Orbit 1.60

[Moderator]

12:40, 8th Apr 2014
Orcnet: very impressive game and with a pinch of voice acting, approve as recommended.

 

[PlankingWolf]

Pretty awesome. It even has a small amount of voice acting. I'm gonna play this.
Another awesome risk map that's more unique and it's Sci-Fi!

 

[Zhall]

Pretty awesome. It even has a small amount of voice acting. I'm gonna play this.
Another awesome risk map that's more unique and it's Sci-Fi!

Haha yep thats me, with a Voxal voice mod.

Trying to set-up a hosting bot, but I cant get Ghost to generate a .cfg for the map..

EDIT: Lol, it helped to not open it in NOTEPAD XD

Now it's hosting, but there's no local copy for people to download?... so its not.. working.. lol

 

[Silverfox]

All I can say is, a truly epic map. Single-player can be a little dull, since the AI is lame, but still satisfying if you have no one to play with. Cannot judge for multiplayer, but will play it with my brother soon. A strategy map with dice system is new (at least to me), found no bugs and the map is very interesting to play!

 

[Rheiko]

3 video but all of them are the same >.>

anyway, this looks pretty awesome.. and i love that voice acting.. i'll try it when i have a chance :3

 

[Zhall]

3 video but all of them are the same >.>

anyway, this looks pretty awesome.. and i love that voice acting.. i'll try it when i have a chance :3

Ya sorry about that... It's [WIP]

I was going to make them, but I was also trying to setup a hosting bot.

EDIT: Just one last video to make, it's hard to find people to play with these days...

Got a bot hosting on West, either going to move it to East or do both.

EDIT: Moved it to East, west is so dead.

 

[Legal_Ease]

Why no space UI? Looks super cool anyway.

 

[Fingolfin]

I really enjoyed this map, all systems are fluent, and i like the way the maps are procedurally generated. Only thing i reacted on was that sometimes solar systems get entangled with eachother in a very awkward way. Really sweet to see someone using my planet models aswell, if you want to add more space doodads i just recently uploaded an asteroid pack and a lightweight quasar/black hole model which you can find on my resource page.

If you want to expand on the risk concept i have some ideas: why not add structural upgrades to the planets? For instance, you can have an "orbital cannon" upgrade which increases your defensive roll by +1, or a troop training facility that increases your reinforcement gain by +2. Perhaps an industrial upgrade which increases your gold income? These upgrades would cost, but also be lost once the planet is taken. They would show up visually as a unit orbiting the planet.

Finally, if you should be interrested, i actually made a hyperrealistic planetarium simulator, which basically simulates the impact of gravity between bodies in a solar system, using newtonian physics. The cool part is that if you were to, say, shoot an asteroid through a solar system, the gravitational pull from the different bodies would either cause it to be snatched up as a satellite around a planet, or get stuck in orbit around the sun. Planets can also snatch moons from eachother, should they stroke pass eachother very closely. I am not sure if real-time simulation has any advantages in your map over pre-determined orbits, but it could always be cool to check out.

 

[Orcnet]

Map approved.

 

[Wazzz]

your map description seems to describe the machines as the dominion while the dominion describes the dominion as the dominion

judging from your videos, this seems like a VERY indepth map, great job :]

 

[Zhall]

ah yes, I have fixed that.

Christened in the very craddle of humanity, the machines rose from 01 to intergalactic power.

 

[Fingolfin]

I like this version better but:

*Your orbit system is still very awkward. Stars spawn very close to eachother and solar systems become entangled.

*Once the selection texttag became bugged for me. The green tag would get stuck to a single planet and not update when i selected others. The game still registered the selection though, but it was annoying not to have the visual feedback.

*You should not have borderless (passive) icons for upgrades or abilities which are actively used.

*The game leaks something tremendously. I got a black screen for over 3 minutes when closing the game which is an indication that it needs extensive memory cleanup.

*I never really understood how waves work... what are the advantages of using multiple waves? Don't you get better roll results if you have lots of units in each wave instead? Perhaps you should add this to the tutorial.

 

[Zhall]

I like this version better but:

*Your orbit system is still very awkward. Stars spawn very close to eachother and solar systems become entangled.

*Once the selection texttag became bugged for me. The green tag would get stuck to a single planet and not update when i selected others. The game still registered the selection though, but it was annoying not to have the visual feedback.

