that I don't do any of this tier stuff. I just want a good team that I can use to battle random people on the internet. You know, the kind of people who think black charizard is the best thing ever.

Red Gyarados = Overrated > Black Charizard = Overrated so much

Heatran with Grip Claw and Magma Storm is OK against random peeps over internet who thought that Black Charizards are BEST THING EVER. Especially if it has Rock Slide.

 

[Pyritie]

okay what about this:

azelf for lead (though I'll probably remove taunt since I doubt many other people will think of using entry hazards)
togekiss
lanturn with heal bell
infernape nasty plot sweeper
umbreon (wish, protect, mean look, baton pass)
something physical, so probably aggron

I like lanturn and togekiss because I've found that they make a very nice team together

 

[YourNameHere]

Dark Charizard wasn't as rare as the Foil Charizard, right?

No idea, but I liked it pretty much back then.

 

[Pyritie]

	lanturn	?	leftovers	still working out a moveset for this	?
	togekiss	calm	leftovers	air slash, aura sphere, roost, thunder wave	252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SpD
	infernape	naive	life orb	fire blast, grass knot, nasty plot, close combat	64 Atk, 252 SpA, 192 Spe
	umbreon	sassy	leftovers	curse, payback, protect, wish	252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SpD
	metagross	adamant	life orb	meteor mash, agility, earthquake, ice punch	112 HP, 252 Atk, 12 Def, 132 Spe
	swampert	relaxed	leftovers	stealth rock, earthquake, ice beam, roar	252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def

 

[Dragonite The 1337]

Damn you and your Blissey Neglect! D: Wait, why not give Umbreon Toxic somewhere so he can toxicstall? Or are you going with a Block/healwall?

 

[Pyritie]

I'd give toxic to umbreon but having protect lets him easily selfheal

either that or I'd give him payback as it's a good stab move

 

[Dragonite The 1337]

Mm, true... WAIT A SEC, BUT BLACK CHARIZARD IS THE BESHT THING EVARZ! Espeshully with teh Rawk Slied. Anyways, fetishes/obsessions aside, *Begs for a rep*-- No, wait, I was gonna say something... Oh yes, for Lanturn, is he going Offensive/Statheal, or being a Support with a bit of offense? For Offensive/Status Healer, I suggest SAtk 126, Speed 126, SDef 252, and throw 4 EVs anywhere you want. For Support, go SDef 252, Def 252, HP 4(?) This is just a suggestion, I izn't a pro. Also, give Togekiss a King's Rock, maybe give Aggron a Focus Band or something, Infernape needs a berry of choice, (Sitrus Berry heals you back up, Salac Berry works to speed you up, and at the same time, Blaze will activate, and Lum Berry will heal off any status effect.) same goes for Lanturn and Umbreon. Azelf could use a... Meh, I don't know, the berries mentioned above?

 

[Wazzz]

I suggest replacing Focus Blast on the Inernape with Grass Knot for the following reasons:
-Grass Knot rapes the common Water switch-ins, and as you're bringing this out in the late game, you will probably know if they have one or not.
-Focus Blast is powerful, but highly inacurrate. Using this technique will require a lot of luck on the most part.
-Vacuum Wave is better than Focus Blast for dealing a last bit of damage to something that is going to kill your sweep with either a high priority move or just by being faster.

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I'm glad to see this obviously hasn't worked. Rep isn't the most important thing on hive, you know. And even if you think it is, it should be earnt, not just passed around like a common whore.

 

[Pyritie]

Oh yes, for Lanturn, is he going Offensive/Statheal, or being a Support with a bit of offense?

Special tank, mostly. Also somewhat of an attacker for type coverage. He makes a good pair with the togekiss

Also, give Togekiss a King's Rock, maybe give Aggron a Focus Band or something

Things that get focus bands are things that tend to get killed quickly. In this case it'd be the azelf since if it gets shot to 1hp then it can just asplode

Infernape needs a berry of choice, (Sitrus Berry heals you back up, Salac Berry works to speed you up, and at the same time, Blaze will activate, and Lum Berry will heal off any status effect.) same goes for Lanturn and Umbreon. Azelf could use a... Meh, I don't know, the berries mentioned above?

Leftovers? Life orb? etc. Those are better items.
Sitrus berries are for NPCs ;P

I suggest replacing Focus Blast on the Inernape with Grass Knot for the following reasons:
-Grass Knot rapes the common Water switch-ins, and as you're bringing this out in the late game, you will probably know if they have one or not.

True, plus I have no other grass moves at all

-Focus Blast is powerful, but highly inacurrate. Using this technique will require a lot of luck on the most part.
-Vacuum Wave is better than Focus Blast for dealing a last bit of damage to something that is going to kill your sweep with either a high priority move or just by being faster.

Okie doke! Anything else or does it look mostly okay?

Also I ended up giving the lanturn 76 HP / 40 Def / 140 SpA / 252 SpD EVs. Gave him a bit more HP since these are his IVs: 1 HP (D / 16 Atk / 27 Def / 22 SpA / 26 SpD / 27 Spe



EDIT: New avatar trend: CLOSELY CROPPED PRONS

 

[Wazzz]

Ahk, I'll take a quick look at your other choices...

Togekiss is, without a doubt, one of the most annoying pokemon to deal with if it's faster than you. That is why I'm thinking on alternative option for you could be to make him a Choice Scarfer. With Serene Grace, the flinch hax could be very irritating.
But here lies the problem - King's Rock is an equally great choice. So I'm thinking I quite like the set you have, but what I'm suggesting is also a viable option if you want something different for your Togekiss.

Your Azelf is pretty standard, although I didn't know it could learn Toxic
I generally don't like Azelf as a lead (purely because I can absolutely f*** it up with my lead), but I think your moveset choice on it is pretty good (standard for an Azelf lead, but will also screw a lot of teams over with an incredibly fast Toxic).

Your Umbreon set doesn't seem to be too bad at all imo, and the Mean Look pass could be of a great asset to your team. For example, if you Mean Looked a Pokemon that was a Toxic Blissey or something equally pathetic in the following circumstance, you could Mean Look pass to your Aggron. Then you'd be able to spam the Rock Polishes (the Blissey would probably have Seismic Toss, but Aggron should be able to take enough of those to get the speed boosts off) and then just f*** 'em up with Head Smash.

Aggron is an okay choice, I do appreciate the set you've given him, but I must warn you that even though his Defense is great, his 4x weakness to Fighting and Ground makes him get raped by even physical Ground and Fighting attacks, so be aware of this when you want to try and set a sweep up with him. Easy way to counter this is to make sure that your opponent doesn't have any advantages on Aggron before you even show him to them.

Lanturn seems fine to me, although I don't like it as a Pokemon personally, it's still a good choice to have.

Now, here's an optional idea. A Tricker could be of a great asset to your party. That way, you would be able to Trick utility pokemon like Blissey and crap, ultimately screwing around with your opponents strategy.

 

[Pyritie]

King's rock only gives an extra +4% flinch chance, which isn't really anything.

AFAIK almost anything can learn toxic

Yeah that's the main problem with the aggron. Guess that's what his defense is for but even then yeah, he's a late game player once the threats have been taken out

Who would have the trick though?

 

[Wazzz]

I know that Azelf learns Trick, but I wouldn't reccomend it on him. When I say a Tricker, though, I mean a completely different pokemon to what you have atm. Which is why it's just an alternative option
Latias is a good Tricker, tho. Other Trickers include Jirachi, Gengar, Mismagius, Spiritomb, etc. etc. etc. (there's a LOT of Trickers. And don't forget about those that learn Switcheroo [like Lopunny + Klutz can drop off the Flame Orb or Toxic Orb or even the Iron Ball])