*You should not have borderless (passive) icons for upgrades or abilities which are actively used.

*The game leaks something tremendously. I got a black screen for over 3 minutes when closing the game which is an indication that it needs extensive memory cleanup.

*I never really understood how waves work... what are the advantages of using multiple waves? Don't you get better roll results if you have lots of units in each wave instead? Perhaps you should add this to the tutorial.

You pretty much just summed up the known bugs list in a single post XD

*The system spawning is probably too random, making it more uniform would have been in the best interest.

*That selection issue has plagued me forever, it literally doesn't show up during certain games, and does in others...

*I'm not quite sure which abilities you are referring to for the passive icons, but I do know what you mean.

*I have done a few things to fix that black screen issue, apparently removing the 100,000 leaks over an hour period did not seem to help? Thanks for the garbage collector blizzard.

*Waves are sent so that if the first ship fails, the next ship takes a swing, and so on. This feature is most likely not going to make it to the sc2 port.



As much as I would like to fix blizzards garbage collection, I'd much rather prefer to use Sc2's built in system. Production on this mod will be on ice as the Sc2 one shapes up, as well as... a table top.. version.. which I am also working on.

It's a shame not to fix it, but its more of a headache than I'm ready to endure at this time.

 

[cleavinghammer]

The game only froze after I quit when I played it.

The leaderboard should have the limit of available fleets on it along with the enroute ones.

I would suggest making system add-ons automatic rather than planet by planet (as in, tell the F1 menu to build a factory, it builds one in the nearest system or tells you all systems are full).

Is there a way to put planetary fleets back into reserve?

Other than that, very cool map, easy enough to understand and the multiple attack is a good timesaver.

 

[Zhall]

Is there a way to put planetary fleets back into reserve?

Yes actually, send an attack wave to a planet and select the ships that are moving. Order them to stop; they will be returned to your reserve.

I agree that it should mention the fleet total capacity on the leader board.

If I ever get around to 1.6 I'll definitely add it.

 

[CodeBlack]

I played your map 1v1 with a friend and it was a damn lot of fun
really enjoyed it..
im not sure if it is already there but...
-where can i see my fleets in reserve?
-can i team up with other players?

i also didnt get what some of the upgrades where good for...im sure they did something but i didnt get what ^^
...to be fair: i played only one round

 

[Zhall]

I played your map 1v1 with a friend and it was a damn lot of fun
really enjoyed it..
im not sure if it is already there but...
-where can i see my fleets in reserve?
-can i team up with other players?

i also didnt get what some of the upgrades where good for...im sure they did something but i didnt get what ^^
...to be fair: i played only one round

-Fleet reserve is on the leader board
-There are Teams of 2 and Teams of 4 options during map generation

 

[Fingolfin]

You pretty much just summed up the known bugs list in a single post XD

*The system spawning is probably too random, making it more uniform would have been in the best interest.

*That selection issue has plagued me forever, it literally doesn't show up during certain games, and does in others...

*I'm not quite sure which abilities you are referring to for the passive icons, but I do know what you mean.

*I have done a few things to fix that black screen issue, apparently removing the 100,000 leaks over an hour period did not seem to help? Thanks for the garbage collector blizzard.

*Waves are sent so that if the first ship fails, the next ship takes a swing, and so on. This feature is most likely not going to make it to the sc2 port.



As much as I would like to fix blizzards garbage collection, I'd much rather prefer to use Sc2's built in system. Production on this mod will be on ice as the Sc2 one shapes up, as well as... a table top.. version.. which I am also working on.

It's a shame not to fix it, but its more of a headache than I'm ready to endure at this time.

I take it you are using GUI... a few tips:

• Run the map with nhocklanhox6's memory leak checker. It is useful to trace down what specific types of leaks you are dealing with (my guess is location leaks). Remember to remove it once you are done checking since it slows down your code.
  
  
• Whenever you use "random location in rect", you will leak a location unless you catch and remove it. The random item spawns are just about rare enough to cause leaks of the mild proportion we are seing right now. Generally, anything that returns a location will leak (hell, even the "world bounds" option leaks a rect since it returns a new rect everytime!!)
  
  
• I take it you know this, but the "point with offset" action leaks two locations. Once for the input location, and once for the output. I doubt you've missed this though since your map is running fine.
  
  
• All actions of type "pick units in group" will leak a group. You need to do "set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true" in a custom script line before you run these actions.